Do you want to discuss boring politics? (30 Viewers)

[oscillatewildly]

I can't tell if you're being facetious or not, but it's like anything in life. If you put off the cost of maintaining anything, or cut corners regularly, you end up paying it back with interest when it comes back to bite you.

In this case, there's been secondary societal damage caused by neglecting virtually all public services, ignoring the cost of living, suppressing wages etc etc which is now causing serious problems.

And on it goes and goes and goes.
I wasn’t being facetious, merely pointing out that this nation is many people - with varying needs and expectations and there isn’t one group of people at any one time in office who have constantly met the needs of those people.
Although some have at times been entrusted more than the other.
(Just using the last 50 years as a benchmark)
Otherwise we’ll be here till Norwich.

 

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[oscillatewildly]

It’s been a traumatic day for lefties, no doubt.
But there is at least some salvation at hand.
Why not make use of the abundance of all of those St George/Union flags to dry those tears on your way home?
It may need the assistance of a mate to help you shin up a lamp post but you don’t want to be turning up on your Mum’s doorstep with a snotty face now, do you?

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

It’s been a traumatic day for lefties, no doubt.
But there is at least some salvation at hand.
Why not make use of the abundance of all of those St George/Union flags to dry those tears on your way home?
It may need the assistance of a mate to help you shin up a lamp post but you don’t want to be turning up on your Mum’s doorstep with a snotty face now, do you?

 

[oscillatewildly]

Don’t tell me you haven’t got a mate, BSB?

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Don’t tell me you haven’t got a mate, BSB?

I have plenty plus a wife and now a baby son thanks

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

It’s been a traumatic day for lefties, no doubt.
But there is at least some salvation at hand.
Why not make use of the abundance of all of those St George/Union flags to dry those tears on your way home?
It may need the assistance of a mate to help you shin up a lamp post but you don’t want to be turning up on your Mum’s doorstep with a snotty face now, do you?

Why? Given her previous stance on such discrepancies she had no other real option but to go.

I think she'll be back at some point in the future though.

 

[mmttww]

It’s been a traumatic day for lefties, no doubt.

the idea that this government is Leftie is weird.

 

[oscillatewildly]

Why? Given her previous stance on such discrepancies she had no other real option but to go.

I think she'll be back at some point in the future though.

Well, you know what they say about bad smells.

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

Is it that I've become right wing/racist as I've got older? Or is it that I've been called right wing/racist that many times now, I just assume i am? like I said, so many ordinary, everyday people are so fed up of the status quo and now voting differently and being branded right wing and fascist because of it. When in reality, theyre not.

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It may well be you've become more right wing as you've got older - it is apparently something that happens a lot. I think it's to do with not being able to adapt to change as easily as you get older, so parties that appear to want to maintain the status quo become more appealing.

And it's the same the other way. The trope of Labour getting in would lead to a socialist/communist hellhole when most of what they put forward was moderate centre-right. It was more of a Tory manifesto than a Labour one. And even now they're still foolishly trying to appease those attracted to Reform, pushing everything further to the right.

I've been called a loony leftie, a socialist, commie whatever but it doesn't push me further left. I just believe in what I believe in. If you're moving further to the right because of what people call you, I'd suggest that's just where you want to be anyway and are using it as an excuse to go there.

 

[oscillatewildly]

the idea that this government is Leftie is weird.

No pushing in now - There is a sizeable queue forming to abandon this lot.

 

[Ccfcisparks]

No pushing in now - There is a sizeable queue forming to abandon this lot.

These lefty loonies must be hating it!! Streets filled with St Georges Flags, their government collapsing and the cafe's serving bacon sandwiches despite what the invaders think!!

 

[SBAndy]

I have plenty plus a wife and now a baby son thanks

It’s fine though, he wasn’t being facetious with that prior comment.

 

[wingy]

I've definitely become aware of the area's decline when compared to when I moved in,decline in it's many forms are pretty intolerable in many ways HMO:s being one, tenants dumping any crap they like, some does an oil change and leaves the waste on the pavement in an open receptical, mattresses fridge freezers sofa,my neighbour's, God knows who seem to rotate every two months god knows who owns it.
.

 

[shmmeee]

What is you obsession with calling everyone that doesn't agree with you "right wing", or "the right"? Its a bit weird if im being honest. I bet you use the word Nazi at least twice a week, the word racist daily, and the word fascist regularly?

Its funny, as the country becomes woker, ordinary people who have voted Labour most of their lives that have just had enough of the same old shit, are now classed as "right wing" or "racists" for wanting change. All it does it actually pushes people further right. For instance, the flags. People are now doing it out of principal. After Brum council cut them down and people branded them Nazis, it pushed more and more people to retaliate.

Growing up id of classed myself a Labour supporter. The older I got, id say i became very centre. I could see myself agreeing with either side and was very much a swing voter. I eventually became Centre/Right. But the more people have called me racist and right wing, the further right I've actually become, in protest against idiots that have branded me right wing anyway. Im not alone in these thoughts either. The left pushed people in to voting for Brexit, and didnt learn that lesson, and are now pushing Reform to the forefront too.

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Maybe you’re just a racist?

Easy test: do you judge whole cohorts of people based on stereotypes about their culture or nationality?

Also deciding what you believe based on what other people think is absolute cuck behaviour. Grow a pair.

 

[fatso]

It may well be you've become more right wing as you've got older - it is apparently something that happens a lot. I think it's to do with not being able to adapt to change as easily as you get older, so parties that appear to want to maintain the status quo become more appealing.

And it's the same the other way. The trope of Labour getting in would lead to a socialist/communist hellhole when most of what they put forward was moderate centre-right. It was more of a Tory manifesto than a Labour one. And even now they're still foolishly trying to appease those attracted to Reform, pushing everything further to the right.

I've been called a loony leftie, a socialist, commie whatever but it doesn't push me further left. I just believe in what I believe in. If you're moving further to the right because of what people call you, I'd suggest that's just where you want to be anyway and are using it as an excuse to go there.

An old professor once told me,

" if your not a socialist in your twenties, you've got no heart, and if your still a socialist in your forties, you've got no brain."

At the time I wondered what he was on about, but now, many years later, it makes perfect sense.

Its nothing to do to with not adapting to change, its about gaining an understanding of life.

 

[shmmeee]

An old professor once told me,

" if your not a socialist in your twenties, you've got no heart, and if your still a socialist in your forties, you've got no brain."

At the time I wondered what he was on about, but now, many years later, it makes perfect sense.

Its nothing to do to with not adapting to change, its about gaining an understanding of life.

That and you get more bigoted as your brain plasticity and world shrinks.

 

[shmmeee]

Guys. You’re out here supporting politicians and their supporters who call reporters n****rs, who want to send legal immigrants home if they’re Pakistani, who attack brits if they look too foreign, who are trying to burn down hotels because they’ve got foreigners in them.

It isn’t life wisdom or mean lefties making you racist. It’s your racism.

 

[shmmeee]

A while anyone who supports Reform or the Tories right now is a clear racist, if the right ever gets a normal party back people who support that might not be. They could be greedy, or stupid. There are lots of reasons to be right wing. But right now there’s only one and it’s because you don’t like brown foreigners (not the Europeans, “you’re on of the good ones” (white))

 

[shmmeee]

Oh and “if you aren’t right wing when you’re old you’ve got no brain” might just be the most hilarious shit I’ve ever read.

 

[Nick]

8am on a Saturday. Wanking over yougov and calling everybody racist and thick. Life goals.

Weird as fuck to get life views from small polls.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

An old professor once told me,

" if your not a socialist in your twenties, you've got no heart, and if your still a socialist in your forties, you've got no brain."

At the time I wondered what he was on about, but now, many years later, it makes perfect sense.

Its nothing to do to with not adapting to change, its about gaining an understanding of life.

It’s a quote attributed to Winston Churchill, not something your ‘old professor’ said, unless he was referencing him. A lot of us are neither, but social democrats wanting a mix of the government running some things and the free market others.

 

[Sick Boy]

It’s a quote attributed to Winston Churchill, not something your ‘old professor’ said, unless he was referencing him. A lot of us are neither, but social democrats wanting a mix of the government running some things and the free market others.

It's almost like there was no old professor.

 

[Sbarcher]

Wonder which of her now 2 pads she woke up in this morning?

 

[Marty]

Early start for the globalist shill.

 

[SkyBlueDom26]

No anger or tears here, just laughter at incredibly dumb shits like you. Turkeys voting for Christmas. Anyway, isn't it past your bedtime?

Nurse, quick, he's eating all the crayons again!

Good one you fucking idiot, sorry to see the reply didn’t get any likes!

 

[CCFCSteve]

It may well be you've become more right wing as you've got older - it is apparently something that happens a lot. I think it's to do with not being able to adapt to change as easily as you get older, so parties that appear to want to maintain the status quo become more appealing.

And it's the same the other way. The trope of Labour getting in would lead to a socialist/communist hellhole when most of what they put forward was moderate centre-right. It was more of a Tory manifesto than a Labour one. And even now they're still foolishly trying to appease those attracted to Reform, pushing everything further to the right.

I've been called a loony leftie, a socialist, commie whatever but it doesn't push me further left. I just believe in what I believe in. If you're moving further to the right because of what people call you, I'd suggest that's just where you want to be anyway and are using it as an excuse to go there.

I try to avoid this thread recently but I’ve got to call out this continued social media BS about the government being centre right, in what appears some attempt to say, we need a ‘proper left wing’ government.

They increased taxes by something like £40bn pa and planned increased borrowing of £160bn over Parliament. They gave resident docs what they wanted to settle dispute with nothing in return (and BMA have come back for more !). I’ve got no major issue with these things if they help improve the country but let’s not pretend this is centre right. I think shmmeee has added a load of additional left wing policies previously.

They and the Tories to be fair, have shown limited ability/political will to control spending which is currently £1.3trn per annum (£45k per household). As recently as 19/20 we were spending about £900bn (£1.13trn in today’s money) per annum. So once inflation is taken into consideration spending has increased in real terms by £150bn pa in that time. Thats before current governments planned additional borrowing. Borrowing costs will remain higher until we can demonstrate a semblance of control* or we go into recession and inflation drops significantly. The question should be, where the fuck is the/our money going ?

The only solution however appears to shouting ‘wealth tax’ louder and louder.



This post shows the economic illiteracy/ basic lack of facts that some on the socialist/ideological left are peddling. I saw it yesterday but without the readers context, glad it’s been added as it was frankly bollocks but people read and believe this shit ! Would fund the nhs budget (£40bn ?! it’s x5 that)

*this isn’t just a U.K. issue and I’d implore anyone with any interest in the economy, government borrowing, spending etc to look at what’s happening across major economies in terms of borrowing costs….what has recently been happening in France and Germany, the pressure Japan is coming under etc. - see link

MSN

 

[oscillatewildly]

A while anyone who supports Reform or the Tories right now is a clear racist, if the right ever gets a normal party back people who support that might not be. They could be greedy, or stupid. There are lots of reasons to be right wing. But right now there’s only one and it’s because you don’t like brown foreigners (not the Europeans, “you’re on of the good ones” (white))

 

[Grendel]

8am on a Saturday. Wanking over yougov and calling everybody racist and thick. Life goals.

Weird as fuck to get life views from small polls.

Strangely absent for most of yesterday.

 

[Grendel]

Oh and “if you aren’t right wing when you’re old you’ve got no brain” might just be the most hilarious shit I’ve ever read.

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Ironic given where Ms Rayner sits on this

 

[PVA]

It’s a quote attributed to Winston Churchill, not something your ‘old professor’ said, unless he was referencing him.

 

[Evo1883]

Id probably give Labour less chance today of winning a general election than at any point in the last 30 years .

 

[Grendel]

I can’t see her going. It’s not a sacking offence and he won’t want to sack her. Better to tough it out if he’s got any strategic nouse (which is a big if).

The political guru is wrong again

 

[Evo1883]

The political guru is wrong again

With whats replaced her id rather she stayed , weirdly .

She had to go but its definitely not for the best

 

[Captain Dart]

That and you get more bigoted as your brain plasticity and world shrinks.

Says someone who has seemingly fixed and largely conventional views on most things, is intolerant of people holding different world views and often makes wrong judgements.

 

[PVA]

Wonder which of her now 2 pads she woke up in this morning?

Are politicians not allowed to own more than one home?