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[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

Streeting is absolutely right
I never thought I’d see the day when it was ok to say these things again.
shame on us

Reform MP Sarah Pochin's comments about adverts were 'racist', Wes Streeting says

Sarah Pochin apologises for saying "it drives me mad when I see adverts full of black people, full of Asian people".

www.bbc.co.uk

Phrased poorly, but it is a fair point on the demographics of advertising. Calling everything racist isn't exactly helpful towards any cause and the people that scream it the most often show themselves up as not really having any counter arguments.

There seems to be this desire to make the UK a completely mixed society, where as historically white British have been the majority demographic in the UK. This is now becoming a minority at a very alarming rate, and already are in many cities. Point this out and you are called a racist.

It's part of the reason Reform are doing so well, and also why we're seeing people putting Union Jack's up. The reaction to these comments will only add to that. No one has addressed what she has said, but instead just played the outrage card.

 

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[Mucca Mad Boys]

It wasn’t normal times
Rioting was happening including people attempting to set fire to hotels containing human beings

Ok, what’s the evidence here tweeting specifically incited violence? None. There’s an implicit acceptance in your response that the harshness of the sentence was politically motivated and that’s kind of the point here.

12 months for sexual assault of a minor is a joke and allows predators to reoffend.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Phrased poorly, but it is a fair point on the demographics of advertising. Calling everything racist isn't exactly helpful towards any cause and the people that scream it the most often show themselves up as not really having any counter arguments.

There seems to be this desire to make the UK a completely mixed society, where as historically white British have been the majority demographic in the UK. This is now becoming a minority at a very alarming rate, and already are in many cities. Point this out and you are called a racist.

It's part of the reason Reform are doing so well, and also why we're seeing people putting Union Jack's up. The reaction to these comments will only add to that. No one has addressed what she has said, but instead just played the outrage card.

Nah step too far for me sorry
It needs to be called out
She has a responsibility as racists are being emboldened to attack verbally and physically on the back of the words

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Ok, what’s the evidence here tweeting specifically incited violence? None. There’s an implicit acceptance in your response that the harshness of the sentence was politically motivated and that’s kind of the point here.

12 months for sexual assault of a minor is a joke and allows predators to reoffend.

I wonder if those within the system know better than you or I?

She pleaded guilty to the offence

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

Nah step too far for me sorry
It needs to be called out
She has a responsibility as racists are being emboldened to attack verbally and physically on the back of the words

I honestly thinking shutting down these types of conversations only serves to make it worse in that sense.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

I honestly thinking shutting down these types of conversations only serves to make it worse in that sense.

I genuinely don’t notice wtaf does it matter what colour skin someone has

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

I genuinely don’t notice wtaf does it matter what colour skin someone has

That isn't the point here.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

That isn't the point here.

Ok

 

[Mucca Mad Boys]

I wonder if those within the system know better than you or I?

She pleaded guilty to the offence

The government did sound tough as the riots happened so it’s not even a secret.

It happened at the same time Labour decided to release criminals early which predictably went down like a lead balloon.

She did plead guilty and she claims she did so because she was allegedly pressured into it.

 

[Sick Boy]

Phrased poorly, but it is a fair point on the demographics of advertising. Calling everything racist isn't exactly helpful towards any cause and the people that scream it the most often show themselves up as not really having any counter arguments.

There seems to be this desire to make the UK a completely mixed society, where as historically white British have been the majority demographic in the UK. This is now becoming a minority at a very alarming rate, and already are in many cities. Point this out and you are called a racist.

It's part of the reason Reform are doing so well, and also why we're seeing people putting Union Jack's up. The reaction to these comments will only add to that. No one has addressed what she has said, but instead just played the outrage card.

Not that it should matter but the country is over 80% white.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

The government did sound tough as the riots happened so it’s not even a secret.

It happened at the same time Labour decided to release criminals early which predictably went down like a lead balloon.

She did plead guilty and she claims she did so because she was allegedly pressured into it.

They had to

The system was about to collapse

she wasn’t

 

[Mucca Mad Boys]

They had to

The system was about to collapse

she wasn’t

‘The system was about to collapse’ doesn’t ring particularly true the way they fast tracked rioters and people who posted mean tweets. Rioters, more than happy to clamp down because no one wants civil disorder.

Again, the back drop is that the government made it it priority to bring these people to justice but not everyday criminals and these perceptions damaged this government significantly.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

‘The system was about to collapse’ doesn’t ring particularly true the way they fast tracked rioters and people who posted mean tweets. Rioters, more than happy to clamp down because no one wants civil disorder.

Again, the back drop is that the government made it it priority to bring these people to justice but not everyday criminals and these perceptions damaged this government significantly.

That’s just not true but I’m too tired to discuss

No one was fast tracked the criminal justice system is collapsing but no one who didn’t plead guilty was fast tracked anywhere

nothing I say will convince you that rioters and those egging them on weren’t badly treated

there were no prison places left

 

[Mucca Mad Boys]

That’s just not true but I’m too tired to discuss

No one was fast tracked the criminal justice system is collapsing but no one who didn’t plead guilty was fast tracked anywhere

nothing I say will convince you that rioters and those egging them on weren’t badly treated

there were no prison places left

Did this not happen then?

Starmer says rioters can expect rapid sentencing - BBC News

Teenager James Nelson is thought to be the first person to be jailed for their part in the disorder.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[SBT]

There seems to be this desire to make the UK a completely mixed society, where as historically white British have been the majority demographic in the UK. This is now becoming a minority at a very alarming rate, and already are in many cities. Point this out and you are called a racist.

What is "alarming" to you about having fewer white people in the UK?

 

[rob9872]

Demographics of the United Kingdom - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Just for balance, whatever your views, this has numbers for all upur arguments on both sides.

One fact I thought was interesting was the kids at school. In 2004 it was 6.4m classified as white British, in 2021 it was 6.3m, however in 2004 that was 82%, in 2021 it was 66.3%.

So whilst the numbers arent hugely different, the overall number of kids in school has massively increased at the same time the number of teachers has declined.

It also shows how the demographic of the country might look in another generation I guess.