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Frostie said:
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I'm sorry, but I hate this retconning of the likes of Kenneth Clarke as somehow a better Tory.

He served in the cabinet under Thatcher.

He was happy to serve under Thatcher.

Let that sink in.
 
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JAM See said:
I'm sorry, but I hate this retconning of the likes of Kenneth Clarke as somehow a better Tory.

He served in the cabinet under Thatcher.

He was happy to serve under Thatcher.

Let that sink in.
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He was a better class of Tory. He may have been a c**t but he’s a c**t who could string a sentence together to explain his beliefs and at least believed in the principles of Parliament.
 
shmmeee said:
He was a better class of Tory. He may have been a c**t but he’s a c**t who could string a sentence together to explain his beliefs and at least believed in the principles of Parliament.
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I'm generally aligned with your worldview @shmmeee ... but seriously, "a better class of Tory"?

How low can you go?
Death row
What a worker know
 
JAM See said:
I'm generally aligned with your worldview @shmmeee ... but seriously, "a better class of Tory"?

How low can you go?
Death row
What a worker know
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I despise everything Thatcher stood for, but even she had some qualities.

Now, we've got a warmed up version of Thatcherism but delivered by people who you wouldn't be surprised to see eating crayons.
 
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
I despise everything Thatcher stood for, but even she had some qualities.

Now, we've got a warmed up version of Thatcherism but delivered by people who you wouldn't be surprised to see eating crayons.
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It’s shocking how awful the government is. Even more shocking is that the only people they have to replace them are equally if not even more awful. The Tories need wiping out at the next GE if only so they can start from a clean sheet. There’s not one that you would trust to babysit your children.
 
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
I despise everything Thatcher stood for, but even she had some qualities.

Now, we've got a warmed up version of Thatcherism but delivered by people who you wouldn't be surprised to see eating crayons.
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More retconning.

What qualities?
 
shmmeee said:
He was a better class of Tory. He may have been a c**t but he’s a c**t who could string a sentence together to explain his beliefs and at least believed in the principles of Parliament.
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Its like a deep fake, when they take the face of someone from Coventry Labour and graft it on to a Tory.

It leaves people wondering if its great special effects or just people chasing power at everyone's else expense.
 
Anyway, 4th day in ICU and I am so bored.
 
clint van damme said:
What's happened?
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Things go up, things go down.

Lungs this time.

Still got two!

They reckon they've fixed me this time rather than just doing running repairs.

Going to get to respiratory today if there's a bed free and then out in a day or two.
 
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
She was a strong leader. Such a shame that personality was allayed to the most godawful snobbish economic policy.
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Actually had a science education as well. Say what you like about Thatcher and her mental economic beliefs, she wouldn’t fall for the conspiracy nut nonsense that fills the current Tory Party.
 
Cheers Shmmeee, appreciated.

"Thatcher did more for Women's Rights than Labour ever has."

Discuss...
 
Philosorapter said:
Cheers Shmmeee, appreciated.

"Thatcher did more for Women's Rights than Labour ever has."

Discuss...
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Sure Start did more for feminism than any number of women PMs.

Girlboss liberal feminism is a con perpetuated by the patriarchy to ensure female liberation happens on men’s terms. Discuss.
 
shmmeee said:
Sure Start did more for feminism than any number of women PMs.

Girlboss liberal feminism is a con perpetuated by the patriarchy to ensure female liberation happens on men’s terms. Discuss.
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I mean real change to society Shmmeee. Not knocking sure start, it is/was a nobel effort but that is superficial to what Thatcher achieved with Women's Rights.
 
shmmeee said:
Actually had a science education as well. Say what you like about Thatcher and her mental economic beliefs, she wouldn’t fall for the conspiracy nut nonsense that fills the current Tory Party.
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Just feel obliged to point out that not having a science education doesn't make you a conspiracy theorist any more than having one - being a nutter makes you a conspiracy theorist!
 
Not strictly politics but after reading got to put it somewhere.
Makes you want to weep .
Slightly late with the story.

metro.co.uk

Young woman who survived Brussels terror attack 'euthanised' after severe PTSD

Shanti De Corte, 23, survived an ISIS terror attack in 2016 but was never able to recover from the trauma of the incident, and eventually sought to euthanise herself through legal means in Belgium.
metro.co.uk metro.co.uk
 
Philosorapter said:
Things go up, things go down.

Lungs this time.

Still got two!

They reckon they've fixed me this time rather than just doing running repairs.

Going to get to respiratory today if there's a bed free and then out in a day or two.
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Get well soon.

Keep us updated on your progress, preferably with some sort of graph.
 
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Werid thing is I am going to need a few months before I become fighting fit again so I might as well start testing out home advantage on Elo and Glicko-2 and posts the results for all to see.

I have the correct settings :)

All the other stuff will be up to date hopefully by next weekend.

Got a busy few weeks ahead of myself when I get back.
 
Philosorapter said:
Things go up, things go down.

Lungs this time.

Still got two!

They reckon they've fixed me this time rather than just doing running repairs.

Going to get to respiratory today if there's a bed free and then out in a day or two.
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All the best to you

Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk
 
wingy said:
Not strictly politics but after reading got to put it somewhere.
Makes you want to weep .
Slightly late with the story.

metro.co.uk

Young woman who survived Brussels terror attack 'euthanised' after severe PTSD

Shanti De Corte, 23, survived an ISIS terror attack in 2016 but was never able to recover from the trauma of the incident, and eventually sought to euthanise herself through legal means in Belgium.
metro.co.uk metro.co.uk
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How tragic, just unimaginable really

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Philosorapter said:
Werid thing is I am going to need a few months before I become fighting fit again so I might as well start testing out home advantage on Elo and Glicko-2 and posts the results for all to see.

I have the correct settings :)

All the other stuff will be up to date hopefully by next weekend.

Got a busy few weeks ahead of myself when I get back.
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Maybe a chess comeback afterwards?
 
wingy said:
Not strictly politics but after reading got to put it somewhere.
Makes you want to weep .
Slightly late with the story.

metro.co.uk

Young woman who survived Brussels terror attack 'euthanised' after severe PTSD

Shanti De Corte, 23, survived an ISIS terror attack in 2016 but was never able to recover from the trauma of the incident, and eventually sought to euthanise herself through legal means in Belgium.
metro.co.uk metro.co.uk
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Christ that's depressing. Not sure I agree with that tbh, doesn't feel right to me. Others may feel differently.

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