Match Thread Coventry City vs. Gillingham Match Thread - Saturday 2nd Feb (5 Viewers)

no_loyalty

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Chaplin will start, miss 3 open goals in the first 10 minutes. Hiwula will slip over and collide with the post and hurt his bollocks, while the ball goes miles away from him. 0-0 at HT. Gillingham will come out all guns blazing and score within 2 minutes of the restart, then sit behind the ball. In the 67 minute Robins will bring on JCH for whoever is our best player, and he will miss 2 easy chances. FT 0-1 and the majority of the 29,307 crowd go home unhappy, never to return again.
 

Otis

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You’ve two places left on your bench, assuming you’d put Chaplin and Addai in? ;-)




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I wouldn't count on it.

He thinks Chaplin is the worst striker. In fact, not only the worst striker, but the worst striker in the whole of League One and not only the worst striker in the whole of League One, but the worst striker in League One by a million miles.

So, my guess is no, he won't be on the bench for London's Saturday team selection.
 

Londonccfcfan

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Westbrooke on the left wing?

Didnt he play there against Southen, or switch hime to other side with Thomas.
Regardless he was imo our best player last game. Excellent with dead ball. Seem to remember wasnt this the game he delivered pin point clever ball over the top for chaplin to blaze over with only keeper to beat.
 

Londonccfcfan

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I wouldn't count on it.

He thinks Chaplin is the worst striker. In fact, not only the worst striker, but the worst striker in the whole of League One and not only the worst striker in the whole of League One, but the worst striker in League One by a million miles.

So, my guess is no, he won't be on the bench for London's Saturday team selection.

Correct, id swap him for anyone elses striker in League one.
Every striker we play against week in week out looks better and stqtistically is better. Just take glandulain or whatever his name is for blackpool , or game before vs plymouth, swap him for Ladapo or Lameiras any day. Or this week vs Gills would have spent 500k on Tom Eaves.

Jeez id take even take Wycombes third choice striker Akinfenwa!

Btw im judging Chaplin as ive witnessed his every minute on the pitch. Apart from Charlton away missed that game.
 

Nick

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Correct, id swap him for anyone elses striker in League one.
Every striker we play against week in week out looks better and stqtistically is better. Just take glandulain or whatever his name is for blackpool , or game before vs plymouth, swap him for Ladapo or Lameiras any day. Or this week vs Gills would have spent 500k on Tom Eaves.

Jeez id take even take Wycombes third choice striker Akinfenwa!

Btw im judging Chaplin as ive witnessed his every minute on the pitch. Apart from Charlton away missed that game.
That was the Baka show, good assist from Chaplin though
 

steve82

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Didnt he play there against Southen, or switch hime to other side with Thomas.
Regardless he was imo our best player last game. Excellent with dead ball. Seem to remember wasnt this the game he delivered pin point clever ball over the top for chaplin to blaze over with only keeper to beat.

I get your not a Chaplin fan, no need to explore that opinion right now but if Westbrook was our best player do you not think your doing what many dislike about MR in putting a player in Westbrook who was also in my opinion excellent last week shifting out to the wing to accommodate a return of Bayliss.

Your now shoehorning a player back in like MR. why not play the same system and just change Chaplin for a more physical lead main man in JCH.


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Londonccfcfan

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I get your not a Chaplin fan, no need to explore that opinion right now but if Westbrook was our best player do you not think your doing what many dislike about MR in putting a player in Westbrook who was also in my opinion excellent last week shifting out to the wing to accommodate a return of Bayliss.

Your now shoehorning a player back in like MR. why not play the same system and just change Chaplin for a more physical lead main man in JCH.


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JCH needs service. We really struggle with set play delivery. That's a massive thing division goals from set plays. Westbrook from what I've seen is our best dead ball specialist.

I understand your logic, But would harsh to drop Zain.

MR has one eye on next season. Zain and a few other promising youngsters deserve a chance to stake a claim in place of Chaplin.
 

Nick

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Westbrooke looks to take a decent corner but the biggest issue is lack of movement.

If you look at Willis' goal against Stoke he was making a run for Davies putting it back across. When we get set pieces now everybody stands still as if they know it's going to go to the keeper anyway.
 

MatthewWallis

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Westbrooke looks to take a decent corner but the biggest issue is lack of movement.

If you look at Willis' goal against Stoke he was making a run for Davies putting it back across. When we get set pieces now everybody stands still as if they know it's going to go to the keeper anyway.

I would love to see them even reach the keeper, seems to just be headed away by the first defender
 

steve82

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JCH needs service. We really struggle with set play delivery. That's a massive thing division goals from set plays. Westbrook from what I've seen is our best dead ball specialist.

I understand your logic, But would harsh to drop Zain.

MR has one eye on next season. Zain and a few other promising youngsters deserve a chance to stake a claim in place of Chaplin.

Your team suggestion was this
-----------Burge-------------
Sterling, Willis, Hyam, Brown
Thomas, Kelly, Bayliss, Westbrooke
--------JCH, Bright----------

If you really want to drop Chaplin and bring JCH back in but want to accommodate a return of Bayliss then why not go with the system that’s working and creating opportunities and play them like this.
--------------Burge-------------
Sterling--Willis--Hyam--Brown
-----Westbrooke--Kelly---------
-Thomas--Enobakhare-Bayliss--
-------------JCH-----------

This way don’t alter much and as a result don’t shift Westbrook back out to the left and go with a reasonably fluid 3 in behind but remind all 4 forward players that they need to support JCH being braver arriving in the box sooner when appropriate.

You’ve also suggested retaining Westbrook for his set piece ability and bringing JCH’s physical attributes back but then taken Tom Davies out who’s the only looking threat over the season at set pieces. Retain Davies in the side and if Willis if fit maybe rotate Hyam with him to bring a extra set piece threat.

Finally i don’t see the need to change to a 442 when the last few games we’ve created 46* opportunities in the last 3 games according to the press association. Better fortunes and decision making is all that’s required with a clinical edge.

* opportunities recorded not the number of on target, blocked or saves made. Naturally that is a different figure, one I cannot find.



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covcity4life

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agree @steve82 no formation change needed. we are making chances. just tweaks needed now to avoid conceding silly goals and making sure we convert chances or make the right pass

if we keep outshooting teams eventually we will start winning more than we lose
 

steve82

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agree @steve82 no formation change needed. we are making chances. just tweaks needed now to avoid conceding silly goals and making sure we convert chances or make the right pass

if we keep outshooting teams eventually we will start winning more than we lose

A good amount of our goals conceded are from set pieces and second phases of the with lack of hight, concentration or ownership of dealing with the situation. The same with some of the goals in open play it’s a player error being caught in possession or lack of ownership or just a good goal in the odd occasion.

The formation of the 4231 is limiting the number of chances in open play for the opposition while creating at the other end so that’s a positive and don’t need alteration. It’s not my preferred style but it’s working for what we have.

Stick with the system and the players and believe in the vision. They are young, naive at times and strikers lacking belief overthinking opportunities if anything trying too hard to get the perfect opportunity or connection.
It’s L1 after all many players are inconsistent in performances over the 90 mins or game to game. Tom Bayliss is a classic example of this on how he’s in and out of games.


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Londonccfcfan

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agree @steve82 no formation change needed. we are making chances. just tweaks needed now to avoid conceding silly goals and making sure we convert chances or make the right pass

if we keep outshooting teams eventually we will start winning more than we lose

I wouldnt change formation either.442 all the way. Thats the team i would go with. Really interesting to see if Robins brings the young in form striker Bremang into the squad. Couldnt do any worse.
 

steve82

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I wouldnt change formation either.442 all the way. Thats the team i would go with. Really interesting to see if Robins brings the young in form striker Bremang into the squad. Couldnt do any worse.

You are proposing a change to formation to a 442 from the 4231 we’ve gone back to in the last few games tho?




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Londonccfcfan

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You are proposing a change to formation to a 442 from the 4231 we’ve gone back to in the last few games tho?

Robins has said hes tried to be really fluid with front 4.
Difficult to see at times what system we are playing since Brights been in team. Hes been all over the field last few games.


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steve82

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The last 2 home games have been 4231 for sure, and very fluid with the 3 in behind. I’m guessing the Plymouth game was the same.

It’s working just without reward for me.


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Otis

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The last 2 home games have been 4231 for sure, and very fluid with the 3 in behind. I’m guessing the Plymouth game was the same.

It’s working just without reward for me.


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Totally agree. Would have worked like a dream if we just took even half of our chances.
 

Londonccfcfan

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Diasagree completely. The system hasnt worked, resukts dictate that. Playing one up front, plain and simple just not enough strikers or bodies in the box most of the time.

But we have bossed it in midfield, but whatever system we play its trade off to suit your personnel.
 

Otis

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Diasagree completely. The system hasnt worked, resukts dictate that. Playing one up front, plain and simple just not enough strikers or bodies in the box most of the time.

But we have bossed it in midfield, but whatever system we play its trade off to suit your personnel.
We have created more than enough very good chances to have won the last two games easily.
 

covcity4life

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yeah also when we have 2 upfront we still dont look a threat from crosses so thats no reason to change to 442 either
 

steve82

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Diasagree completely. The system hasnt worked, resukts dictate that. Playing one up front, plain and simple just not enough strikers or bodies in the box most of the time.

But we have bossed it in midfield, but whatever system we play its trade off to suit your personnel.

The same can be said during our six game unbeaten run that nothing was wrong on that theory when we played 442 which I was very much in support of at the time.

Result were coming as we had goals from a few at set pieces and Hiwula was notching but the performances were not great. We were hanging on in games for large parts, open at the back and easily opened up down the left hand side which was a weakness.

MR rightly identified this as he didn’t quite have the players to carry out a effective 442, he’s tweaked it a few times to get a balance and now reverted back to the 4231 and we look a better footballing side creating opportunities and restricting opportunities in open play. That’s a big positive for a young side.

Agree that results dictate success but we’re not far off if a few players can just hit some form in front of goal and take chances.


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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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Community day - big crowd = poor performance and heavy defeat. Can see this being the day the fans lose patience and a pretty horrific atmosphere by the end.

Team:
_________________Burge
Sterling___Hyam_____Willis/Davies____Mason
Thomas__Kelly___Bayliss/Westbrooke___Enobakhare
____________N.E.1_____A.N.Other

Not overly sure about Bright in front of Mason so maybe Shipley LM and Bright up front?

I'll be revising this at some point - wasn't expect so much deadline activity!
 

DannyThomas_1981

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Let me have a go Sky Blue dreamer - more fun I agree than usual given the activity:

_________________Burge

Sterling___Hyam_____Willis____Mason

Kelly

Wakefield Meyler___Thomas

Bright_____AB

No idea if this would work.

But I'm always a sucker for new signings (particularly with prior Premiership experience or from youth set-ups), I want to see more of AB and Bright I think has something. Bayliss first off the bench when my formation fails.

If nothing else it would be attacking and interesting. I also think Thomas should be played in a more roving role - he's been heavily marked and a little isolated out on the wings. I really hope Willis is back - we miss him. This means dropping Chaplin and Bayliss but I think they could both do with some time out.

I actually think it's been a great window for us but I'm always hopeful before seeing new signings in action.
 

Londonccfcfan

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Let me have a go Sky Blue dreamer - more fun I agree than usual given the activity:

_________________Burge

Sterling___Hyam_____Willis____Mason

Kelly

Wakefield Meyler___Thomas

Bright_____AB

No idea if this would work.

But I'm always a sucker for new signings (particularly with prior Premiership experience or from youth set-ups), I want to see more of AB and Bright I think has something. Bayliss first off the bench when my formation fails.

If nothing else it would be attacking and interesting. I also think Thomas should be played in a more roving role - he's been heavily marked and a little isolated out on the wings. I really hope Willis is back - we miss him. This means dropping Chaplin and Bayliss but I think they could both do with some time out.

I actually think it's been a great window for us but I'm always hopeful before seeing new signings in action.

Charlie chaplin will get 95 mins.
 

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