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  • Start date Jan 25, 2021
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shmmeee

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  • Jan 25, 2021
  • #106
Londonccfcfan said:
What the hell is Robins playing at we have lost our most effective best attacking threat.(according to you and your stats) what a load bolocks. Told you before about stats.

As for his defensive stats. How many attempts at challemgrs does he make? If he makes 2 challenges in 10 games and wins both he has 100% . How many actual defensive challemges has he actually made?

I bet he hasnt won a single aerial challemge....as for defensive challemges won, truly shocked.
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I told you: less than McCallum and more than Dabo. Him and Dabo are pretty much slap bang in the middle of the division for their position in terms of tackles attempted. McCallum is near the top.

This is all your inability to view players as anything but (to steal a phrase) SHIT or WORLD CLASS.
 

Evo1883

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 25, 2021
  • #107
Think dabo can be somewhat forgiven due to him coming back from injury maybe too soon and taking somewhat longer to get match fit

I still believe stats don't tell the whole story either way, way too many variables for each circumstance...

All I know is, Giles was decent going forward, it felt like he often wasn't quick enough getting back and there were gaps... We can visually see that irrespective of what the stats say
 
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hill83

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 25, 2021
  • #108
DON'T CARE
 
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hill83

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  • Jan 25, 2021
  • #109
GUTTED
 
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Frostie

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  • Jan 25, 2021
  • #110
Londonccfcfan said:
Looks like your in know, have inside information?.. selecting their team and formation for their manager are you..lol.

Lets see how he does at WING BACK.

He will likely play as winger (if he gets much game time) and is better suited for a team playing with 2 lunps up front.
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No, I just follow football.

Rotherham have played every game since November with wing-backs. Their left wing-back (Mattock) has been injured since early December (in the game against us), they've been using a CM & a RB as makeshifts & have been chasing a LWB since the window opened... Not exactly rocket science.
 
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Evo1883

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  • Jan 25, 2021
  • #111
Frostie said:
No, I just follow football.

Rotherham have played every game since November with wing-backs. Their left wing-back (Mattock) has been injured since early December (in the game against us), they've been using a CM & a RB as makeshifts & have been chasing a LWB since the window opened... Not exactly rocket science.
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Are Rotherham signing Giles?haven't read through the whole thread
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Jan 25, 2021
  • #112
Frostie said:
He's joining Rotherham to play wing-back.
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Being contracted by Wolves for the same
 
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shmmeee

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  • Jan 25, 2021
  • #113
Evo1883 said:
Are Rotherham signing Giles?haven't read through the whole thread
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That’s the rumour
 
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Londonccfcfan

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  • Jan 25, 2021
  • #114
He may
Frostie said:
No, I just follow football.

Rotherham have played every game since November with wing-backs. Their left wing-back (Mattock) has been injured since early December (in the game against us), they've been using a CM & a RB as makeshifts & have been chasing a LWB since the window opened... Not exactly rocket science.
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Thats interesting, once he plays (if) Wing back, they will soon revert back to playing that Right back or CM at wing back again.(which is what we will do).

Imo Giles is not an option at LWB. Just saying.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jan 25, 2021
  • #115
Nuno Santo (Aggressively) ‘I’m unhappy with the amount of time Ryan Giles is playing in his loan spell. We agreed more and I want to see him start more often’

Mark Robins (Cautiously) ‘I respectfully disagree, I am happy with his game time and the people on a well known Internet forum agree’

Nuno Santo (Aggressively) ‘I’ma fuck him off to Rotherham’

The meeting ended.
 
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Liquid Gold

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  • Jan 25, 2021
  • #116
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Nuno Santo (Aggressively) ‘I’m unhappy with the amount of time Ryan Giles is playing in his loan spell. We agreed more and I want to see him start more often’

Mark Robins (Cautiously) ‘I respectfully disagree, I am happy with his game time and the people on a well known Internet forum agree’

Nuno Santo (Aggressively) ‘I’ma fuck him off to Rotherham’

The meeting ended.
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Frostie

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  • Jan 25, 2021
  • #117
Liquid Gold said:
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If that's meant to be Nuno the face tech is worse than ever
 

ccfcchris

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 25, 2021
  • #118
“Ryan was recalled by Wolves yesterday so he’s gone back there and is due to go back out in the Championship, no doubt, later on,” said Robins.


“I’d like to place on record to Wolves my thanks for letting us have him and thank Ryan for his contribution while he’s been here and we move on from that situation.

That sounded very brief and almost cold or am I looking too much into it?
 

Liquid Gold

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 25, 2021
  • #119
Frostie said:
If that's meant to be Nuno the face tech is worse than ever
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To be fair I just googled ‘football manager regen faces’
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 25, 2021
  • #120
ccfcchris said:
“Ryan was recalled by Wolves yesterday so he’s gone back there and is due to go back out in the Championship, no doubt, later on,” said Robins.


“I’d like to place on record to Wolves my thanks for letting us have him and thank Ryan for his contribution while he’s been here and we move on from that situation.

That sounded very brief and almost cold or am I looking too much into it?
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Total speculation, but I wouldn’t be surprised if he gave Wolves a call after he was left out last game and asked to come home.
 
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Liquid Gold

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  • Jan 25, 2021
  • #121
shmmeee said:
Total speculation, but I wouldn’t be surprised if he gave Wolves a call after he was left out last game and asked to come home.
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I reckon you’re probably right. Felt like he didn’t want to go through another half season not seeing much football as he knows MR prefers McCallum.
 
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steve101

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  • Jan 25, 2021
  • #122
If Giles goes to Rotherham it will be interesting to see him come against Dabo. I would now recall Mason, which gives us an option if we change to a back 4.
 
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Cov kid 55

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  • Jan 25, 2021
  • #123
Sounds like Robins didn’t really want this to happen, and I do think it weakens our already threadbare attack. Leaving Giles out of the match day squad is an indication of Robins’ mind set, defense being the priority. I don’t think we’ll miss him, because I don’t think he would have had much game time in the second half of the season anyway. Still, disappointing overall.
 
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Deleted member 9744

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  • Jan 25, 2021
  • #124
shmmeee said:
This season?

Id argue Giles has been better. Dabo is still to reach the levels he hit last year.
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Wow. I am afraid I can't agree with that. Dabo wasn't at his best to start with but he was recovering from injuries. Since then he has been great.
 
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SAJ

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  • Jan 25, 2021
  • #125
fernandopartridge said:
According to transfermarkt McCallum has as many assists (1) and more goals than Giles.
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Interestingly though we have failed to score in 7 of the last 10 games he hasn’t played in.
 
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SAJ

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  • Jan 25, 2021
  • #126
fernandopartridge said:
He was dropped weeks before that
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fernandopartridge said:
He was dropped weeks before that
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The only teams we have scored against in open play since he was dropped are Rotherham and Wycombe no coincidence then we can’t score against anyone who was previously in the Championship.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jan 25, 2021
  • #127
SAJ said:
The only teams we have scored against in open play since he was dropped are Rotherham and Wycombe no coincidence then we can’t score against anyone who was previously in the Championship.
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Millwall
 
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Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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  • Jan 25, 2021
  • #128
Ccfcisparks said:
Lets be honest its pretty stupid of Robins, Dabo and Giles were our only real attacking outlets.
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The fact that they are basically both defenders says all you need to know about how impotent our attack is.
 

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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  • Jan 25, 2021
  • #129
Esoterica said:
We already see how few assists Dabo has, despite a number of excellent crosses every match, because he gets level with the box and has no-one to aim for. So there's no point doubling up and having two wingbacks bombing forward crossing the ball into 1 striker, who isn't especially good at heading the ball anyway.
We have to get a better 2nd AM so that we can play more effectively through the middle if we are going to persist with the box formation. We need to retain possession long enough in the opposition's half so that we can get the AMs into the box and the 2 deeper midfielders to within a 30 yard shooting range.
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Spot on.

I've said previously that the lack of assists is not Dabo's fault. He is one of our best players. If we cannot make the most of the wingbacks (which is the case) then we need to change system, or have better attacking midfielders. The ones we have at the moment are abysmal really.
 
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Chip Batch

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 25, 2021
  • #130
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
Spot on.

I've said previously that the lack of assists is not Dabo's fault. He is one of our best players. If we cannot make the most of the wingbacks (which is the case) then we need to change system, or have better attacking midfielders. The ones we have at the moment are abysmal really.
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totally agree - attacking midfield is the main problem. No strength, speed or goals there unless Hamer plays further forward.
 

Grendel

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  • Jan 25, 2021
  • #131
Chip Batch said:
totally agree - attacking midfield is the main problem. No strength, speed or goals there unless Hamer plays further forward.
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Amazed it’s attacking midfielders who need to produce goals and not our forwards
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 25, 2021
  • #132
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
Spot on.

I've said previously that the lack of assists is not Dabo's fault. He is one of our best players. If we cannot make the most of the wingbacks (which is the case) then we need to change system, or have better attacking midfielders. The ones we have at the moment are abysmal really.
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Who is abysmal
 
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Chip Batch

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  • Jan 25, 2021
  • #133
Grendel said:
Amazed it’s attacking midfielders who need to produce goals and not our forwards
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Our forwards have been in and out the team all season with injuries. Godden started ok. Though none of them are Ronaldo and are going to make their own chances isolated up front on their own. They get very little support.
 
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Skybluebeliever

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  • Jan 25, 2021
  • #134
Frostie said:
He's joining Rotherham to play wing-back.
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I heard Bristol city were also in for him
 

Hobo

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  • Jan 25, 2021
  • #135
Ccfcisparks said:
Lets be honest its pretty stupid of Robins, Dabo and Giles were our only real attacking outlets.
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At the same time fans are saying we have no attacking outlets.

I dont know the facts but how many goals and assists has Giles been responsible for?
 

mark82

Super Moderator
  • Jan 25, 2021
  • #136
Grendel said:
Amazed it’s attacking midfielders who need to produce goals and not our forwards
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They need to contribute more. Goals have dried up since our 2 main strikers were injured, and now we've signed another striker so we've tried to solve that. I really like O'Hare but he doesn't really score enough. The other attacking midfielders have been a bit inconsistent to be honest.
 

Frostie

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 25, 2021
  • #137
Hobo said:
At the same time fans are saying we have no attacking outlets.

I dont know the facts but how many goals and assists has Giles been responsible for?
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0 Goals
1 Assist

Assists can be one of the most misleading stats going though for reasons I've mentioned before.

His xA (expected assists) was exceptional at 3.54, the highest of any wing-back or full back in the Championship.
 
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AFCCOVENTRY

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  • Jan 25, 2021
  • #138
Giles has just tweeted his goodbye to Cov fans.
 

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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  • Jan 26, 2021
  • #139
Grendel said:
Who is abysmal
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O'Hare for all the good he does, and I do really rate him, is completely impotent.

Allen started really badly but then had a couple of good performances and was dropped.

Shipley should be in League 2.


They've been the main three. How many goals and assists between those three?
 
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shmmeee

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  • Jan 26, 2021
  • #140
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
O'Hare for all the good he does, and I do really rate him, is completely impotent.

Allen started really badly but then had a couple of good performances and was dropped.

Shipley should be in League 2.


They've been the main three. How many goals and assists between those three?
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I wouldn’t even count Allen, his only decent performances have come playing deeper.

Considering we started the season with something like 8 AMs (O’Hare, Jones, Jobello, Hilßner, Kasta, Shipley, Allen, Bapaga), the fact none of them are up to scratch is a concern.
 
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