Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics) (24 Viewers)
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David O'Day
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DeAnna is particulary great. She ran against Nancy Pelosi this year and got about 1,8% of the vote
Brighton Sky Blue
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Alex Jones has been on recently saying that RBG died as part of a 'blood sacrifice' and was being sustained by 'satanic energy'. No point trying to persuade these people, just outnumber them at the polls
NorthernWisdom
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Not sure about this amendment to give parliament more say on coronavirus measures. Ultimately, government has access to the scientific advice, and quick decisions are needed. Plus, Johnson's moderate compared to some of the loons in his party!
I understand the need for democratic scrutiny, but not to castrate givernment's ability to act.
I understand the need for democratic scrutiny, but not to castrate givernment's ability to act.
Brighton Sky Blue
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How about they let those with some actual scientific credentials take Johnson's place in some of these decisions? Assuming any exist.
Grendel
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If only Thatcher was still here and in charge
NorthernWisdom
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Late to the party, I've already said that a few times
Brighton Sky Blue
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I would rather her than Johnson but think she'd have delighted in making millions unemployed
Grendel
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Late to the party, I've already said that a few times
Don’t think you’d like what I suspect she’d do other than the public sacking and humiliation of Matt Hancock
Grendel
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She would have done exactly the opposite
David O'Day
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Why would you want a Chemist to be in charge?
NorthernWisdom
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What I would be convinced, however, is that she'd listen to advice, take it in, and do what she thought was right.
Which is more, on each count, than I think of the current incumbent!
Brighton Sky Blue
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I'm insulted
Sky_Blue_Dreamer
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Freshers week but adding Covid to the usual chlamydia and gonorrhea
David O'Day
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I always knew you were really the ghost of Maggie Thatcher
But in all seriousness we do need to start to let the epidemiologists make the decisions.
Sky_Blue_Dreamer
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This is at least positive.
Coronavirus: UK pledges £500m to global vaccine-sharing scheme
The PM will call on world leaders to set aside differences as he sets out plans to prevent future pandemics.www.bbc.co.uk
Do wish the world had bought as a block though, rather than it being a competitive market.
Why the fuck would they want that? No money to be made without competition and the loudest voices internationally have big links to private business.
Should be WHO given the funds, buys the lot and gets it distributed.
Sky_Blue_Dreamer
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One thing you can be sure of. If it works well they'll be quick to highlight and thank the private partners involved in it. Fail and it'll just be 'the NHS'
Sky_Blue_Dreamer
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Expecting a bout of bird flu now so all turkeys have to be culled.
Unfortunately this won't extend to the turkeys in govt.
Brighton Sky Blue
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I'd prefer virologists but right now a chemist would be a significant upgrade on a crack team of PPE graduates
Sky_Blue_Dreamer
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To be fair a chemist would be a lot more use in this situation than a 3rd rate 'journalist'
chiefdave
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Do they think if they keep saying things they will magically happen? 3 millions tests a day and a vaccine that doesn't currently exist being rolled out before Xmas seems pure fantasy.
The back up plan is everyone self isolates for 2 weeks before Xmas, so what about people that need to go to work?
Sky_Blue_Dreamer
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Unless you change the type of PPE.
NorthernWisdom
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tbf, a competent PPE graduaate can take advice from experts, and listen to it.
Brighton Sky Blue
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They can but have no scientific background in what is fundamentally a scientific problem. Mind you I would also take a competent PPE grad over the ones we've got
Sky Blue Pete
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I’m getting it all completely. You are intelligent others aren’t and by saying it’s not able to upload this and that others won’t try and it won’t be as effective.
Sky Blue Pete
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5 Coronavirus Fibs You Were Told This Week
False positives, consistency and a government that seems to think no one can use the internet to look at things that happened in the recent past.
Trump video is comedy gold
Didn’t quite believe this when I was sent it yesterday but seeing as the WHO are suggesting overall fatality rate is between 0.5 and 1, would makes sense (will leave to the science bods to comment)
ps guessing this will probably be why it will be tricky to get students to tow the lockdown line
ps guessing this will probably be why it will be tricky to get students to tow the lockdown line
Brighton Sky Blue
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Without knowing the true number of cases it is hard to put a definitive % on fatality. The most credible study I have seen estimates about 0.7% factoring in asymptomatic cases but it can again only be an estimate when so many are asymptomatic. Though that fact in itself should be telling us something.
Ring Of Steel
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He seems like a nice guy- retweeting Toby Young, Allison Pearson & all excited about Andrew Neil’s new ‘fox’ style news channel
fernandopartridge
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I don't understand why something wasn't built on to the existing NHS app rather than reinventing the wheel
David O'Day
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That CDC clearly says
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The parameters in the scenarios:
- Are estimates intended to support public health preparedness and planning.
- Are not predictions of the expected effects of COVID-19.
- Do not reflect the impact of any behavioral changes, social distancing, or other interventions.
not even checked his feed. Clicked through to the link to have a quick look at where the info had come from
yeah, I read that as not predictions of what will happen in future. For all we know people who’ve had it might be impacted long into the future. I think it’s based on current data though
Agree BSB. Interesting when you see it (albeit best estimates) broken down into age ranges though
fernandopartridge
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Come on Steve. It isn't just the survival rate that needs to be considered. Of those who survive how many will require ICU, be hospitalised etc. It is utterly stupid to be blasé about any outcomes just because they're not death. I see the tweeter you've quoted has got the KBF hashtag, ie the crank badge. There were 3300 on ventilators in March, that just doesn't happen at any other time, no flu season would even get near it. This is a very serious disease with serious consequences, not for everybody but for enough people that a certain level of restriction is necessary
