Sky Blue Pete
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Great barrington people need to answer this for me. That’s not good news this will be fought in the medium to long term with effective treatment
Great barrington people need to answer this for me. That’s not good news this will be fought in the medium to long term with effective treatmentCoronavirus: Antibodies fall rapidly after COVID infection, dashing hopes of herd immunity - study
Researchers find that the number of people with antibodies in their study fell by 26% since lockdown measures were relaxed.news.sky.com
Next academic yearSo what’s everyone’s guess for when a vaccine will be widely available? As in, widely enough available that everyone can go back to work?
Spring is my optimistic hope based on absolutely no science or logistical knowledgeSo what’s everyone’s guess for when a vaccine will be widely available? As in, widely enough available that everyone can go back to work?
No massive money in feeding kids thoughCan't help pick up the hypocrisy around the free meals for kid's argument.
Enphasing that it's best delivered locally through the Extra funding to LA's ,yet T&T isn't ?
As covid19 clearly mutates and develops different strains as it circulates, any vaccine will be a seasonal "best bet" type vaccine....much like the flu jab.
A few years from now, it'll probably be rolled into one winter jab and society will adapt to accepting/dealing/living with maybe a few extra thousand deaths of the most weak and vulnerable per year than the good old pre-covid days?
It's a nasty mutating virus...and a virus is gonna virus
....cheery morning thought of the day there eh...
Its not been confirmed, and I'm sure it won't be until its passed every stage and been approved, but it has been noticeable how over the last couple of weeks multiple experts have changed from expressing caution and saying it could be months before we get a vaccine to talking about starting a roll out in December or January. For them all to have changed at the same time makes me think they know something.I’ve lost track of the vaccine stuff. Do we have a working vaccine then? If not how is everyone promising vaccines for Xmas?
Its pretty much only hospitality, theatres and similar that aren't at work isn't it?So what’s everyone’s guess for when a vaccine will be widely available? As in, widely enough available that everyone can go back to work?
Can't help pick up the hypocrisy around the free meals for kid's argument.
Enphasing that it's best delivered locally through the Extra funding to LA's ,yet T&T isn't ?
I've heard a rumour that the positive news is from the Oxford trials. Apparently because of the relation to SARs they've been able use a lot of the same research and speed up the process. This from someone in the NHS so maybe they are being prepped to get it in the coming months, as reported by the CET above.Its not been confirmed, and I'm sure it won't be until its passed every stage and been approved, but it has been noticeable how over the last couple of weeks multiple experts have changed from expressing caution and saying it could be months before we get a vaccine to talking about starting a roll out in December or January. For them all to have changed at the same time makes me think they know something.
Then a few days later you had this from Fauci:
And a leaked memo from the Eliot telling staff to be prepared for immunisation in December:Hopes rise for approval of coronavirus vaccine by end of year
US expert Dr Anthony Fauci says it should be known by early December if vaccine is safe to roll outwww.theguardian.com
Hospital at centre of revelation about coronavirus vaccine for all NHS staff
Hospital's managing director confirmed staff we on standby for a vaccinewww.coventrytelegraph.net
Wow.
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Wow.
The depressing thing is I hold no hope that this will ever be properly looked at.Kleptocracy.
I've heard a rumour that the positive news is from the Oxford trials. Apparently because of the relation to SARs they've been able use a lot of the same research and speed up the process. This from someone in the NHS so maybe they are being prepped to get it in the coming months, as reported by the CET above.
Personally I'm skeptical of vaccines as the flu mutates and there is nothing for the various common colds. Hope for an effective vaccine also nudges politicians to treat this as a short-term problem rather than medium to long-term, which has been one of the UKs mistakes.
The programme will eventually roll out to all primary school children. Due to having typically poorer hand and respiratory hygiene than adults, children tend to spread flu more easily, so protecting them is also important for protecting the rest of the population.
I've been very sceptical of a 'silver bullet' coming along to save us but the number of people who all now seem to be saying basically the same thing makes me hopeful.Personally I'm skeptical of vaccines as the flu mutates and there is nothing for the various common colds.
What makes you think that?The depressing thing is I hold no hope that this will ever be properly looked at.
YepThis is not a defence of the government but a contract value on a Contracts Finder / OJEU advert <> the actual value of a contract entered into, or the spend accrued in that contract.
That said, this is just a fucking heist isn't it?
You could maybe excuse one or two dodgy contracts back at the start of this when there was a mad scramble to get PPE in place, although even that is down to the government ignoring the recommendations in its own report. But the fact that its still happening so often months later suggests to me it is deliberate.This is not a defence of the government but a contract value on a Contracts Finder / OJEU advert <> the actual value of a contract entered into, or the spend accrued in that contract.
That said, this is just a fucking heist isn't it?
It’s really unpleasant. I’m (unfortunately, for me) quite a politically charged person and I watch this play out - what is the necessity to depress (in economic terms) the poor constantly?
No massive money in feeding kids though
Sorry, understood that in the UK everyone who could work remotely was still working remotely (I know my company is in the UK).Its pretty much only hospitality, theatres and similar that aren't at work isn't it?
Sorry, understood that in the UK everyone who could work remotely was still working remotely (I know my company is in the UK).
Might be wrong, but anyway that’s the case where I am in the US.
I am fed up of being in a tiny apartment and it’s freezing cold so I am thinking of breaking my lease and moving somewhere warmer I’m I’m going to be stuck remote. Think it’s gonna be until there’s a vaccine in reality. Just need to weigh it up
The advise is work from home if you can but its not compulsory so its down to each company to decide. For example everyone where I work can work from home but our office is open and people are going in, at the moment its voluntary but I don't think that's the case everywhere.Sorry, understood that in the UK everyone who could work remotely was still working remotely (I know my company is in the UK).
Might be wrong, but anyway that’s the case where I am in the US.
I am fed up of being in a tiny apartment and it’s freezing cold so I am thinking of breaking my lease and moving somewhere warmer I’m I’m going to be stuck remote. Think it’s gonna be until there’s a vaccine in reality. Just need to weigh it up
Sorry, understood that in the UK everyone who could work remotely was still working remotely (I know my company is in the UK).
Might be wrong, but anyway that’s the case where I am in the US.
I am fed up of being in a tiny apartment and it’s freezing cold so I am thinking of breaking my lease and moving somewhere warmer I’m I’m going to be stuck remote. Think it’s gonna be until there’s a vaccine in reality. Just need to weigh it up
The advise is work from home if you can but its not compulsory so its down to each company to decide. For example everyone where I work can work from home but our office is open and people are going in, at the moment its voluntary but I don't think that's the case everywhere.
The Health and Safety Executive directions are sufficiently vague that anyone who is asked to go in is reliant on their employer giving a shit. The advise from them is basically do what you can but if you can't maintain social distancing then its pretty much down to do whatever you think is appropriate.
At hmrc we have very few staff in offices but there are someThe UK has one of the lowest rates in Europe for returning to work. Most offices remain closed. One guy I know has been told its 3 years before they are likely to fully return to offices. Many commercial sector workers as well including accountants and also insurance companies and even the Revenue continue to work at home
Same way it always has been. Pre-covid I could have worked 100% of the time from home but was required to go into the office every day.How on earth can it be compulsory?
Kleptocracy.
Yeah seems pretty similar to NY/NJ over here. It's like - why take the risk? My company is opening at very very limited capacity and on a voluntary basis next month. Lot's of criteria though, and if you use mass transit (which most people do), you can't come in.The UK has one of the lowest rates in Europe for returning to work. Most offices remain closed. One guy I know has been told its 3 years before they are likely to fully return to offices. Many commercial sector workers as well including accountants and also insurance companies and even the Revenue continue to work at home
Any thinking on when they might get everyone back in on a compulsory basis?I work for a Pharmaceutical company and they lasted a week before getting my team back in the office. It's 50/50 home and office work and admittedly there are some things I need to be in the office for but it's 1% of the workload and I could drive in if needed.
Most of the office of 1200 are still working from home though. There's about 100 people in today judging from the carpark.
heading that way, certainly closer than most people think. The health service is the ultimate goal for any self respecting kleptocrat.
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