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ajsccfc

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  • Jan 16, 2023
  • #176
Proof that you do get a lot for the mascot fee
 

Paxman II

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  • Jan 18, 2023
  • #177
Southampton it has been suggested after Vik but unwilling to meet £18m fee. To think they are currently looking like falling into the championship especially if ward-Prowse leaves in this window as others are suggesting. Not a good move for Vik.
 
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SBT

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  • Jan 18, 2023
  • #178
Paxman II said:
Southampton it has been suggested after Vik but unwilling to meet £18m fee. To think they are currently looking like falling into the championship especially if ward-Prowse leaves in this window as others are suggesting. Not a good move for Vik.
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It would be a great move for him.
 
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slowpoke

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  • Jan 18, 2023
  • #179
SBT said:
It would be a great move for him.
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Not if he wants Premiership football next year.
 
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SBT

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  • Jan 18, 2023
  • #180
slowpoke said:
Not if he wants Premiership football next year.
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Oh ok he should stay with us in that case
 
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shmmeee

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  • Jan 18, 2023
  • #181
I’d take £18m all day long TBF. I’d even take £15m. Could do some damage with that.
 
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skybluepm2

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  • Jan 18, 2023
  • #182
shmmeee said:
I’d take £18m all day long TBF. I’d even take £15m. Could do some damage with that.
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I wonder how any incoming money is divvied up in this new setup. For example if we were to get £15m from the sale of Gyokeres, 15% would assumedly be apportioned to them with Doug inheriting the remaining 85% to hopefully put back into the football club?
 
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SkyBlueMatt

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  • Jan 18, 2023
  • #183
I'd imagine Brighton have a 20% sell on, so that's 2.8. The club would take 20-30% into running costs (and future budgets), so that's 4.5 which would give Robins 7.7 outright over the next couple of windows.

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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Jan 18, 2023
  • #184
shmmeee said:
I’d take £18m all day long TBF. I’d even take £15m. Could do some damage with that.
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It's a figure I'd think was acceptable, though would hope there'd be add-ons as well.

Part of that fee will go to Brighton but under King I'd be more hopeful (maybe naively so) that more of the fee would get reinvested in fees and wages. If it were SISU I'd say no as I wouldn't expect to get more than £1-2m out of it for fees and wages.

However, other than a likely big pay hike it'd be a bit of a sideways move as he'd likely be playing Championship next year.

Of course he could have an amazing end of the season there as an relatively unknown entity that defenders won't have worked out yet and get interest from the exposure, but I'm not sure he'd be making that much of a difference, especially in a struggling team. Defenders are stronger, quicker and just a yard sharper and they'd find a way to counteract his 'head down and run' more effectively than in this league. Plus he'd have to up his conversion rate as he'd have less opportunities.
 
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robbiekeane

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  • Jan 19, 2023
  • #185
SkyBlueMatt said:
I'd imagine Brighton have a 20% sell on, so that's 2.8.
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please show your working
 
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Tomh111

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  • Jan 19, 2023
  • #186
skybluepm2 said:
I wonder how any incoming money is divvied up in this new setup. For example if we were to get £15m from the sale of Gyokeres, 15% would assumedly be apportioned to them with Doug inheriting the remaining 85% to hopefully put back into the football club?
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That not really how owning a club would work, the fee would be payable to Coventry and while SISU own 15% they don’t automatically receive 15% of the incomings.

I would assume it is run the same as every other business in that they are liable for 15% of any dividends paid out - Should any be paid out.
 
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djr8369

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  • Jan 19, 2023
  • #187
shmmeee said:
I’d take £18m all day long TBF. I’d even take £15m. Could do some damage with that.
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The issue would be if it happens late in the January window you’ve then got little time to suddenly splash cash you weren’t expecting to have. Could easily spend that on a few journeymen at this level.
 

skybluetony176

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  • Jan 19, 2023
  • #188
I have a Wolves supporting mate who is adamant that they’re in for Vik and the deal will be done this window.
 
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PUSB-We_are_going_up

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  • Jan 19, 2023
  • #189
skybluetony176 said:
I have a Wolves supporting mate who is adamant that they’re in for Vik and the deal will be done this window.
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Ask him what he thinks the lottery numbers are
 
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skyblueelephant76

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  • Jan 19, 2023
  • #190
SkyBlueMatt said:
I'd imagine Brighton have a 20% sell on, so that's 2.8. The club would take 20-30% into running costs (and future budgets), so that's 4.5 which would give Robins 7.7 outright over the next couple of windows.

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I work with a Brighton fan who says they have a 30% sell on clause
 
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shmmeee

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  • Jan 19, 2023
  • #191
djr8369 said:
The issue would be if it happens late in the January window you’ve then got little time to suddenly splash cash you weren’t expecting to have. Could easily spend that on a few journeymen at this level.
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I wouldn’t worry too much. I think this seasons gone TBH. Maybe get a loan in but mostly I’d save for the summer rebuild.
 
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CDK

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  • Jan 19, 2023
  • #192
Well I wonder if robins would be given a bigger chunk of the 18 million if and when he goes by king?
 

shmmeee

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  • Jan 19, 2023
  • #193
CDK said:
Well I wonder if robins would be given a bigger chunk of the 18 million if and when he goes by king?
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Well in theory if we don’t need to sell then any sales are purely for rebuilding, right?
 
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Briles

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  • Jan 19, 2023
  • #194
shmmeee said:
I wouldn’t worry too much. I think this seasons gone TBH. Maybe get a loan in but mostly I’d save for the summer rebuild.
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I agree although take gyoks goals out the team and we are in for relegation
 
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Northeast sky blue

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  • Jan 19, 2023
  • #195
CDK said:
Well I wonder if robins would be given a bigger chunk of the 18 million if and when he goes by king?
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I think it was football insider or one of those sort of sites, suggesting that all the fee would be reinvested
 

shmmeee

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  • Jan 19, 2023
  • #196
Briles said:
I agree although take gyoks goals out the team and we are in for relegation
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Nah.
 
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Speedie's Head

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  • Jan 19, 2023
  • #197
It seems that nobody has offered £18m so the market seems to be telling us that he's not worth that. The thing is, will he be worth £18m in the summer with 12 months on his contract and him wanting a move? Can we afford to extend now if an offer does come in and probably double his pay?
 
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SkyBlueMatt

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  • Jan 19, 2023
  • #198
robbiekeane said:
please show your working
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20% on the profit of the sale.
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jan 19, 2023
  • #199
skyblueelephant76 said:
I work with a Brighton fan who says they have a 30% sell on clause
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No chance
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jan 19, 2023
  • #200
Speedie's Head said:
It seems that nobody has offered £18m so the market seems to be telling us that he's not worth that. The thing is, will he be worth £18m in the summer with 12 months on his contract and him wanting a move? Can we afford to extend now if an offer does come in and probably double his pay?
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You’ve got to hope we could
 

richnrg

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  • Jan 19, 2023
  • #201
skybluetony176 said:
I have a Wolves supporting mate who is adamant that they’re in for Vik and the deal will be done this window.
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PUSB-We_are_going_up said:
Ask him what he thinks the lottery numbers are
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Tou, throy, ait, twinty-noyne, ..........
 
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Deleted member 9744

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  • Jan 19, 2023
  • #202
skyblueelephant76 said:
I work with a Brighton fan who says they have a 30% sell on clause
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And how does he know anything more than any of us? Let's face it none of us have a clue.
 
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KenilworthSkyBlue

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  • Jan 19, 2023
  • #203
Sky Blue Pete said:
No chance
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30% isn't an insurmountable figure. I think Ivan Toney had a similar sell-on clause inserted in his deal.

Given the low fee Gyokeres was brought in for I'd imagine it's higher than most fans think.
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Jan 19, 2023
  • #204
SkyBlueMatt said:
20% on the profit of the sale.
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And 20% of £18m is....
 

Grendel

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  • Jan 19, 2023
  • #205
Sky Blue Pete said:
No chance
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There is obviously a chance.

Brighton had a £16 million release clause in Potters contract
 
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SBbucks

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  • Jan 19, 2023
  • #206
skybluepm2 said:
I wonder how any incoming money is divvied up in this new setup. For example if we were to get £15m from the sale of Gyokeres, 15% would assumedly be apportioned to them with Doug inheriting the remaining 85% to hopefully put back into the football club?
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Assuming you mean SISU get 15%? It doesn’t work like that. All the revenue would go to the club, not handed out in proportion to the shareholders



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Warwickhunt

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  • Jan 19, 2023
  • #207
skyblueelephant76 said:
I work with a Brighton fan who says they have a 30% sell on clause
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a million pound fee we paid for him suggest that it will not be as big a sell on clause as you suggest.
 

robbiekeane

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  • Jan 19, 2023
  • #208
SkyBlueMatt said:
20% on the profit of the sale.
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So £2.8m is 20% of £14m.

We are talking about an £18m fee. You think we bought him for £4m?
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jan 19, 2023
  • #209
KenilworthSkyBlue said:
30% isn't an insurmountable figure. I think Ivan Toney had a similar sell-on clause inserted in his deal.

Given the low fee Gyokeres was brought in for I'd imagine it's higher than most fans think.
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They let him go
He’d failed at Swansea
He’d not suggested anything to us in the short loan spell
I would think 30% is way too much
 

Grendel

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  • Jan 19, 2023
  • #210
Warwickhunt said:
a million pound fee we paid for him suggest that it will not be as big a sell on clause as you suggest.
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No evidence we paid that though
 
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