The moonLooks pretty good to me. Focuses on voters main concerns over Labour (tax and spend). Not sure what more you want.
I would say the detail will be important but sadly the last few years have shown that few people are bothered about detail so it will come down to if they can convince people they can deliver on what they are saying.Looks pretty good to me. Focuses on voters main concerns over Labour (tax and spend). Not sure what more you want.
I would say the detail will be important but sadly the last few years have shown that few people are bothered about detail so it will come down to if they can convince people they can deliver on what they are saying.
I'm going to hazard a guess at the ones which have left , and say they are of no real loss at all
No matter what , its still in my best interest to vote for Labour..
Go off on your way and join the northern independence Party, join the greens , join the lib dems , or whatever fringe left wing warrior group you choose ...
But please , do not moan when the tories win again ....SIMPLE
Looks pretty good to me. Focuses on voters main concerns over Labour (tax and spend). Not sure what more you want.
I agree. It’s also short and snappy messaging which has proven to be effective with voters
Looks pretty good to me. Focuses on voters main concerns over Labour (tax and spend). Not sure what more you want.
What does it even mean? Why are Labour trying to play in the Tories' natural space? Why aren't they using this war like event (covid) to come up with some postwar like solutions?
Why would I vote for Labour if they're just promising the same thing as the Tories?
It means “we can be trusted not to tax you loads and spend on everything like we know you’re worried we will do”
Because we need to win votes from the Tories.
Because most people don’t see Covid as some massive even but a public health crisis to be managed then moved on from.
Because they’re more competent and less nasty.
Your problem is looking at it as a lefty. Most people aren’t lefties. Of course the messaging isn’t for you.
Was Cameron wrong to hug a hoodie and waffle about climate change when the Tories were seen as evil and anti-science? Was Johnson wrong to promise public service spending and investment in towns? No, that’s how elections are won: from the centre.
That worked perfectly in 2010 and 2015 didn't it?
It needs to be condensed into 3 words
It did for the Tories.
Do I really need to point to 2017 and 2019 for evidence against the navel gazing strategy you propose?
It did for the Tories.
Do I really need to point to 2017 and 2019 for evidence against the navel gazing strategy you propose?
As supposed to pointing to 1997 and thinking that world is still relevant?It did for the Tories.
Do I really need to point to 2017 and 2019 for evidence against the navel gazing strategy you propose?
As supposed to pointing to 1997 and thinking that world is still relevant?
Electoral maths is always relevant. Most people aren’t far left so appealing to the far left won’t win.
Where do I start? Because they are not so obviously incompetent. Labour might not be great but they would not be so ruinously bad for the country as this Government.What does it even mean? Why are Labour trying to play in the Tories' natural space? Why aren't they using this war like event (covid) to come up with some postwar like solutions?
Why would I vote for Labour if they're just promising the same thing as the Tories?
No one is saying they will. And as you say, electoral maths is relevant - even more so that Scotland is gone for good as far as Labour is concerned. So how is it going to make all the gains it needs… by re-harnessing all their best hits from 97 in a world that now needs something more? Every single metric of prosperity is declining for the vast majority of the people in this country…Electoral maths is always relevant. Most people aren’t far left so appealing to the far left won’t win.
As supposed to pointing to 1997 and thinking that world is still relevant?
Again - calling Starmer out for being fucking hopeless is not an endorsement of the Tories. His job is to offer an alternative so people have a choice… he’s failing in every single aspect of this.Where do I start? Because they are not so obviously incompetent. Labour might not be great but they would not be so ruinously bad for the country as this Government.
Personally I think it is quite clear what it means.
Nearly 140k dead from covid, terrible trade deals, abandoning people who supported us in Afghanistan to the Taliban, how much worse does it need to be?
But hey let's keep going on about deficiencies of Labour rather than the dreadful Government.
'Tax is Good'It needs to be condensed into 3 words
If you are asking me if Blair/Brown were looking at today’s landscape would they been savvy enough to know they needed to do more?you honestly think I blair and brown were starting now they wouldn’t have a million times better chance of success than the idiots who have followed?
Have you ever read any of my other posts about politics?Where do I start? Because they are not so obviously incompetent. Labour might not be great but they would not be so ruinously bad for the country as this Government.
Personally I think it is quite clear what it means.
Nearly 140k dead from covid, terrible trade deals, abandoning people who supported us in Afghanistan to the Taliban, how much worse does it need to be?
But hey let's keep going on about deficiencies of Labour rather than the dreadful Government.
Again - calling Starmer out for being fucking hopeless is not an endorsement of the Tories. His job is to offer an alternative so people have a choice… he’s failing in every single aspect of this.
Tax doesn't actually pay for any of those things and it's really time to make that clear. The issue with the concept of taxpayer's money is that it sets an artificial limit on spending that just does not need to be there.'Tax is Good'
It'll never catch on. But people who go to the doctor's, drive on roads, have a midwife deliver their children, see the children go to junior school, see the children go to big school, have their shit disappear somewhere every time they have a poo need to realise that this costs money and creates jobs.
They need to realise that paying tax is a GOOD THING.
Paying tax is what any grown up should be happy to do.
If you are asking me if Blair/Brown were looking at today’s landscape would they been savvy enough to know they needed to do more?
Probably yes
'Tax is Good'
It'll never catch on. But people who go to the doctor's, drive on roads, have a midwife deliver their children, see the children go to junior school, see the children go to big school, have their shit disappear somewhere every time they have a poo need to realise that this costs money and creates jobs.
They need to realise that paying tax is a GOOD THING.
Paying tax is what any grown up should be happy to do.
most people want aspiration and to grow their personal wealth
Funny because when we discussed substantive and progressive ways you could put more cash in people's pockets you said that nobody cares about policy so it doesn't matter
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