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Match Thread Coventry City - Norwich City Match Thread - Saturday 7th Oct (5 Viewers)

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Sick Boy

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  • Oct 7, 2023
  • #981
Simms and Godden do seem to have something of an understanding. Wright is starting to look like a bit of a concern with the fee paid.
 
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covcity4life

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 7, 2023
  • #982
clint van damme said:
Just admit they never worked, you were wrong to bang on all week about playing them together and we can all move on with our lives.
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Way too early to say they don't work Clint. And it was worth giving them a shot wasnt it?
 
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Ashdown

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 7, 2023
  • #983
covcity4life said:
Way too early to say they don't work Clint. And it was worth giving them a shot wasnt it?
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Yea but now we know they are inept ….to create chances you do have to be mobile and gamble as a striker and throw yourself into challenges, win headers etc ….10 million …..fuck off !
 
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BlueSkiesForever

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 7, 2023
  • #984
PVA said:
Wish no more. That exists.

We are ranked 15th for attempted take ons this season.
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Ah sound, higher than expected but bottom half just shows how little we are willing to take defences on, and I bet a lot of those are from Saka or MVE.
 

fatso

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  • Oct 7, 2023
  • #985
procdoc said:
My football views are actually respected by most on here. I have actually been involved in the game at a half decent standard whereas you haven’t actually got a clue
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You do realise that being insulted by you, is like watching the village idiot stick his tongue out.
 

Gynnsthetonic

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 7, 2023
  • #986
Sky Blue Pete said:
Not me ayari second half was very good
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Thought he looked lost the other night, had his best game today in my opinion
 
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BlueSkiesForever

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 7, 2023
  • #987
clint van damme said:
I agree were not creating enough, that's why you play your top scorer, the one who has proven he can make the best of slim pickings.

And there you go again, mentioning price tags, it's irrelevant mate. Absolutely meaningless
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Fair, the price tag thing is pretty meaningless I agree but I just think we should give them more than one chance with absolutely no service before we slate them.

As for Godden, there’s no way you can tell me that he would have scored from the same service that we provided Wright and Simms today. I’m not saying Godden is shit or deserves to never play, I’m just saying that the issue does not fall at the feet of the striker. If we give our strikers absolutely no service then you can’t expect them to score. Godden equally did very little when he came on, again because he was given no service. Yes he runs around a lot and yes it looks good but it resulted in the same outcome, no goals. We need to up our runs into the box, our take-ons of defenders, our dribbles and our 1-2 passes, that’s the issue.
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Oct 7, 2023
  • #988
Eccles gets grief for their goal but Ayari was ball watching as their player wandered into the box, even had time for a touch before scoring

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Tommo1993

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 7, 2023
  • #989
shmmeee said:
God I hate that phrase. Used purely by defenders of cloggers and shit football everywhere.
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You may hate the phrase but he contributes fuck all.
 
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procdoc

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  • Oct 7, 2023
  • #990
fatso said:
You do realise that being insulted by you, is like watching the village idiot stick his tongue out.
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You’re in the minority. I actually know about football and how tactics work. You just throw out inane cliches and then try and insult me although I’ve forgot more about football in the last 30 seconds than you’ll ever know
 

ProfessorbyGrace

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 7, 2023
  • #991
fernandopartridge said:
Eccles gets grief for their goal but Ayari was ball watching as their player wandered into the box, even had time for a touch before scoring

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Also, it was a split second decision: hoof it or try and make some space to (possibly) counter. The latter, I imagine, is probably what he’s been instructed to do.

The rest was just awful, Norwich basically walked it in. 🫣

Overall, I think we should have won it. If only Tatsu could have directed that header about 6 inches to the right. ⚽️
 
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Theonlywayisskyblue

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 7, 2023
  • #992
I actually thought today that there were some passages of play which reminded me of last season. Only some but haven’t seen much of that since Leicester. As for Norwich the guy next to me said they lacked ambition and that was a massive compliment. I haven’t seen a performance like that for a very long time. They set such a low bar it was unbelievable that the ref managed to go even lower
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 7, 2023
  • #993
Theonlywayisskyblue said:
I actually thought today that there were some passages of play which reminded me of last season. Only some but haven’t seen much of that since Leicester. As for Norwich the guy next to me said they lacked ambition and that was a massive compliment. I haven’t seen a performance like that for a very long time. They set such a low bar it was unbelievable that the ref managed to go even lower
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Nearly came away with 3 points despite that lack of ambition mind
 
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fatso

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  • Oct 7, 2023
  • #994
procdoc said:
You’re in the minority. I actually know about football and how tactics work. You just throw out inane cliches and then try and insult me although I’ve forgot more about football in the last 30 seconds than you’ll ever know
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You should be manager then, seeing as you know so much!
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 7, 2023
  • #995
fatso said:
You should be manager then, seeing as you know so much!
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He has actually managed at semi pro level
 
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skybluecam

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 7, 2023
  • #996
Wright was poor.

But there were a lot of times we'd have the ball in midfield and there would be a sea of yellow between it and the strikers. They both look like the type who want to play off the shoulder, so we need to have someone who can link them with our holding midfielders. Ayari played alright today but positionally he didn't seem to be "in the hole" much.

Also they're both big boys, Simms especially seems to struggle to turn on the ball so there's not much point him coming short for it.
 

BlueSkiesForever

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  • Oct 7, 2023
  • #997
skybluecam said:
There were a lot of times we'd have the ball in midfield and there would be a sea of yellow between it and the strikers. They both look like the type who want to play off the shoulder, so we need to have someone who can link them with our holding midfielders. Ayari played alright today but positionally he didn't seem to be "in the hole" much.

Also they're both big boys, Simms especially seems to struggle to turn on the ball so there's not much point him coming short for it.
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Absolutely bang on, Ayari plays well in spells but there’s times when there was a perfectly good ball to play to our strikers or to another incoming midfielder for a 1-2 and we instead chose to go backwards. I think when Sheaf and O’Hare are back we will play with more fluidity and we can have a proper debate on who are the best strikers to play. The one positive is when our squad is fully fit we’ll have competition for every place and hopefully that’ll spur our players on even further.
 
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Theonlywayisskyblue

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  • Oct 7, 2023
  • #998
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Nearly came away with 3 points despite that lack of ambition mind
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Fair enough but I thought it was a very odd performance from them
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 7, 2023
  • #999
Theonlywayisskyblue said:
Fair enough but I thought it was a very odd performance from them
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Two quite long away journeys for them in the space of a few days, probably some fatigue in the camp.
 

skybluecam

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 7, 2023
  • #1,000
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Two quite long away journeys for them in the space of a few days, probably some fatigue in the camp.
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Players better get used to it playing for Norwich
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 7, 2023
  • #1,001
skybluecam said:
Players better get used to it playing for Norwich
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Probably not often they'll have that scenario mind
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 7, 2023
  • #1,002
Tommo1993 said:
You may hate the phrase but he contributes fuck all.
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Then say that. In what sense is contributing fuck all a luxury?
 
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clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 7, 2023
  • #1,003
BlueSkiesForever said:
Fair, the price tag thing is pretty meaningless I agree but I just think we should give them more than one chance with absolutely no service before we slate them.

As for Godden, there’s no way you can tell me that he would have scored from the same service that we provided Wright and Simms today. I’m not saying Godden is shit or deserves to never play, I’m just saying that the issue does not fall at the feet of the striker. If we give our strikers absolutely no service then you can’t expect them to score. Godden equally did very little when he came on, again because he was given no service. Yes he runs around a lot and yes it looks good but it resulted in the same outcome, no goals. We need to up our runs into the box, our take-ons of defenders, our dribbles and our 1-2 passes, that’s the issue.
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If we give our strikers no service let's drop the striker who has been the most successful with those slim pickings?

 
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Ashdown

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 7, 2023
  • #1,004
There was loads of good service. Do the stats, look at the replays we had balls flying into their penalty area all afternoon.
 

BlueSkiesForever

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  • Oct 7, 2023
  • #1,005
clint van damme said:
If we give our strikers no service let's drop the striker who has been the most successful with those slim pickings?
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Or a better idea is we actually play proper through balls, take on defenders, pass more incisively and use the pace of our strikers to score goals, rather than settling on the idea that we’re going to give our strikers slim pickings.

I don’t mind Godden playing, my argument is nothing about wanting to see him on the bench every week, it’s about what is the absolute optimal way we can play. It’s not about trying to pick sides and shit on our own players it’s about how we can actually score goals and be more creative as a team. Maybe Godden is the best option but I don’t think we’ve explored all avenues yet. I still think the box formation is worth a go, we’ll have a fair few attacking mids when O’Hare is back, I think O’Hare and Saka/Ayari up front would be great, then it’s a choice of Wright/Godden/Simms up top.

This forum is so reactionary, one week we’re all “Ole Ole Ole” and within 4 days we’ve forgotten he got us 3 points against a solid Blackburn side. Give the players a chance.
 
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BlueSkiesForever

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  • Oct 7, 2023
  • #1,006
Ashdown said:
There was loads of good service. Do the stats, look at the replays we had balls flying into their penalty area all afternoon.
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Yeah we had balls flying around everywhere but none of it was accurate or dangerous, there were maybe 3-4 decent balls into the box but none of them aimed at a free striker, most of them defended pretty easily. I think decent service should also be a lot of balls through to feet so we can run onto them, hardly got any of that either.
 

skybluecam

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  • Oct 7, 2023
  • #1,007
Ashdown said:
There was loads of good service. Do the stats, look at the replays we had balls flying into their penalty area all afternoon.
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Very few of any quality.

and I think our strikers would prefer the ball to feet.
 

clint van damme

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  • Oct 7, 2023
  • #1,008
BlueSkiesForever said:
Or a better idea is we actually play proper through balls, take on defenders, pass more incisively and use the pace of our strikers to score goals, rather than settling on the idea that we’re going to give our strikers slim pickings.

I don’t mind Godden playing, my argument is nothing about wanting to see him on the bench every week, it’s about what is the absolute optimal way we can play. It’s not about trying to pick sides and shit on our own players it’s about how we can actually score goals and be more creative as a team. Maybe Godden is the best option but I don’t think we’ve explored all avenues yet. I still think the box formation is worth a go, we’ll have a fair few attacking mids when O’Hare is back, I think O’Hare and Saka/Ayari up front would be great, then it’s a choice of Wright/Godden/Simms up top.

This forum is so reactionary, one week we’re all “Ole Ole Ole” and within 4 days we’ve forgotten he got us 3 points against a solid Blackburn side. Give the players a chance.
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I've never seen anyone on this forum tie themselves in as many knots as you
 

slowpoke

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 7, 2023
  • #1,009
SIR ERNIE said:
He wasn't but he will because Wright was poor.
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Who was then ?
 

BlueSkiesForever

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 7, 2023
  • #1,010
clint van damme said:
I've never seen anyone on this forum tie themselves in as many knots as you
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and I’ve never seen anyone on this forum have such a stubborn, closed mind as you.

I’m bringing ideas to the table, giving players a chance, open to all sorts of possibilities, discussing the nuances of how we can play better, looking at the positives from our team going forward, yet all we get from you is how we should shit on our new strikers and talk about how Godden is the answer to all our prayers.
 
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mmttww

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  • Oct 7, 2023
  • #1,011
BlueSkiesForever said:
and I’ve never seen anyone on this forum have such a stubborn, closed mind as you.
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clint van damme

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  • Oct 7, 2023
  • #1,012
BlueSkiesForever said:
and I’ve never seen anyone on this forum have such a stubborn, closed mind as you.

I’m bringing ideas to the table, giving players a chance, open to all sorts of possibilities, discussing the nuances of how we can play better, looking at the positives from our team going forward, yet all we get from you is how we should shit on our new strikers and talk about how Godden is the answer to all our prayers.
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What a pillock, honestly listen to yourself!

'Im bringing ideas yo the table, discussing nuances' Haha!
You've been banging on all week about playing Simms and Wright, it didn't work, now you're performing mental gymnastics to try and justify calling for our top scorer to be dropped, absolute buffoon.
 
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Dirk Turpin

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  • Oct 7, 2023
  • #1,013
For all the on and off criticism of Ayari, he's a 19 year old 6m gamble from a club that recruit generally very well. If he was the finished article we wouldnt have him here on loan. He's got a bit a vision but consistency is always going to be the sticking point for a lad his age
 
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MalcSB

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  • Oct 7, 2023
  • #1,014
Dirk Turpin said:
For all the on and off criticism of Ayari, he's a 19 year old 6m gamble from a club that recruit generally very well. If he was the finished article we wouldnt have him here on loan. He's got a bit a vision but consistency is always going to be the sticking point for a lad his age
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£6m - Highway robbery.
 
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BlueSkiesForever

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  • Oct 8, 2023
  • #1,015
clint van damme said:
What a pillock, honestly listen to yourself!

'Im bringing ideas yo the table, discussing nuances' Haha!
You've been banging on all week about playing Simms and Wright, it didn't work, now you're performing mental gymnastics to try and justify calling for our top scorer to be dropped, absolute buffoon.
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I’ve spoke at length about 5 at the back, I’ve talked about various formations we could try, I’ve talked about how our midfield is the main issue we face, I’ve suggested ideas for moving Lati into midfield (which we saw today I think), I’ve talked about what sort of play style should we be aiming, are we a pressing team or are we a counter attacking side? should we play with two strikers high up the pitch? should we look at the box? etc etc. I use the word nuance because our game is exactly that, we’re so close to being a great side but something’s not quite there yet.

I’ve not heard a single thing from you other than something along the lines of “haha your idea’s shit” and “godden godden godden”. That’s literally it. All you do is come on here and talk shit either about other fans or about our players. What are you’re actually contributing to the discussion? Seems like absolutely nothing atm.

It‘s so easy to resort to calling people “buffoons” when you’ve got no original ideas of your own. I’ve tried to be amiable with you on previous posts, multiple times I’ve said things “yeah fair play, good point” or “yeah that’s fair enough but…” etc because I genuinely respect other people’s points of view. I don’t have an ounce of fucking time for people that insult others and show no respect to anyone’s ideas. If you don’t like my ideas then fine, I don’t like your ideas but I don’t insult you, just have a bit of fucking respect before you shit all over other fans ideas.

I’ve said my bit and I’ll leave it there, as I’ve said before I know it seems personal but I don’t feel anything personal against you, we just have very different views. Up to you but to save hassle I’ll avoid reacting to your comments and I’d appreciate it if you do the same to me. I can’t be arsed to keep arguing over what is effectively pointless shit. We get what Robins delivers, that’s the end of the story really.
 
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