Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics) (59 Viewers)

[Ring Of Steel]

Look at what they’re getting up to in Glasgow. St Andrews also imposed restrictions on students before Sturgeon even gave the order

I will.

When you look at all these things in isolation you can maybe justify the individual steps. But when you compare where the country was a few years ago and where it is now, it’s virtually bloody unrecognisable- how it ended up like this I don’t know, but I would suggest that this is a pretty dark time in our modern history & god knows what happens next.

 

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[Grendel]

Sturgeon will always try and look tougher and stricter than Westminster - a blanket ban of all students in Scotland to go out into the community regardless of infections is extraordinary - armies will soon be patrolling campuses

 

[skybluetony176]

Sturgeon will always try and look tougher and stricter than Westminster - a blanket ban of all students in Scotland to go out into the community regardless of infections is extraordinary - armies will soon be patrolling campuses

Russian ones again?

 

[Sick Boy]

Sturgeon will always try and look tougher and stricter than Westminster - a blanket ban of all students in Scotland to go out into the community regardless of infections is extraordinary - armies will soon be patrolling campuses

Got to say that I wouldn’t be surprised to see the army out patrolling the streets in general soon by the sounds of it, very worrying times.

 

[NorthernWisdom]

Locking kids up in University Halls and not allowing them home is a fresh kind of hell.

I dunno, would have sounded great when I was 18

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

I will.

When you look at all these things in isolation you can maybe justify the individual steps. But when you compare where the country was a few years ago and where it is now, it’s virtually bloody unrecognisable- how it ended up like this I don’t know, but I would suggest that this is a pretty dark time in our modern history & god knows what happens next.

The point I’m making is when the Scottish nationalists bang on about ‘we are more socially conscious’ and ‘Westminster is the root of all evil’ that they are doing the same if not worse.

 

[Grendel]

The point I’m making is when the Scottish nationalists bang on about ‘we are more socially conscious’ and ‘Westminster is the root of all evil’ that they are doing the same if not worse.

Sturgeon would love the opportunity to wear army gear and dictate policy - the Scots must be mad to want her in power

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Sturgeon would love the opportunity to wear army gear and dictate policy - the Scots must be mad to want her in power

Don’t be fooled, they still can’t get over half the vote but the problem is the pro UK vote being split 3 ways

 

[Grendel]

This will be a telling week, if the opposition parties side with the government on this it’s very sinister times

MPs move to require vote on future Covid restrictions

More than 40 cross-party MPs support amendment amid brewing revolt over extension of emergency laws

www.google.co.uk

 

[skybluetony176]

Sturgeon would love the opportunity to wear army gear and dictate policy - the Scots must be mad to want her in power

Does the Scottish devolved government even have the power to deploy the British Army? I think that’s the domain of the British government isn’t it. Your fantasy about seeing Sturgeon in khaki is obviously related to other issues.

 

[wingy]

Take it to the appropriate thread please .
You know the one for politics!

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Take it to the appropriate thread please .
You know the one for politics!

Covid and politics are heavily intertwined whether we like it or not.

 

[NorthernWisdom]

Take it to the appropriate thread please .
You know the one for politics!

While on one level I agree, on the other this is titled

Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics)

 

[Grendel]

Covid and politics are heavily intertwined whether we like it or not.

The virus is being used a weapon to remove civil liberties

 

[wingy]

Covid and politics are heavily intertwined whether we like it or not.

If you wish to talk about Scottish independence there is a politics thread.
Or the potential toppling of the PM it is also there for that .
This thread isn't for dramatic hyperbole.

 

[NorthernWisdom]

Anyway Coventry and Rugby galloping along with cases. Both are far outstripping Cardiff, that's hit local lockdown time

 

[wingy]

The virus is being used a weapon to remove civil liberties

Did you go to London yesterday?

 

[Grendel]

Anyway Coventry and Rugby galloping along with cases. Both are far outstripping Cardiff, that's hit local lockdown time

What’s the rate - is it time to put red crosses on doors?

 

[Macca]

I dunno, would have sounded great when I was 18

only if there was enough beer and fray bentos in the fridge

 

[clint van damme]

The virus is being used a weapon to remove civil liberties

I get the need for this as we are in an unprecedented situation but to not give parliament the chance to debate proposed measures is sinister, you're right.

 

[wingy]

While on one level I agree, on the other this is titled

Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics)

I think it got amended from the original .

 

[Macca]

I’m not a Covid denier but I still think that the government has used it to comfort itself over just how much control it has over the people. And you have to say that the people seem more compliant than ever before. Maybe the brainwashing of social media supports this

 

[Grendel]

I get the need for this as we are in an unprecedented situation but to not give parliament the chance to debate proposed measures is sinister, you're right.

On a global scale the situation is hardly unprecedented

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

The virus is being used a weapon to remove civil liberties

I don’t know how that squares up with a libertarian PM

 

[NorthernWisdom]

I get the need for this as we are in an unprecedented situation but to not give parliament the chance to debate proposed measures is sinister, you're right.

I dunno, I can fully see why government has to move quickly, and has the full scientific advice at its hands - it's just who's been elected that's the issue!

Maybe the compromise is to be allowed to debate all measures, but allow government to act first? If they're valid measures, they'd get enough support from the opposition to keep them in place, regardless if extremist Tories.

 

[Grendel]

I don’t know how that squares up with a libertarian PM

Sadly Johnson is hardly a conviction politician and is obsessed with opinion polls like all modern day leaders. That’s why Thatcher would have been the best leader as she cared not a hoot about public opinion and would get her judgement on Election Day

 

[clint van damme]

I dunno, I can fully see why government has to move quickly, and has the full scientific advice at its hands - it's just who's been elected that's the issue!

Maybe the compromise is to be allowed to debate all measures, but allow government to act first? If they're valid measures, they'd get enough support from the opposition to keep them in place, regardless if extremist Tories.

Your suggested compromise seems fair though referring to your first paragraph I don't think anyone who was elected is behind any of this!

 

[wingy]

Everyone wants liberty and freedom .
So go catch it.
Especially if it is harmless to yourselves .
Do it in cluster's ,say across all uni campuses and across all schools at half term then you are released to eternal liberty and freedom .
That's quite a portion of population that are the future all with some form of resistance to future harm .

 

[Grendel]

Your suggested compromise seems fair though referring to your first paragraph I don't think anyone who was elected is behind any of this!

It’s ridiculous as it’s accepting we can scrap all peace time norms. This is not a wartime situation despite the rhetoric and kills a minute percentage of the country

 

[skybluetony176]

The virus is being used a weapon to remove civil liberties

Much like Brexit then.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Sadly Johnson is hardly a conviction politician and is obsessed with opinion polls like all modern day leaders. That’s why Thatcher would have been the best leader as she cared not a hoot about public opinion and would get her judgement on Election Day

I want him to put his money where his mouth is on ‘schools are safe’ and allow us to work unrestricted. If they are then I shouldn’t have to behave like a surgeon each time I enter a classroom

 

[skybluetony176]

This is not a wartime situation despite the rhetoric

Much like Brexit then

 

[Grendel]

I want him to put his money where his mouth is on ‘schools are safe’ and allow us to work unrestricted. If they are then I shouldn’t have to behave like a surgeon each time I enter a classroom

I agree and I’m sure he agrees but will not dare to offend people obsessed with fear and has a masochistic mentality of behaviour

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

I agree and I’m sure he agrees but will not dare to offend people obsessed with fear and has a masochistic mentality of behaviour

Is there not also a secondary problem from a large trench of Conservative voters being elderly?

 

[NorthernWisdom]

Most people support new lockdown rules | YouGov

A snap YouGov poll finds more than three quarters in favour of the new restrictions

yougov.co.uk

It's the medical advice that should lead anyway. Not me, or anybody else.