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Match Thread Coventry City - Blackburn Rovers Match Thread - Wednesday 4th Oct (2 Viewers)

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Deleted member 9744

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  • Oct 4, 2023
  • #281
Astute said:
So we should take off the player who has less of the ball but creates more chances and scores 2 goals over the player who has more of the ball and scores no goals?

Simms for the first time with us was buzzing. His confidence was as high as it could get. But we took him off. Yes Godden is a good goal poacher. I'm happy to have him in our side. But Goddens stats for the game were over the 90 minutes. Being a striker is all about confidence. Simms gave them more problems than Godden before he was taken off. We need to give time for Simms and Wright at some stage in case Godden gets injured. Last game would have been the perfect time. This isn't saying Godden doesn't deserve his place in the side.

What it does say is however well you do you will be subbed off. How can that be right?
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But that first sentence was exactly the argument that was being used up to last week to drop Godden!
 
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Evo1883

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  • Oct 4, 2023
  • #282
Astute said:
So we should take off the player who has less of the ball but creates more chances and scores 2 goals over the player who has more of the ball and scores no goals?

Simms for the first time with us was buzzing. His confidence was as high as it could get. But we took him off. Yes Godden is a good goal poacher. I'm happy to have him in our side. But Goddens stats for the game were over the 90 minutes. Being a striker is all about confidence. Simms gave them more problems than Godden before he was taken off. We need to give time for Simms and Wright at some stage in case Godden gets injured. Last game would have been the perfect time. This isn't saying Godden doesn't deserve his place in the side.

What it does say is however well you do you will be subbed off. How can that be right?
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What !!!!!
 
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Yank

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  • Oct 4, 2023
  • #283
napolimp said:
Just having another look at his stats from Turkey, and he scored 5 in 22 when he joined Antalyaspor, and then an incredible 9 goals in 10 appearances during the season run-in. Evidence he's already had issues settling in previously?
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Yes that is the case friend. Haji has always taken a bit to settle in and I think once he does fully, he will start firing them in. He was the same when he played at Sonderjyske.

Of course everyone wanted him to bang them in a lot more by now, but again people need to be patient, and he will be just fine.
 
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Deleted member 9744

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  • Oct 4, 2023
  • #284
Yank said:
Yes that is the case friend. Haji has always taken a bit to settle in and I think once he does fully, he will start firing them in. He was the same when he played at Sonderjyske.

Of course everyone wanted him to bang them in a lot more by now, but again people need to be patient, and he will be just fine.
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He could easily have had a few more anyway. It was a good save that denied him against Leicester, and the chance against Huddersfield was nowhere near as easy as some were saying.
 
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Astute

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  • Oct 4, 2023
  • #285
Evo1883 said:
What !!!!!
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Explain yourself.

The best player on the pitch last game between Godden and Simms was Simms. How many problems did Godden give them? Godden is a goal poacher. He doesn't have the strength or speed. But he has the poachers chance. In the right place at the right time.

So again who got into the best positions and scored goals? Whose confidence was the highest in the game?

Players have good and bad games. We took off the player having the better game. Godden didn't do much after Simms went off. Do you still count taking off Simms instead of Godden was the right call?
 
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Evo1883

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  • Oct 4, 2023
  • #286
Astute said:
Explain yourself.

The best player on the pitch last game between Godden and Simms was Simms. How many problems did Godden give them? Godden is a goal poacher. He doesn't have the strength or speed. But he has the poachers chance. In the right place at the right time.

So again who got into the best positions and scored goals? Whose confidence was the highest in the game?

Players have good and bad games. We took off the player having the better game. Godden didn't do much after Simms went off. Do you still count taking off Simms instead of Godden was the right call?
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What on earth are you chatting ? I'm happy with how both played .. you've joined a chat late and picked up bits


Basically what I'm saying is if godden played like simms did , which he did Saturday the stats show this .. and godden scored 2 , fans would say he was anonymous besides the goals .. that's the argument .


I'm happy with their performances
 
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Sky Blue Harry H

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  • Oct 4, 2023
  • #287
Astute said:
It isn't Godden hate. He knows where the back of the net is. But last game other than waving his arms about he didn't do much more. One of the times he waived his arms about at Simms there was no chance of getting the ball to him. Whereas Simms caused them problems.
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Was that the move where Godden won a good flicked header to put Simms away, then carried on with a run to the edge of the 6 yard box? Thought it was a great move, and think it was more the disappointment in the finish than an expectation of a pass that caused him to wave his arms in exasperation.
 
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Deleted member 9744

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  • Oct 4, 2023
  • #288
Sky Blue Harry H said:
Was that the move where Godden won a good flicked header to put Simms away, then carried on with a run to the edge of the 6 yard box? Thought it was a great move, and think it was more the disappointment in the finish than an expectation of a pass that caused him to wave his arms in exasperation.
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I think Godden was legitimately annoyed that Simms didn't put him in for an easy goal. Genuinely other than the goals Simms had a poor match. Hopefully the goals will give him confidence though.
 

shmmeee

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  • Oct 4, 2023
  • #289
Deleted member 9744 said:
I think Godden was legitimately annoyed that Simms didn't put him in for an easy goal. Genuinely other than the goals Simms had a poor match. Hopefully the goals will give him confidence though.
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He was throwing his arms about all over the place but is as guilty as any striker for doing it himself.
 
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Deleted member 9744

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  • Oct 4, 2023
  • #290
shmmeee said:
He was throwing his arms about all over the place but is as guilty as any striker for doing it himself.
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True. Gyokeres was the same, and for a striker you want that sort of attitude at least to a degree.
 
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Astute

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  • Oct 4, 2023
  • #291
Evo1883 said:
What on earth are you chatting ? I'm happy with how both played .. you've joined a chat late and picked up bits


Basically what I'm saying is if godden played like simms did , which he did Saturday the stats show this .. and godden scored 2 , fans would say he was anonymous besides the goals .. that's the argument .


I'm happy with their performances
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Excuse me.

You're quoting me not me quoting you. I replied to you on why I would have left Simms on the pitch last game. I said nothing else. Otherwise would you like to show what else I have said?
 

Tommo1993

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  • Oct 4, 2023
  • #292
Fuck me, what a bunch of wet lettuces on that Facebook forum.
 
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Evo1883

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  • Oct 4, 2023
  • #293
Astute said:
Excuse me.

You're quoting me not me quoting you. I replied to you on why I would have left Simms on the pitch last game. I said nothing else. Otherwise would you like to show what else I have said?
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I have no idea what we are on about tbh .. I'm just getting confused with our chat

I'm happy with their performances , that's it
 

Evo1883

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  • Oct 4, 2023
  • #294
Tommo1993 said:
Fuck me, what a bunch of wet lettuces on that Facebook forum.
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What's happened ?
 
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Deleted member 9744

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  • Oct 4, 2023
  • #295
Astute said:
Excuse me.

You're quoting me not me quoting you. I replied to you on why I would have left Simms on the pitch last game. I said nothing else. Otherwise would you like to show what else I have said?
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The decision to take Simms off rather than Godden could well have been based on fitness levels rather than a reflection of performance. Also sometimes managers take a player off before the end so they get a cheer from the crowd to boost their confidence. There are a lot of factors that go into such decisions, most of which we as fans have no awareness of.
 
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Macca

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  • Oct 4, 2023
  • #296
Blackburn lost 4 in 5. How could it possibly go wrong
 
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shmmeee

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  • Oct 4, 2023
  • #297
Deleted member 9744 said:
True. Gyokeres was the same, and for a striker you want that sort of attitude at least to a degree.
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I think I can excuse Simms wanting to score a bit too much, certainly rather than than the opposite.
 
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Astute

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  • Oct 4, 2023
  • #298
Sky Blue Harry H said:
Was that the move where Godden won a good flicked header to put Simms away, then carried on with a run to the edge of the 6 yard box? Thought it was a great move, and think it was more the disappointment in the finish than an expectation of a pass that caused him to wave his arms in exasperation.
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No. Each time Simms had the ball in the area he waved his arms about. The time I stated there was defenders the the keeper covering any ball coming through.
Evo1883 said:
I have no idea what we are on about tbh .. I'm just getting confused with our chat

I'm happy with their performances , that's it
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Which is exactly what I said yet you come along jumping on my posts making out I have said something totally different.
 

Tommo1993

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  • Oct 4, 2023
  • #299
Evo1883 said:
What's happened ?
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They just don’t get humour when you tell them a suggested chant is a bag of wank.
 
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Evo1883

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  • Oct 4, 2023
  • #300
Astute said:
No. Each time Simms had the ball in the area he waved his arms about. The time I stated there was defenders the the keeper covering any ball coming through.
Which is exactly what I said yet you come along jumping on my posts making out I have said something totally different.
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Tommo1993

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  • Oct 4, 2023
  • #301
Talking of Queens Park Wankers, it was the first time I got collared for looking over my ticket age. I am 13 years over it I suppose. Better stop milking my boyish looks soon.
 
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Macca

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  • Oct 4, 2023
  • #302
Tommo1993 said:
They just don’t get humour when you tell them a suggested chant is a bag of wank.
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Even though it is. Just isn’t football making cringey songs. Just chant bollocks as usual
 

rob9872

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  • Oct 4, 2023
  • #303
Imo I'd play Godden whilst he's fit. Proven at this level and the reason he doesnt get 20 goals a season is injury and that bothers me much more than his performance that we can't get a full season out of him. He's close to a 1 in 2 striker which is gold dust at any level, so whoever said he only scores 8 or 9 that would be averaged based over the year and also every appearance that he has was a starter.

The only time I wouldnt play him currently is if we're going to one up top with an extra man in the middle as I dont think he can play that role and the other strikers appear better suited for that job.
 
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rob9872

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  • Oct 4, 2023
  • #304
Tommo1993 said:
Talking of Queens Park Wankers, it was the first time I got collared for looking over my ticket age. I am 13 years over it I suppose. Better stop milking my boyish looks soon.
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I clearly look old then as I'm 51 but didnt get challenged for my OAP
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Oct 4, 2023
  • #305
Simms was probably subbed ahead of Godden because a) Godden's atch fitness is currently higher and he can last the full 90, and b) if you're down on confidence, coming off to get the applause all to yourself after a couple of goals is probably no bad thing!
 

clint van damme

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  • Oct 4, 2023
  • #306
rob9872 said:
I clearly look old then as I'm 51 but didnt get challenged for my OAP
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Every cloud........
 
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StrettoBoy

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  • Oct 4, 2023
  • #307
Astute said:
Godden is a goal poacher. He doesn't have the strength or speed. But he has the poachers chance. In the right place at the right time.
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That's pretty much my view of Harry Kane
 

BackRoomRummermill

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  • Oct 4, 2023
  • #308
Yes 2 nil Simms with a brace
 

Finham

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  • Oct 4, 2023
  • #309
StrettoBoy said:
Everybody could run faster than Micky Quinn

He had an eye for goal though and good body strength. I liked him.
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As he always said, he was the fastest over 1 yard!
 

Sky Blue Harry H

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  • Oct 4, 2023
  • #310
rob9872 said:
I clearly look old then as I'm 51 but didnt get challenged for my OAP
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Understandable tbf Rob
 
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robbiethemole

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  • Oct 4, 2023
  • #311
I see the ref tonight is Jeremy Simpson from Lancashire, I wonder if he’ll be travelling down on their team bus? We’ll know after the first coupe of tackles go in.
 

SeaSeeEffCee

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  • Oct 4, 2023
  • #312
Sheaf on the bench tonight?
 

Astute

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  • Oct 4, 2023
  • #313
Deleted member 9744 said:
The decision to take Simms off rather than Godden could well have been based on fitness levels rather than a reflection of performance. Also sometimes managers take a player off before the end so they get a cheer from the crowd to boost their confidence. There are a lot of factors that go into such decisions, most of which we as fans have no awareness of.
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But Simms hadn't stopped running and you could see the disappointment on his face. He didn't look at all as though he is running out of gas.

All I can think....and it makes sense.....is he wants Godden to show them the way he wants them to play. My point is why take someone off who is making things happen for someone instead of someone who is a goal poacher when we already have a healthy lead. The pressure was taken off them at the back. We didn't need to score again but we needed them to be occupied by a 6'3" lump up front. The sub took the pressure off them a bit and allowed them to come at us more.

It isn't saying Simms is better than Godden. It's an observation on how the game went.
 

ccfcchris

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  • Oct 4, 2023
  • #314
I don't care who scores tbh as long as we win.
 
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baldy

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  • Oct 4, 2023
  • #315
What’s this big panicky rush to get Wright & Simms upfront together at the expense of Godden all about by some of you mouth breathers? It’s a looooong season - plenty of time ffs
 
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