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oscillatewildly

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I can't tell if you're being facetious or not, but it's like anything in life. If you put off the cost of maintaining anything, or cut corners regularly, you end up paying it back with interest when it comes back to bite you.

In this case, there's been secondary societal damage caused by neglecting virtually all public services, ignoring the cost of living, suppressing wages etc etc which is now causing serious problems.
And on it goes and goes and goes.
I wasn’t being facetious, merely pointing out that this nation is many people - with varying needs and expectations and there isn’t one group of people at any one time in office who have constantly met the needs of those people.
Although some have at times been entrusted more than the other.
(Just using the last 50 years as a benchmark)
Otherwise we’ll be here till Norwich.
 

oscillatewildly

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It’s been a traumatic day for lefties, no doubt.
But there is at least some salvation at hand.
Why not make use of the abundance of all of those St George/Union flags to dry those tears on your way home?
It may need the assistance of a mate to help you shin up a lamp post but you don’t want to be turning up on your Mum’s doorstep with a snotty face now, do you?
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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It’s been a traumatic day for lefties, no doubt.
But there is at least some salvation at hand.
Why not make use of the abundance of all of those St George/Union flags to dry those tears on your way home?
It may need the assistance of a mate to help you shin up a lamp post but you don’t want to be turning up on your Mum’s doorstep with a snotty face now, do you?
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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It’s been a traumatic day for lefties, no doubt.
But there is at least some salvation at hand.
Why not make use of the abundance of all of those St George/Union flags to dry those tears on your way home?
It may need the assistance of a mate to help you shin up a lamp post but you don’t want to be turning up on your Mum’s doorstep with a snotty face now, do you?
Why? Given her previous stance on such discrepancies she had no other real option but to go.

I think she'll be back at some point in the future though.
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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Is it that I've become right wing/racist as I've got older? Or is it that I've been called right wing/racist that many times now, I just assume i am? like I said, so many ordinary, everyday people are so fed up of the status quo and now voting differently and being branded right wing and fascist because of it. When in reality, theyre not.

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It may well be you've become more right wing as you've got older - it is apparently something that happens a lot. I think it's to do with not being able to adapt to change as easily as you get older, so parties that appear to want to maintain the status quo become more appealing.

And it's the same the other way. The trope of Labour getting in would lead to a socialist/communist hellhole when most of what they put forward was moderate centre-right. It was more of a Tory manifesto than a Labour one. And even now they're still foolishly trying to appease those attracted to Reform, pushing everything further to the right.

I've been called a loony leftie, a socialist, commie whatever but it doesn't push me further left. I just believe in what I believe in. If you're moving further to the right because of what people call you, I'd suggest that's just where you want to be anyway and are using it as an excuse to go there.
 

wingy

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I've definitely become aware of the area's decline when compared to when I moved in,decline in it's many forms are pretty intolerable in many ways HMO:s being one, tenants dumping any crap they like, some does an oil change and leaves the waste on the pavement in an open receptical, mattresses fridge freezers sofa,my neighbour's, God knows who seem to rotate every two months god knows who owns it.
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shmmeee

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What is you obsession with calling everyone that doesn't agree with you "right wing", or "the right"? Its a bit weird if im being honest. I bet you use the word Nazi at least twice a week, the word racist daily, and the word fascist regularly?

Its funny, as the country becomes woker, ordinary people who have voted Labour most of their lives that have just had enough of the same old shit, are now classed as "right wing" or "racists" for wanting change. All it does it actually pushes people further right. For instance, the flags. People are now doing it out of principal. After Brum council cut them down and people branded them Nazis, it pushed more and more people to retaliate.

Growing up id of classed myself a Labour supporter. The older I got, id say i became very centre. I could see myself agreeing with either side and was very much a swing voter. I eventually became Centre/Right. But the more people have called me racist and right wing, the further right I've actually become, in protest against idiots that have branded me right wing anyway. Im not alone in these thoughts either. The left pushed people in to voting for Brexit, and didnt learn that lesson, and are now pushing Reform to the forefront too.

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Maybe you’re just a racist?

Easy test: do you judge whole cohorts of people based on stereotypes about their culture or nationality?

Also deciding what you believe based on what other people think is absolute cuck behaviour. Grow a pair.
 

fatso

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It may well be you've become more right wing as you've got older - it is apparently something that happens a lot. I think it's to do with not being able to adapt to change as easily as you get older, so parties that appear to want to maintain the status quo become more appealing.

And it's the same the other way. The trope of Labour getting in would lead to a socialist/communist hellhole when most of what they put forward was moderate centre-right. It was more of a Tory manifesto than a Labour one. And even now they're still foolishly trying to appease those attracted to Reform, pushing everything further to the right.

I've been called a loony leftie, a socialist, commie whatever but it doesn't push me further left. I just believe in what I believe in. If you're moving further to the right because of what people call you, I'd suggest that's just where you want to be anyway and are using it as an excuse to go there.
An old professor once told me,

" if your not a socialist in your twenties, you've got no heart, and if your still a socialist in your forties, you've got no brain."

At the time I wondered what he was on about, but now, many years later, it makes perfect sense.

Its nothing to do to with not adapting to change, its about gaining an understanding of life.
 

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