Brighton Sky Blue
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So *all* of the people doing this crime are Pakistani origin?
So *all* of the people doing this crime are Pakistani origin?In this instance all the victims are one race and the criminals another aren't they?
Shit yourself more. We are coming for you.
Where does it say that witness statements were altered? It states that ethnicity data is poorly collected or not at all.The Casey report said there was an unwillingness to investigate. Witness statements were altered and any mention of the offenders being Pakistani removed. It is a national scandal and the defensiveness and deflection on here just seems odd.
The Bristol gang was SomaliSo *all* of the people doing this crime are Pakistani origin?
Is one way of seeing it this is perhaps the other end of the opinion which adds balanceWhich begs the question why Keir Starmer and top Labour grandees dismissed the issue as ‘far right dog whistling’…
Had the government took up a national inquiry from Day 1, they could’ve made the Tories look v silly for not getting a grip on the issue. Yet, the government voted down the motion in parliament, gaslit the public they were jumping on the ‘far right’ bandwagon all to then do a U-turn and have the inquiry anyway.
So *all* of the people doing this crime are Pakistani origin?
The answer is no they are notThe grooming gangs in Telford;
Telford child sex abuse went on for generations, inquiry finds
Agencies blamed children and not perpetrators for the abuse suffered in Telford, the report says.www.bbc.co.uk
The grooming gangs in Rochdale;
The grooming gangs in Rotherham
The grooming gangs in Newcastle
Operation Sanctuary: Newcastle child sex network convicted
Vulnerable girls and young women were plied with alcohol and drugs and then forced to have sex.www.bbc.co.uk
You tell me
The Casey Report? It makes 12 recommendations, only one of which explicitly refers to the question of ethnicity. But if you want to claim that’s the only one that matters, be my guest.
The answer is no they are not
Bolton grooming gang guilty of abuse in 'party house' - BBC News
Eight men have been convicted of multiple sexual offences agains a teenage girl.www.bbc.co.uk
I'm just trying to add some balance to this argument.One teenage girl. Jesus Christ. Scouring the internet - its incredible.
Pakistani men created a criminal gang mentality to systematically abuse in some cases pre-pubescent white girls. They targeted specifically white girls as they saw them as underclass. Why this triggers people I have know idea. They fed them with drugs, enticed them with gifts and coerced them. They then used them for money and forced them to be systematically raped by hundreds of men who viewed them as "white trash"
The deflecting and swerving from this is frankly disgusting.
Sick burnWhy would he be deported? Are you married to a Pakastani man? To be fair that would make some sense.
The Home Office report seems to disagreeThe grooming gangs in Telford;
Telford child sex abuse went on for generations, inquiry finds
Agencies blamed children and not perpetrators for the abuse suffered in Telford, the report says.www.bbc.co.uk
The grooming gangs in Rochdale;
The grooming gangs in Rotherham
The grooming gangs in Newcastle
Operation Sanctuary: Newcastle child sex network convicted
Vulnerable girls and young women were plied with alcohol and drugs and then forced to have sex.www.bbc.co.uk
You tell me
I'm just trying to add some balance to this argument.
You've just invalidated that 1 girls experience in the Bolton case by saying "just one girl"Its not balance though is it and these cases are specifically race related. White girls who were deemed as dirty and promiscuous and who then were subjected to abuse none of us on here could ever even begin to imagine.
If the victims read some of the crap posted on here over the last 48 hours what would they think?
The Home Office report seems to disagree
The answer is no they are not
Bolton grooming gang guilty of abuse in 'party house' - BBC News
Eight men have been convicted of multiple sexual offences agains a teenage girl.www.bbc.co.uk
I'm just trying to add some balance to this argument.
As I've said in a previous post, there clearly is a problem in that group of the population.No one denies that the existence of grooming gangs of other ethnicities.
You have one group representing 4% of the population committing 62% of CSE crimes and 64% of all suspects in Rotherham. That’s clearly a problem you cannot ignore or even obfuscate.
I’m defending nothing. The report there says Black and South Asian men are overrepresented but the majority of offenders are white.These cases are specifically race related -the face you are spending time defending this is disgusting.
You've just invalidated that 1 girls experience in the Bolton case by saying "just one girl"
I’m defending nothing. The report there says Black and South Asian men are overrepresented but the majority of offenders are white.
Unless you think the Home Office is also ‘defending’ grooming gangs.
I've not denied it anywhere, and said theres clearly a problem.Its not invalidating it at all. Its not a network of grooming that existed for years in these societies and was a targeted racial attack by Pakistani men on white girls. This is not the same. Of course it exists in the white community but the denial this is a specific race issue is really strange.
Fair enough if there’s only one kind of grooming you want the authorities to tackle, but why get upset with people for pointing out it’s a broader problem?Its not invalidating it at all. Its not a network of grooming that existed for years in these societies and was a targeted racial attack by Pakistani men on white girls. This is not the same. Of course it exists in the white community but the denial this is a specific race issue is really strange.
Read the report. It actually covers the topic and data with a great deal of balance.Are the victims in these other cases purely targeted by race?
Read the report. It actually covers the topic and data with a great deal of balance.
I don’t know. If I go looking I assume you will again call me ‘disgusting’?Are there other instances where victims were targeted solely by race?
Fair enough if there’s only one kind of grooming you want the authorities to tackle, but why get upset with people for pointing out it’s a broader problem?
Where does it say that witness statements were altered? It states that ethnicity data is poorly collected or not at all.
I don’t know. If I go looking I assume you will again call me ‘disgusting’?
Keep winding yourself up if it makes you happy. Make up whatever you feel like to add to the word count. Nothing you've typed will have an effect on how I view what I said so it's a waste of energy and bandwidth.
and to admins, are we cool with this stuff?
Where does it say that witness statements were altered? It states that ethnicity data is poorly collected or not at all.
Report does say on nearly all the research under "ethnicity" that the data should be treated with caution or in some instances does not distinguish between groups and individuals.The Home Office report seems to disagree
You still haven't said a word about them.
Is objecting to the cover up of sexual grooming a "far right" issue now?Its a bit more than just poor data collection. People are still ignoring a key element of the Casey report:
"We found many examples of organisations avoiding the topic altogether for fear of appearing racist, raising community tensions or causing community cohesion problems,"
Unfortunately ‘do gooders’ have inadvertently thrown the large majority of good, well meaning members of the Pakistani community under the bus as this could/should’ve been nipped in the bud years ago. The far right will now leap on this and probably try to tar everyone with the same brush. Same as the HR lawyers/open borders groups keeping criminals in the country for spurious reasons to block deportations.
All that happens is people then question everything whether that’s immigration as a whole, the ECHR or even the political establishment which leaves the space for populism.
Been talking about it since before Brexit and it’s similar to the problems in the U.S., if you ignore decent people’s genuine concerns, throw cost of living crisis/difficult economic times and you can end up with people like Trump or god forbid Farage in power.
Is objecting to the cover up of sexual grooming a "far right" issue now?
Surely every right minded individual would be appalled by the issue, not just those of a far right persuasion.
Tommy Robinson was warning about this 15 years ago, and got demonised by the press and politicians as a result.
I'd suggest it's the liberal left that should feel ashamed for their actions.
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