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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Jun 12, 2023
  • #316
Deleted member 5849 said:
I tell you what, I wish there was the same desire to just pay Gyokeres what he wants...
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The reason there isn't is because he would undoubtedly want way over the rumoured figure Hamer is asking, if he could be tempted to sign a new contract at all. Also Hamer has more of an all round effect on the team - he creates chances, he scores goals, he can tackle and do defensive work. Gyok you know 90% of what he will offer is strength to hold the ball up and then trying to drive towards goal from the left hand side. Nothing wrong with that, and he does it well, but it does become a little one dimensional.

There's not many saying pay Hamer what he wants. There's quite a few saying £20k pw is acceptable given his ability. I doubt many would go as high as £25k - I'd certainly be a bit wary getting up to those sort of figures.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jun 12, 2023
  • #317
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
There's not many saying pay Hamer what he wants. There's quite a few saying £20k pw is acceptable given his ability. I doubt many would go as high as £25k - I'd certainly be a bit wary getting up to those sort of figures.
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£25k from £20k is a smaller %age increase than £20k from £15k.

I mean, it's an utter nonsense deciding £20k is OK but £25k isn't, that's just ludicrous guesswork and arbitrary decision making.
 

Grendel

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  • Jun 12, 2023
  • #318
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
The reason there isn't is because he would undoubtedly want way over the rumoured figure Hamer is asking. Also Hamer has more of an all round effect on the team - he creates chances, he scores goals, he can tackle and do defensive work. Gyok you know 90% of what he will offer is strength to hold the ball up and then trying to drive towards goal from the left hand side. Nothing wrong with that, and he does it well, but it does become a little one dimensional.

There's not many saying pay Hamer what he wants. There's quite a few saying £20k pw is acceptable given his ability. I doubt many would go as high as £25k - I'd certainly be a bit wary getting up to those sort of figures.
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I guess that explains why we are talking a record transfer fee for one dimensional Gyokeres and no mention for hamer

He’s the least one dimensional striker I’ve seen at the club for the 50 years I’ve watched them
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jun 12, 2023
  • #319
Grendel said:
I guess that explains why we are talking a record transfer fee for one dimensional Gyokeres and no mention for hamer

He’s the least one dimensional striker I’ve seen at the club for the 50 years I’ve watched them
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I hadn't even read that bit(!) My word.

But hey, the replacement'll be just like Charlie Wakefield!
 
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ccfcchris

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  • Jun 12, 2023
  • #320
I think Hamer going would be a far bigger loss than Gyokeres. Resigned to losing both but hope MR can continue his magic in the transfer market.
 
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Jun 12, 2023
  • #321
Deleted member 9744 said:
Where's the word lunacy come from? I just think it's unlikely. Not every opinion has to be so extreme.

And no. In fact I was one who was always saying Walsh had no record of performing in the Championship and his injuries would have made him a very risky signing.
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I said it here, though it was a bit hyperbole.
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
Or Hamer could go on to have an injury free season while every single one of the players we bring in gets injured? Why sign anyone because there's a risk they might get injured or just not do well.

And the chance of us spreading out the Hamer cash and bringing in someone of even close to a similar level is extremely small. To think we'd get two is optimism bordering on lunacy.
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Grendel

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  • Jun 12, 2023
  • #322
If hamer dealt in Kool Aid and found an island hed make more money than if Man City signed him
 

COVKIDSNEVERQUIT

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  • Jun 12, 2023
  • #323
Matt smith said:
MR can’t keep working wonders

you won’t make the play offs in 3 out of 5 seasons if you don’t keep your best players

I appreciate the gyokeres arguement because he’s destined to go
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If a Club wants to succeed you can't keep having to rebuild the team every season.
 
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SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Jun 12, 2023
  • #324
COVKIDSNEVERQUIT said:
If a Club wants to succeed you can't keep having to rebuild the team every season.
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That’s exactly why some clubs do succeed! They get top money for players who are, in part, succeeding because of the setup they’re in.

Bissouma and Cucurella are examples of players who have done very little since moving
 
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SkyBlue_Bear83

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  • Jun 12, 2023
  • #325
robbiekeane said:
We literally just got to the playoff final without spending stupid money on individual wages.

Now people are crying saying we will never be able to compete in this league without doing this

Batshit crazy, good night
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And now the players who got us to that position want a salary reflecting of that achievement.

So you either pay it or lose them.
 
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Finham

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  • Jun 12, 2023
  • #326
slowpoke said:
Exactly, back in the day we bought Mick Harford who played one game, scored and never kicked a ball for us again.
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Yet made a miraculous recovery, dropped back into midfield and remained a top-flight regular for 2 years at Wimbledon. Tough man.
 

slowpoke

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  • Jun 14, 2023
  • #327
Extended his membership at Kenilworth golf course…apparently.
 
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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  • Jun 14, 2023
  • #328
slowpoke said:
Extended his membership at Kenilworth golf course…apparently.
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Gint11

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  • Jun 14, 2023
  • #329
COVKIDSNEVERQUIT said:
If a Club wants to succeed you can't keep having to rebuild the team every season.
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This is actually what most teams have to do. We’re all selling clubs but unless you’re a top 6 premier league team, youll lose players
 
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Kingokings204

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  • Jun 14, 2023
  • #330
slowpoke said:
Extended his membership at Kenilworth golf course…apparently.
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great I can have his membership when we sell him.
 

slowpoke

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  • Jun 14, 2023
  • #331
Kingokings204 said:
great I can have his membership when we sell him.
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Vacancy for his caddie too.
 
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AFCCOVENTRY

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  • Jun 14, 2023
  • #332
slowpoke said:
Extended his membership at Kenilworth golf course…apparently.
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I heard it’s a pay as you play membership…
 

Greggs

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  • Jun 14, 2023
  • #333
If Wagehorn was on 30k a week, what's the issue about giving Hamer that?
 
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Kingokings204

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  • Jun 14, 2023
  • #334
AFCCOVENTRY said:
I heard it’s a pay as you play membership…
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it’s funny as the cbs pitch at the start of last season had 18 holes
 
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Sky Blue Harry H

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  • Jun 14, 2023
  • #335
Grendel said:
He’s the least one dimensional striker I’ve seen at the club for the 50 years I’ve watched them
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Graham Withey
 
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wantageskyblue

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  • Jun 14, 2023
  • #336
Sky Blue Harry H said:
Graham Withey
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I was one of a handful of City fans at WHL to see him come off the bench late on in the game to equalise on August Bank Holiday Monday in 1983. He would be near the top of my list of the worst strikers ever to play for us.
 
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letsallsingtogether

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  • Jun 14, 2023
  • #337
HuckerbyDublinWhelan said:
Historically a more successful club aswell - yes they’ve had a few bad years, but they own Ewood park for a start.

we might be off on our travels in 5 years time

even if you take Blackburn out the other mentioned clubs are far more attractive
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So how come Man City are so succesful they dont own their ground?
 

letsallsingtogether

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  • Jun 14, 2023
  • #338
Deleted member 5849 said:
I tell you what, I wish there was the same desire to just pay Gyokeres what he wants...
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I dont believe there is a desire from Vik to stay at Coventry.
 
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Jun 14, 2023
  • #339
letsallsingtogether said:
So how come Man City are so succesful they dont own their ground?
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Don't they get a pretty sweet rental deal?
 

letsallsingtogether

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  • Jun 14, 2023
  • #340
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
Don't they get a pretty sweet rental deal?
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Probebly but we could have had the same bit late now.
Lots of clubs are struggling they also own their grounds.
We are at the CBS for 5 years worry after that. All these players will have moved on by then maybe even the owner.
 
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slowpoke

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  • Jun 15, 2023
  • #341
Kingokings204 said:
it’s funny as the cbs pitch at the start of last season had 18 holes
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And let’s remember the lucky man who made the grade and the 4000 holes in Blackburn Lancashire.
 

GIMOC

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  • Jun 15, 2023
  • #342
after seeing the post about the golf membership. asked for an update

City will only offer 16k a week. Gus wants 20k. Club have said they won’t budge on the 16. Clubs are now coming in for him including Prem
 
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Kingokings204

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  • Jun 15, 2023
  • #343
GIMOC said:
after seeing the post about the golf membership. asked for an update

City will only offer 16k a week. Gus wants 20k. Club have said they won’t budge on the 16. Clubs are now coming in for him including Prem
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if that’s true. 4k a week…. Ffs

so an extra 16k a month or almost 200k a year for the best midfielder in the championship or one of them. We are going to pocket almost 20m from Vik. Just seems stupid
 
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Marty

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  • Jun 15, 2023
  • #344
If it is that close, it's absolutely scandalous we can't push that bit further. Time to go Dougie, time to go.
 
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GIMOC

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  • Jun 15, 2023
  • #345
Kingokings204 said:
if that’s true. 4k a week…. Ffs

so an extra 16k a month or almost 200k a year for the best midfielder in the championship or one of them. We are going to pocket almost 20m from Vik. Just seems stupid
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the issue for me, if the club don’t budge on 16k and prem teams are making enquires, he along with the club have a decision to make. Does he stay one more year and hope we get promoted or do the club try and cash in on him.
 
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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  • Jun 15, 2023
  • #346
Kingokings204 said:
if that’s true. 4k a week…. Ffs

so an extra 16k a month or almost 200k a year for the best midfielder in the championship or one of them. We are going to pocket almost 20m from Vik. Just seems stupid
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Didn’t we do this with Gary Breen - didn’t he want £25k and we wouldn’t budge on 20?… he then left
 
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Seaside-Skyblue

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  • Jun 15, 2023
  • #347
GIMOC said:
after seeing the post about the golf membership. asked for an update

City will only offer 16k a week. Gus wants 20k. Club have said they won’t budge on the 16. Clubs are now coming in for him including Prem
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What is your source (if you are comfortable to say)? Must admit I am a bit skeptical and I'd be extremely disappointed if this is the case. That difference is chicken feed overall.

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GIMOC

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  • Jun 15, 2023
  • #348
Seaside-Skyblue said:
What is your source (if you are comfortable to say)? Must admit I am a bit skeptical and I'd be extremely disappointed if this is the case. That difference is chicken feed overall.

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I won’t say who but it’s the current situation. this summer window is the biggest I’ve known for the club.
 
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TomRad85

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  • Jun 15, 2023
  • #349
GIMOC said:
after seeing the post about the golf membership. asked for an update

City will only offer 16k a week. Gus wants 20k. Club have said they won’t budge on the 16. Clubs are now coming in for him including Prem
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Embarrassing if true.

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GIMOC

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  • Jun 15, 2023
  • #350
TomRad85 said:
Embarrassing if true.

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I did ask how much is he currently on. around 13k plus add on’s. So for an extra 7k a week it doesn’t make sense why the club don’t offer what he wants.
 
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