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Gustavo Hamer - CONFIRMED (29 Viewers)

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Otis

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  • Jun 18, 2020
  • #421
skybluesam66 said:
or about 15% as good as Eoin Jess
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The American entrepeneur and general nutcase?
 
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Gibbo

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  • Jun 18, 2020
  • #422
HuckerbyDublinWhelan said:
I think mason was a victim of the formation change. He’s a better defender than McCallum but McCallum was a better player going forward and more athletic
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He is absolutely not a better defender than Sam M I have just sat through the Pompey 3-3 full match film on YouTube and Mason was continually physically bullied. He is nifty on the ball but off it he will be dumped in the Championship.
 
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GaryMabbuttsLeftKnee

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  • Jun 18, 2020
  • #423
Gibbo said:
He is absolutely not a better defender than Sam M I have just sat through the Pompey 3-3 full match film on YouTube and Mason was continually physically bullied. He is nifty on the ball but off it he will be dumped in the Championship.
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That's interesting. The group I go with did match ratings this season 5 for MOTM, 3 for 2nd best player 1 for 3rd. We were in the ground so different perspective perhaps but 4 of the 5 of us had Mason as our MOTM for that game.
 
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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  • Jun 18, 2020
  • #424
Gibbo said:
He is absolutely not a better defender than Sam M I have just sat through the Pompey 3-3 full match film on YouTube and Mason was continually physically bullied. He is nifty on the ball but off it he will be dumped in the Championship.
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I honestly think Mason was the better player in the 4 man defence. Noting McCallums defending - watch him against Shrewsbury the second goal - McCallum has gone completely awol.

overall I think McCallum is a better player, but defensively McCallum has a lot to learn.

I also don’t disagree that we need a new left back btw. I genuinely just think if we stuck to 4-3-3 or 4-2-3-1 Mason would have been the left back
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Jun 18, 2020
  • #425
HuckerbyDublinWhelan said:
I honestly think Mason was the better player in the 4 man defence. Noting McCallums defending - watch him against Shrewsbury the second goal - McCallum has gone completely awol.

overall I think McCallum is a better player, but defensively McCallum has a lot to learn.

I also don’t disagree that we need a new left back btw. I genuinely just think if we stuck to 4-3-3 or 4-2-3-1 Mason would have been the left back
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Mccallum had been fouled up field. He was better than Mason in all respects.

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the rumpo kid

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  • Jun 18, 2020
  • #426
Otis said:
The American entrepeneur and general nutcase?
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Or might be a South African entrepreneur and general nutcase.
 

cc84cov

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  • Jun 18, 2020
  • #427
fernandopartridge said:
Mccallum had been fouled up field. He was better than Mason in all respects.

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Agreed
 

MusicDating

Euro 2016 Prediction League Champion!!
  • Jun 18, 2020
  • #428
fernandopartridge said:
Mccallum had been fouled up field. He was better than Mason in all respects.

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McCallum was next to O'Hare near the corner flag, so would have done very well even in the first minute to get back to defend the back post let alone the last min. One of the benefits of a back 3 is less reliance on the rampaging fullback to get back.
 
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better days

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  • Jun 18, 2020
  • #429
HuckerbyDublinWhelan said:
I honestly think Mason was the better player in the 4 man defence. Noting McCallums defending - watch him against Shrewsbury the second goal - McCallum has gone completely awol.

overall I think McCallum is a better player, but defensively McCallum has a lot to learn.

I also don’t disagree that we need a new left back btw. I genuinely just think if we stuck to 4-3-3 or 4-2-3-1 Mason would have been the left back
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I think we have to look at how the football community sees it
Mason is obviously a good player and he had a decent reputation coming through
But he was eventually released at Watford after they decided he wasn't ready for their level so luckily we picked up a good player on a free
McCullum came through from a non league team playing very low in the pyramid and quickly became a hot property
The club didn't want to sell him but ended up getting an offer we couldn't refuse
Time will tell if Sam kicks on and realises his potential
 
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Legia Sky Blue

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  • Jun 18, 2020
  • #430
Sky Blue Pete said:
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This Hamer story is feeling more and more like a hoax. I don't buy that he's somewhere in the UK, locked in a room for 14 days waiting to sign for us.
 
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chiefdave

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  • Jun 18, 2020
  • #431
Legia Sky Blue said:
This Hamer story is feeling more and more like a hoax. I don't buy that he's somewhere in the UK, locked in a room for 14 days waiting to sign for us.
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He probably isn't but someone at the club has realised if they announce it before the end of the quarantine period it will be obvious so better to keep quiet for a couple of weeks.
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jun 18, 2020
  • #432
Legia Sky Blue said:
This Hamer story is feeling more and more like a hoax. I don't buy that he's somewhere in the UK, locked in a room for 14 days waiting to sign for us.
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Perfectly reasonable for me
 
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shmmeee

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  • Jun 18, 2020
  • #433
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Didn’t think we got that much up front but makes sense I guess.
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Who says we paid up front?
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 18, 2020
  • #434
shmmeee said:
Who says we paid up front?
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The Dutch article says 1.5 million Euros with more to come in potential bonuses.
 
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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  • Jun 18, 2020
  • #435
fernandopartridge said:
Mccallum had been fouled up field. He was better than Mason in all respects.

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if I recall it was O’Hare who was fouled and there were enough passages of play from that moment for McCallum to get back.

I’m not saying that McCallum isn’t an all round better player, I’m saying that in a 4 man defence - Mason is a better defender.

McCallums athleticism and attacking strengths are why he suited the 5 man defence better
 
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mark82

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  • Jun 18, 2020
  • #436
Legia Sky Blue said:
This Hamer story is feeling more and more like a hoax. I don't buy that he's somewhere in the UK, locked in a room for 14 days waiting to sign for us.
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Don't panic Mr Mainwaring. Patience is a virtue.
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 18, 2020
  • #437
Brighton Sky Blue said:
The Dutch article says 1.5 million Euros with more to come in potential bonuses.
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Yeah but that doesn’t mean up front. Don’t most transfers get paid over instalments?

Anyway it’s a silly question, all money comes from Sisu, it’s just a question of how long the loan is.

Edit: do you have a link to that article? Got the missus to translate a couple I found, one just said rumoured fee of €1.5m and the other that City has offered €1.5m
 
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Skyblueweeman

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  • Jun 18, 2020
  • #438
Sky Blue Pete said:
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Do we know when the 14 days started?

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Skyblueweeman

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  • Jun 18, 2020
  • #439
1234CCFC said:
We sold Sky Blue Sam!?!? There will be uproar!
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Fucking SISU.

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steve cooper

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  • Jun 18, 2020
  • #440
Legia Sky Blue said:
This Hamer story is feeling more and more like a hoax. I don't buy that he's somewhere in the UK, locked in a room for 14 days waiting to sign for us.
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But he can't be seen holding a shirt up with his name on it, with MR's arm around him can he, if he is meant to be in isolation.
 
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TTG

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  • Jun 18, 2020
  • #441
1234CCFC said:
We sold Sky Blue Sam!?!? There will be uproar!
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Onye called Joy and said he was too fat
 

Terry_dactyl

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 19, 2020
  • #442
skybluesam66 said:
or about 15% as good as Eoin Jess
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We can but dream...
 
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bawtryneal

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 19, 2020
  • #443
Legia Sky Blue said:
This Hamer story is feeling more and more like a hoax. I don't buy that he's somewhere in the UK, locked in a room for 14 days waiting to sign for us.
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What is the point in signing him now and paying his wages from when he signs

Drag it out until at least July 1st !
 
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Magwitch

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  • Jun 19, 2020
  • #444
That’s probably what’s happening, transfer window isn’t open until July1st and he is still a contracted player.
 

Il Pirata

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  • Jun 19, 2020
  • #445
The Philosopher said:
Didn’t we have someone called Carlito or have I made that up?
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Carlita - first Portuguese player to be signed by a Premier League club.

Never played a game.
 

Marty

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 19, 2020
  • #446
Magwitch said:
That’s probably what’s happening, transfer window isn’t open until July1st and he is still a contracted player.
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Don't they just usually say that a player has agreed a deal and will join the club once the transfer window reopens?

I can't imagine he'll be in quarantine, you would think the club would pay to have him tested to get him free so he is able to complete a medical.

Are the club allowed to sign him then place him onto furlough?
 

Londonccfcfan

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 19, 2020
  • #447
Gibbo said:
He is absolutely not a better defender than Sam M I have just sat through the Pompey 3-3 full match film on YouTube and Mason was continually physically bullied. He is nifty on the ball but off it he will be dumped in the Championship.
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We was at the pompy game, and Mason that last 20 mins with our backs agsinst wall was incredible was definately motm, one the many memories stand out memories of the season. Incredible what you can't see on the telly!
 
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skyblue025

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  • Jun 20, 2020
  • #448
I agree this Hamer situation doesn't ring true. If we had signed him I'm sure they would just announce that from 1st July he's our player. There have been other transfers announced all over Europe. We might be interested, but this 14 day quarantine from a fan page sounds dodgy.
 

Hadji's_Goatee

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  • Jun 20, 2020
  • #449
We’re getting Walsh
 

Skyblueweeman

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  • Jun 20, 2020
  • #450
Hadji's_Goatee said:
We’re getting Walsh
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Prove it.

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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jun 20, 2020
  • #451
Skyblueweeman said:
Prove it.

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I’ve been thinking how would i feel if we signed

hamer
Ohare
Walsh
And a loan striker and kept everyone else

I do believe

marosi
Dabo
Rose
Hyam
Baka
Mason
Jobello
Max
Westbrooke
Shipley

have all got improvement in their game
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 20, 2020
  • #452
Sky Blue Pete said:
I’ve been thinking how would i feel if we signed

hamer
Ohare
Walsh
And a loan striker and kept everyone else

I do believe

marosi
Dabo
Rose
Hyam
Baka
Mason
Jobello
Max
Westbrooke
Shipley

have all got improvement in their game
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Id snap your hand off. Maybe a loanee LWB too though. And I’d add Pask to the list of improvees.

Cant see us getting Walsh and O’Hare though.
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jun 20, 2020
  • #453
shmmeee said:
Id snap your hand off. Maybe a loanee LWB too though. And I’d add Pask to the list of improvees.

Cant see us getting Walsh and O’Hare though.
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Can see Ohare but not Walsh unless his team go up and they won’t
 
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Magwitch

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  • Jun 20, 2020
  • #454
Londonccfcfan said:
We was at the pompy game, and Mason that last 20 mins with our backs agsinst wall was incredible was definately motm, one the many memories stand out memories of the season. Incredible what you can't see on the telly!
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Mason was our best player for the first couple of months of the season came out the team for McCallum, can’t remember why I’m assuming injury and McCallum dovetailed in, hardly put a foot wrong to be fair, must have been frustrating as hell for Mason but that’s football.
 

cc84cov

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 20, 2020
  • #455
Magwitch said:
Mason was our best player for the first couple of months of the season came out the team for McCallum, can’t remember why I’m assuming injury and McCallum dovetailed in, hardly put a foot wrong to be fair, must have been frustrating as hell for Mason but that’s football.
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Mason was dropped after being bullied at Rotherham
 
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