If Stevie Wonder could see it then why are our supposed experts in the police and SAG so blind.
We've got Birmingham, West Brom, Stoke and Millwall coming up soon. I don't share your confidence that there is little chance of a repeat. Agreed there's not usually trouble in the stadium but then for years the away supporters are miles away as numbers have been low. What is the threshold at which you think its actually worth trying to stop?Get on top of what? It's unlikely to happen again now.
It's the 2nd time in about 5 years some has been able to wander across.
The fence is stupid and pointless if you can just walk down and around it
As someone said why were they allowed to leave at the same time as the City fans?
I think they may disagree with your conclusion and may want to dispassionately take a look a what happened and why and what could be done differently in the future. LolAt the risk of sounding like a stuck record why does the dibble rep need to look at the game to realise standing around doing fuck all is a poor way of doing crowd control when it gets volatile. Sorry but they need to accept they played a part in this.
I'm sure there will be a thorough investigation that comes to the conclusion that they did nothing wrong. Then they will get told unofficially to get up there quicker next time.I think they may disagree with your conclusion and may want to dispassionately make a look a what happened and why and what could be done differently in the future. Lol
Well they are accountable and responsible along with the club for safety on the site and safety outside of the site.I'm sure there will be a thorough investigation that comes to the conclusion that they did nothing wrong. Then they will get told unofficially to get up there quicker next time.
No accountability in the police at all.
I admire your optimismWell they are accountable and responsible along with the club for safety on the site and safety outside of the site.
It's no different to how it used to be 20 years and those looking to cause trouble would hear about it anyway with social media.My concern is that this has been put all over social media now by Derby and Cov 'fans'. Other teams will now come in numbers looking for nd expecting trouble, especially Stoke, Blues, Baggies and possibly Millwall as well.
Derby fans have been bleating that someone pulled a machete out at the Cherry Tree on Saturday which was the reason for them running. There was no evidence to support this and was more than likely just chinese whispers but other clubs fans see it and it could end pretty badly with teams thinking Cov are up for it every week.
We've got Birmingham, West Brom, Stoke and Millwall coming up soon. I don't share your confidence that there is little chance of a repeat. Agreed there's not usually trouble in the stadium but then for years the away supporters are miles away as numbers have been low. What is the threshold at which you think its actually worth trying to stop?
It may only be the 2nd time in 5 years (inside the stadium, certainly not outside where there is now trouble at the end of that fence on a regular basis) but 2 of those were spent in Brum, one shortened season & one behind closed doors, its been much longer since we were in the Championship and even longer since we were getting 20K plus crowds on a regular basis - must be about 15 years.
As I mentioned earlier in the thread its not only our games that have had issues at the stadium & exhibition hall. Personally if I were in charge I'd be asking why we struggle to stage events that go off without a hitch around the country.
Police seem to have taken a stance of they would rather film the trouble , and retrospectively arrest and ban rather than charge in and stop the disorder or defuse it . I think this is a dangerous action because people coked or pissed don’t think rationally ., I think it’s a dangerous tactic myself because waiting for stewards to do the job puts more people in harms way lazy policing
But did they though? Not one Derby fan got close to the Coventry end? Their job was to stop that happening and it worked.
loads of them got a way across and it was only after did the police reinforce. Any stopping was mostly done by the stewards
The Birmingham game has the potential to be a really tough game for the police and stewards to keep a lid on.Wont take much to light the fuse unfortunately.
Another solution , make the 2 or 3 rows infront of it unavailableHas anything been mentioned regarding the score board think that damage the corner of it WANKERS... PUSB
Tuesday night and Sky should tone that down a bit. I think it was the 1-0 when Scott Dann scored was running battles outsideThe Birmingham game has the potential to be a really tough game for the police and stewards to keep a lid on.Wont take much to light the fuse unfortunately.
Another solution , make the 2 or 3 rows infront of it unavailable
The sensible thing to do would definitely keep them in for 10-15 minutes.Hopefully after Saturday theyve realised this.Really can't cost anymore to keep away fans In for 10 minutes ..I imagine it costs a hell of alot more to police fighting for an hour or so after the match , with arrests etc
The sensible thing to do would definitely keep them in for 10-15 minutes.Hopefully after Saturday theyve realised this.
If the police we're up there earlier stopping the bottle throwing from both sides then there wouldn't have been any charging andit wouldn't have escalated in the way it did.But did they though? Not one Derby fan got close to the Coventry end? Their job was to stop that happening and it worked.
I think they are netted off but there is nobody up there to stop them jumping over the netting.Another solution , make the 2 or 3 rows infront of it unavailable
I remember a 4 all draw on a Sunday...absolute warfare afterwards.Jesus.Tuesday night and Sky should tone that down a bit. I think it was the 1-0 when Scott Dann scored was running battles outside
It happens hardly ever though.
I'll tell you what would nipped it in the bud though, the old bill actually taking action when it started to get a bit volatile instead of leave a few minimum wage stewards to deal with it.
Fearsome bunch,always have been tbfBlues fans are pretty mad tbh , got free tickets to watch them v Cardiff and outside blues fans were slapping Cardiff all over the shop
For those suggesting keeping away fans in just be aware that the car parks are still pretty full of cars queueing to leave and there are still hundreds of people around at 5.30 plus the roads and shopping centre are rammed until at least an hour post match.
Unless coaches are placed outside the away end and there is a police escort for other fans it can all kick off again.
You'd be mad if you had to live in Birmingham.Blues fans are pretty mad tbh , got free tickets to watch them v Cardiff and outside blues fans were slapping Cardiff all over the shop
If the police we're up there earlier stopping the bottle throwing from both sides then there wouldn't have been any charging andit wouldn't have escalated in the way it did.
They may have prevented a full scale brawl but their lack of action contributed to it becoming a possibility one might happen.
Fair points....thats probably the best idea,when certain clubs visit.Its all about cost though i expect? Shouldnt be a factor though when it be comes to peoples safety ffs.For those suggesting keeping away fans in just be aware that the car parks are still pretty full of cars queueing to leave and there are still hundreds of people around at 5.30 plus the roads and shopping centre are rammed until at least an hour post match.
Unless coaches are placed outside the away end and there is a police escort for other fans it can all kick off again.
I remember a 4 all draw on a Sunday...absolute warfare afterwards.Jesus.
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