Welcome to Sky Blues Talk!

You're currently viewing the forum as a guest. Join thousands of fellow Coventry City fans today!

Register Log in

Do you want to discuss boring politics? (24 Viewers)

shmmeee said:
It didn’t exist under Blair, was introduced in Browns last budget as PM just before the election and was reduced three years later by Clegg and Cameron from 50% to 45%.
Click to expand...

Did the unelected Mr Brown have a mandate for that action? Was it in the manifesto?
 
Grendel said:
Did the unelected Mr Brown have a mandate for that action? Was it in the manifesto?
Click to expand...

No. If you recall I said Brown should have called an election earlier. Are you now agreeing with that point?

Was the cost of living payments or the COVID funds in their respective manifestos, or do major external events come outside manifesto promises?
 
shmmeee said:
No. If you recall I said Brown should have called an election earlier. Are you now agreeing with that point?

Was the cost of living payments or the COVID funds in their respective manifestos, or do major external events come outside manifesto promises?
Click to expand...

Of course influences come in which is why you can’t make parties stick to a manifesto when they change leaders and that leader you don’t like

everyone on here have got want they wanted - Johnson gone - enjoy the next two years
 
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
I agree with him too - the people should decide. Not going to happen now she's fucked her new leader bounce within a week.

Point I was making was BSB said they make shit picks but fact is the last one they picked won a landslide in an election, so the people did actually get to decide and agreed with them. May didn't get a majority but did have more seats than any other party. So those members would argue that they don't make bad decisions because when given a vote the people to some extent or another agrees with them.

However, I think that would change quite dramatically right now...
Click to expand...
As far as I can remember, Johnson got an 80 seat landslide by attracting 42% of the vote (not the total electorate). Of those people that voted, presumably 58% didn’t want him.
It strikes me that to end up with the result we did shows that the first past the post system is simply wrong. The last three elections my vote has counted for nothing as the Tory candidate got in every time (same for Tory voters in Labour seats, I know).
We need a new voting system where every vote counts.
 
Grendel said:
Of course influences come in which is why you can’t make parties stick to a manifesto when they change leaders and that leader you don’t like

everyone on here have got want they wanted - Johnson gone - enjoy the next two years
Click to expand...

I didn’t want Johnson gone, he was excellent for Labour. I just want an election when a PM no longer commands a majority in the commons.
 
Grendel said:
Did the unelected Mr Brown have a mandate for that action? Was it in the manifesto?
Click to expand...
I'm glad you can work out the difference between isolated changes to maintain a general policy (which they *all* do and *none* of them stick *exactly* to the manifesto) and a cultural shift.

It's really good to pick up the microcosm. We can all do that, as nothing is exact in life when it involves people.

What I find especially bizarre is I agreed with your original point!
 
Irish Sky Blue said:
As far as I can remember, Johnson got an 80 seat landslide by attracting 42% of the vote (not the total electorate). Of those people that voted, presumably 58% didn’t want him.
It strikes me that to end up with the result we did shows that the first past the post system is simply wrong. The last three elections my vote has counted for nothing as the Tory candidate got in every time (same for Tory voters in Labour seats, I know).
We need a new voting system where every vote counts.
Click to expand...
I agree with that but at the same time I can't think of another system whereby picking a local representative would be fairer.

But at the same time there's no way an entire elected government should be chosen on that basis as it could totally fail to represent the country as a whole. So as I've said before the other house gets elected via the proportion of votes they got nationally and get a proper voice when considering legislation. It's not perfect as some people will have voted tactically at a local level but it's still better than having them just appointed at the whim of a PM.

It would essentially mean that the upper house would always be a hung parliament, but considering the absolute extremes we've seen under the current system I don't think it would be that bad even if it did lead to a bit of stalemate in the corridors of power.
 
Grendel said:
Of course influences come in which is why you can’t make parties stick to a manifesto when they change leaders and that leader you don’t like

everyone on here have got want they wanted - Johnson gone - enjoy the next two years
Click to expand...
No we wanted the Tories gone, not just Johnson. Clearly Truss is even worse.
 
It used to be the norm for governments of the day to just call an election when the wind was in their favour. We've just gone full circle back to the early 1800s
 


Red Wall bloodbath on the cards, wonder is MPs like Jenkins and Davison will be looking for different seats come 2024
 
Braverman is think as mince, look forward to her being mocked weekly in parliament
 
PVA said:
What an utter c**t she is
Click to expand...

You've got to hand it to them, don't think anyone thought they could find a worse double act than Johnson and Patel but they've managed it.

That tweet is spot on, if the things our government were doing were happening elsewhere we'd be talking about the far right but there just seems to be a passive acceptance by most people, or even worse, people fully supporting what they are proposing.
 
Patel is looking a wishy washy liberal nowadays. And May seems positivvely lefty!
 
  • Like
Reactions: PVA
How the fuck has she & her accountant hubby still got a mortgage?

A quick google reveals she only owns a modest house in norfolk & one property in greenwich which they've had for 15 years.....


what the fuck do they do with their money?
 
Last edited:
James Cleverly is not covering himself in glory the last day or so.

Now there's a politician you can call thick and even Rob can't pull you up on it.
 
PVA said:
James Cleverly is not covering himself in glory the last day or so.

Now there's a politician you can call thick and even Rob can't pull you up on it.
Click to expand...

James is a one man case against nominative determinism
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Similar threads

P
The AI thread
4 5 6
Replies
195
Views
6K
mmttww
mmttww
JulianDarbyFTW
    • Like
Small Wins
Replies
3
Views
282
King Dougs Quiff
King Dougs Quiff
Bertola
8xbet
Replies
5
Views
732
northstander
northstander
olderskyblue
Sky stream v SkyQ
Replies
12
Views
417
Mcbean
Mcbean
ThatCovPod
Podcast Ep 109 - Forest 0-1 Coventry | Dasilva lining as Sky Blues land first Premier League win
Replies
0
Views
107
ThatCovPod
ThatCovPod

Users who are viewing this thread

Total: 25 (members: 0, guests: 25)
Back
Top Bottom