He seems like a nice guy- retweeting Toby Young, Allison Pearson & all excited about Andrew Neil’s new ‘fox’ style news channel
He seems like a nice guy- retweeting Toby Young, Allison Pearson & all excited about Andrew Neil’s new ‘fox’ style news channel
That CDC clearly says
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The parameters in the scenarios:
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- Are estimates intended to support public health preparedness and planning.
- Are not predictions of the expected effects of COVID-19.
- Do not reflect the impact of any behavioral changes, social distancing, or other interventions.
Without knowing the true number of cases it is hard to put a definitive % on fatality. The most credible study I have seen estimates about 0.7% factoring in asymptomatic cases but it can again only be an estimate when so many are asymptomatic. Though that fact in itself should be telling us something.
Come on Steve. It isn't just the survival rate that needs to be considered. Of those who survive how many will require ICU, be hospitalised etc. It is utterly stupid to be blasé about any outcomes just because they're not death. I see the tweeter you've quoted has got the KBF hashtag, ie the crank badge. There were 3300 on ventilators in March, that just doesn't happen at any other time, no flu season would even get near it. This is a very serious disease with serious consequences, not for everybody but for enough people that a certain level of restriction is necessaryDidn’t quite believe this when I was sent it yesterday but seeing as the WHO are suggesting overall fatality rate is between 0.5 and 1, would makes sense (will leave to the science bods to comment)
ps guessing this will probably be why it will be tricky to get students to tow the lockdown line
Agree BSB. Interesting when you see it (albeit best estimates) broken down into age ranges though
not even checked his feed. Clicked through to the link to have a quick look at where the info had come from
Come on Steve. It isn't just the survival rate that needs to be considered. Of those who survive how many will require ICU, be hospitalised etc. It is utterly stupid to be blasé about any outcomes just because they're not death. I see the tweeter you've quoted has got the KBF hashtag, ie the crank badge. There were 3300 on ventilators in March, that just doesn't happen at any other time, no flu season would even get near it. This is a very serious disease with serious consequences, not for everybody but for enough people that a certain level of restriction is necessary
I'm not convinced by 95% survival for 70+ based on the proportion of deaths in that group but I'm willing to have a deeper look. I can very much believe the figures at the younger end of the spectrum though. For comparison influenza has about 0.1% death rate so COVID is worse, but then again I've never heard of people with 'asymptomatic flu' whereas every time you hear of football clubs with cases they never seem to have symptoms
This type of irresponsible crap just makes it likely to be even longer before any kind of normality can return.
cheers BSB. As I said in the post, wouldn’t mind a scientists view on the numbers
OK, it wasn't so much you being blasé more the tweeter. I'm worried about parents of a similar age with underlying health problems (as most people in their 70s have got).As I mentioned to ROS never seen the feed before or read it. Just clicked the link. My comment was tying it back into the exchange i had with NW last night about trying to get students to follow lockdown measures (Edit - not being blasé at all as I’ve mentioned numerous times I’ve been doing my best to ensure my mum (asthma) and step dad (heart condition) both in 70s, shield during this nightmare !)
OK, it wasn't so much you being blasé more the tweeter. I'm worried about parents of a similar age with underlying health problems (as most people in their 70s have got).
HAHA! The masked singer was part of the Covid conspiracy!!
Hows it irresponsible ?! (ignore the idiot who’s feed it’s from, I’m talking about the data from CDC)
ps my mate said he’d seen the figures mentioned on sky news yesterday. The data is the data (as long as its not flawed). I hope the numbers are as stated or better as it means anyone catching it has a better chance of survival, that’s not irresponsible it’s trying to live with some optimism
Professor Sir Jonathan Montgomery, former chair of the ethics advisory board for the first edition of the app, said: "This is clearly a glitch. I imagine it won't be that difficult to sort out, and the focus is on making sure the system is integrated.
"If they book the tests with the system they can feed them back into the app, clearly we haven't yet got it right in terms of the other parts of the testing system being able to feed in and we would expect that to be sorted pretty quickly."
Seems like it should be sorted pretty soon
Yep so it needs a validation code arrangementThe issue is the app asks for a code to validate your results as you enter them yourself, the NHS and PHE test results do not have a validation code for the app.
I do wish people including so call experts would actually take 5 fucking minutes to actual find out what the problem is. It's in teh fucking original thread on twitter.
Yep so it needs a validation code arrangement
I’m not I’m saying it will still help and these problems will be sorted very quicklyWhich is more than just feeding data into an app. Amazing that you are ok with the governments tracking and tracing app not being able to able to track and trace potentially a third of all cases and contacts.
The Marr show today and David Lammy refuses to answer if labour will back the Brady amendment which is rumoured to have the support of 40 to 50 Tory Mps - labour seem to be acting as Tory cabinet groupies
Locking kids up in University Halls and not allowing them home is a fresh kind of hell.
It’s akin to the type of approach a Russian Stalinist state would do
It’s insane what has been done. Really crazy knowing what we did about the likelihood of more cases.Locking kids up in University Halls and not allowing them home is a fresh kind of hell.
The Marr show today and David Lammy refuses to answer if labour will back the Brady amendment which is rumoured to have the support of 40 to 50 Tory Mps - labour seem to be acting as Tory cabinet groupies
It is very sinisterIt’s akin to the type of approach a Russian Stalinist state would do
Should have seen the effect of schools and then started uni later. Also as Grendel and others have said on here. If it doesn’t cause issues with particular groups how can we allow them to carry on as normal and protect more vulnerable groupsIt’s insane what has been done. Really crazy knowing what we did about the likelihood of more cases.
This is the same group of arse holes who wouldn't accept it when Corbyn did it over Brexit, which has put the car in the fast lane to no deal.They're taking the never interrupt your enemy while they're making a mistake mantra to a whole new level.
Should have seen the effect of schools and then started uni later. Also as Grendel and others have said on here. If it doesn’t cause issues with particular groups how can we allow them to carry on as normal and protect more vulnerable groups
This is the same group of arse holes who wouldn't accept it when Corbyn did it over Brexit, which has put the car in the fast lane to no deal.
They have no ideology apart from what they think might win an election. To be perfectly honest that is much worse than the Tories as it is a huge betrayal of their voter base.
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