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As an aside, are CCFC so incompetent that they can't even remove a dead man from this page?!?
http://www.ccfc.co.uk/club/boardroom/
http://www.ccfc.co.uk/club/boardroom/
Then he's one of many, a passionate CCFC fan. It's a bit insulting to CCFC fans to suggest that there aren't capable ones among them.
Why wouldn't he? Because he's been associated with just about every catastrophic board of the past X number of years, that's why. If he did put his hat in the ring, there's no reason to accept it. Are we so low that we repeat the mistakes of the past, that we allow the mistakes of the past to come back?
You've been taking lessons from Grendel here. Where is the fans' consortium then, that's taking us over? This is an irrelevance until it happens. To close off options by annointing a naked emperor is the most foolish thing we could do.
Associated in ever increasing degree throughout our catastrophic years. Accepted an offer to join the board in 2002, so there throughout the bungling incompetence that sees us lose our ground(s - plural!) and embraces the arrival of SISU. Then, even when removed from his position afterwards, backs a horse in Haskell that was never going to happen, when even ACL's preferred administrator said Haskell did not have the means to buy the club.
Judgement? Awful, truly awful. Association? Catastrophic, truly catastrophic.
I can't believe I even need to have this conversation!
But it doesn't change the point that in the end he might be the only one stepping up. Can't think of anyone else. Can you?
Well... I can actually.
But it's an irrelevance until and unless circumstances dictate it.
As an aside, are CCFC so incompetent that they can't even remove a dead man from this page?!?
http://www.ccfc.co.uk/club/boardroom/
Who?
I'm not going to dispute any of that but like I said "the sad reality is though Northern that JE might end up being the only person with any sort of a means and desire to save something of CCFC when the current owners have finished"
You may or may not like the bloke. You clearly don't think he's the right person and that's fair enough. But it doesn't change the point that in the end he might be the only one stepping up. Can't think of anyone else. Can you?
Pointless saying until and unless it's an issue, isn't it!
Why on earth should crowds get behind a man for something that isn't happening, and why on earth should options be closed off by a lemming-like surge behind a candidate?!?
At present there is nothing required to step up to so that's very difficult to imply surely?
Elliot has the means? In terms of what. Certainly not financially.
Whatever his fan status he certainly wouldn't from my experience have the skill set to lead the club.
You seem to be hypothesing a fans consortium. In that scenario why would others not exist?
If he was the only one so what? If Brian Richardson was the only one would that be ok?
Elliot's judgement has been catastrophic. Given the overwhelming evidence of such why would we trust him to assess suitable investors and strategic direction.
For me the Haskell debacle was the biggest failing of all actually. A man with no means to purchase but an offer of chairman seemed to be all that mattered.
It's funny. I posted a link to a story that quoted JE in his capacity as a member of the board that contradicted and dismissed some of your assumed facts and you dismissed him as a non entity in the boardroom who wasn't involved in any decision making or negotiations at the club so it must be nonsense.
All of a sudden he's the man who single handedly handed the club to SISU. That would be a bit difficult for a non entity in the boardroom who wasn't involved in any decision making or negotiations at the club wouldn't it?
There's your old friend duality again. He's your constant companion. Your shadow.
So you believe Elliot was instrumental in key decisions regarding the club?
Really? Which decisions were they? The only real strategic involvement was as a link between the outgoing board and sisu as an incoming partner - he was the public face.
To suggest he's the only person capable of leading a consortium is laughable really.
I'm all ears. Who else? You?
It's a scenario that doesn't exist. If it did there would be people interested.
Ffs, it's impossible to know who'd be interested, because the situation hasn't arisen. It's not difficult to understand.Yes I'm aware its a hypothetical scenario. So hypothetically who else is there out there that could be interested?
Ffs, it's impossible to know who'd be interested, because the situation hasn't arisen. It's not difficult to understand.
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Ffs, it's impossible to know who'd be interested, because the situation hasn't arisen. It's not difficult to understand.
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Hoffman had all the finance lined up but SISU refused to even meet with him due mainly to a personality clash.
For Tony it seems to be. It's like saying you can't say sack a manager unless you name a replacement.
I'm not even sure what the situation suggested is.
I assume by that you mean someone had actually seen the pound he offered. Was it just the one coin, or a series of smaller denominations?
I understand perfectly thanks. I'm not looking for a cast iron guarantee that they will step up I'm asking who else is out there who's a realistic possibility. I'm not even guaranteeing that JE would step up, I've only said that I wouldn't be surprised if he did and that he's possibly the only one who would. Others disagree. Fair enough, I don't have a problem with that. It's not too much of a difficult question to ask who else they think would be out there is it, if you believe that they're are others out there.
What normally happens is business people in or associated with the city in question become involved.
Like who? You're the big shot, connected man about town so you'd have us believe. Shouldn't be too difficult of a task for you to come up with a couple of names.
Hoffman had all the finance lined up but SISU refused to even meet with him due mainly to a personality clash.
Like who? You're the big shot, connected man about town so you'd have us believe. Shouldn't be too difficult of a task for you to come up with a couple of names.
You've just given one name yourself then.
In fact I'd rather take a Grendel, BHSB, Tony triumvirate than Elliott.
I try and have a sensible discussion and as usual you behave like a 3 year old
That's a great suggestion however wouldn't be long till I would be demonstratingYou've just given one name yourself then.
In fact I'd rather take a Grendel, BHSB, Tony triumvirate than Elliott.
That's a great suggestion however wouldn't be long till I would be demonstrating
They're like a married couple love each other really and I'd feel left outI can understand, what with the passionate obsession between Tony and Grendel.
If he was involved the best bet would be some sort of ambassadorial role. He's well liked with in the city so just get him out doing the handshaking with the local businessmen to drum up sponsorship.he has no place at this club in any kind of capacity that involves running the thing!
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