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wingy

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  • Sep 18, 2020
  • #31,886
What are the localised numbers like this week.
Ward by ward/postcode doesn't seem to be loading on CT site.
 

Alan Dugdales Moustache

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 18, 2020
  • #31,887
What is really annoying about this inevitable second lockdown is that me and millions of others around the country stuck to the rules from lockdown all the way through. And for what ? It's all been for nothing .
Hancock may be hated for what he says, but Cummings I hate for what he did . Some of what's happening now is down to him.
 
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Alan Dugdales Moustache

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  • Sep 18, 2020
  • #31,888
dubed said:
It would be nice to think that the guy would be given a minimum of 5 years for this.
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I'd give him an appropriate sentence for attempted murder. 5 years isn't enough. Mind you what do rapists and other serious offenders get these days ?
 
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David O'Day

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  • Sep 18, 2020
  • #31,889
wingy said:
What are the localised numbers like this week.
Ward by ward/postcode doesn't seem to be loading on CT site.
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the latest 7 day total which is the 7 days up to the 15th is 31 per 100k.

4 weeks ago this would of been borderline lockdown but it's just over a quarter of places like Liverpool and Bolton
 
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Ian1779

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  • Sep 18, 2020
  • #31,890
Alan Dugdales Moustache said:
What is really annoying about this inevitable second lockdown is that me and millions of others around the country stuck to the rules from lockdown all the way through. And for what ? It's all been for nothing .
Hancock may be hated for what he says, but Cummings I hate for what he did . Some of what's happening now is down to him.
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IMO Hancock is utterly disingenuous but he’s also completely out of his depth. Cummings is a deceptive c*** that thinks his needs outweigh the needs of everyone else in the population.
 
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Alan Dugdales Moustache

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  • Sep 18, 2020
  • #31,891
Ian1779 said:
IMO Hancock is utterly disingenuous but he’s also completely out of his depth. Cummings is a deceptive c*** that thinks his needs outweigh the needs of everyone else in the population.
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The problem I have with Hancock is that he has no expression in his face or voice, like that of a mass murderer or the butcher of some 1940s concentration camp. It's almost ghoulish.
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Sep 18, 2020
  • #31,892
I think we have to face the inevitability of this looking at Spain and France. Where’s the creative answers to this once in a generation issue?
 

Alan Dugdales Moustache

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 18, 2020
  • #31,893
Until we have a vaccine we have to live with this virus . It's going to flare up, die down and then flare up again. At the moment we're trying to plug holes in a leaking bath only for it to spring more leaks elsewhere. All shutting down this city, that area will do is slow the spread, but the spread will continue all the same .

I think in the end only a short sharp national lockdown will work. It has to be over a half term to coincide with half term, but it has to be for at least two weeks .

The experts are predicting the peak of this second wave could be Xmas week.
Happy yuletide everyone.
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Sep 18, 2020
  • #31,894
Alan Dugdales Moustache said:
Until we have a vaccine we have to live with this virus . It's going to flare up, die down and then flare up again. At the moment we're trying to plug holes in a leaking bath only for it to spring more leaks elsewhere. All shutting down this city, that area will do is slow the spread, but the spread will continue all the same .

I think in the end only a short sharp national lockdown will work. It has to be over a half term to coincide with half term, but it has to be for at least two weeks .

The experts are predicting the peak of this second wave could be Xmas week.
Happy yuletide everyone.
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That’s not a bad idea that’s the creative kind of stuff we need
 

chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 18, 2020
  • #31,895
Alan Dugdales Moustache said:
I think in the end only a short sharp national lockdown will work. It has to be over a half term to coincide with half term, but it has to be for at least two weeks .
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Its about 5 weeks to half term isn't it? With cases doubling every 7 to 8 days would it not be better to do it sooner rather than later?
 

Alan Dugdales Moustache

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  • Sep 18, 2020
  • #31,896
chiefdave said:
Its about 5 weeks to half term isn't it? With cases doubling every 7 to 8 days would it not be better to do it sooner rather than later?
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Probably. The sooner the better . Perhaps a 3 week shutdown starting two weeks before half term. I'm making this up really . Gut feeling and all that. Can't be worse than any plans the govt currently have.
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Sep 18, 2020
  • #31,897
With the Xmas thing I wonder if they'll be suggesting not to send cards/presents just in case. Certainly telling people not to lick the envelopes anyway.
 
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Alan Dugdales Moustache

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  • Sep 18, 2020
  • #31,898
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
With the Xmas thing I wonder if they'll be suggesting not to send cards/presents just in case. Certainly telling people not to lick the envelopes anyway.
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That's a good point. You can bet they won't until around Christmas Eve. I'm going to buy everyone a packet of face masks for Christmas.
 

Alan Dugdales Moustache

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  • Sep 18, 2020
  • #31,899
Evo1883 said:
Israel having a 3 week national lockdown
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That's surely what we have to do. All this shutting down bits and pieces isn't going to work. Leicester virus is already on the rise again . I can imagine a ridiculous situation in a couple of months where every single part of the UK has, at some point, been in a second shutdown and then the cycle continues again.
Shut the country down asap. Short , sharp total shutdown.
 
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Sep 18, 2020
  • #31,900
Alan Dugdales Moustache said:
That's surely what we have to do. All this shutting down bits and pieces isn't going to work. Leicester virus is already on the rise again . I can imagine a ridiculous situation in a couple of months where every single part of the UK has, at some point, been in a second shutdown and then the cycle continues again.
Shut the country down asap. Short , sharp total shutdown.
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But I think their plan due to economic concerns is to just look at local rates to stop local healthcare services getting overwhelmed.

Trouble is at some point it's going to be rising everywhere and as soon as you open somewhere up again the rates will rise rapidly. Only as strong as it's weakest link.

We may end up with so many local lockdowns they're effectively a national one. But at least that way any complaints about lockdown and the economic impact govt can try and fob it off on local authorities. After blaming the public of course.
 

Alan Dugdales Moustache

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  • Sep 18, 2020
  • #31,901
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
But I think their plan due to economic concerns is to just look at local rates to stop local healthcare services getting overwhelmed.

Trouble is at some point it's going to be rising everywhere and as soon as you open somewhere up again the rates will rise rapidly. Only as strong as it's weakest link.

We may end up with so many local lockdowns they're effectively a national one. But at least that way any complaints about lockdown and the economic impact govt can try and fob it off on local authorities. After blaming the public of course.
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Yes I agree . I think a 3 week total lockdown would be the best way to suppress the spread but I think the economic impact is something that is going to prevent it. We will undoubtedly end up with most of the country shut down without it officially being a shut down . It'll just mean the virus won't be suppressed as quickly nor will the numbers fall back as far as they should, in which case these regional shutdowns are here to stay permanently. Bugger.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Sep 18, 2020
  • #31,902
skybluetony176 said:
Basically think of any type of c**t. That’s Matt Hancock.
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Matt Hanc**t
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Sep 19, 2020
  • #31,903
The figure for Rugby is getting ominously large
 

Alan Dugdales Moustache

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  • Sep 19, 2020
  • #31,904
shmmeee said:
Matt Hanc**t
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How bloody childish are you .

Fat Mancock
Matt Cockface.
 
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Alan Dugdales Moustache

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  • Sep 19, 2020
  • #31,905
Deleted member 5849 said:
The figure for Rugby is getting ominously large
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Is it ? What's the score there ?
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Sep 19, 2020
  • #31,906
Alan Dugdales Moustache said:
Is it ? What's the score there ?
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57 per 100k
 

Alan Dugdales Moustache

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  • Sep 19, 2020
  • #31,907
Deleted member 5849 said:
57 per 100k
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Pardon my ignorance but do you know at what stage a lockdown kicks in on that scale ? That sounds quite high. Mind you , I bet most towns and cities are pretty high now.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Sep 19, 2020
  • #31,908
Alan Dugdales Moustache said:
Pardon my ignorance but do you know at what stage a lockdown kicks in on that scale ? That sounds quite high.
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I had a look at Newcastle, which is c. 70-ish.

I guess the next week is key.
 

Ian1779

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  • Sep 19, 2020
  • #31,909
Deleted member 5849 said:
57 per 100k
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Is there a test shortage there too?
 

clint van damme

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  • Sep 19, 2020
  • #31,910
Alan Dugdales Moustache said:
The experts are predicting the peak of this second wave could be Xmas week.
Happy yuletide everyone.
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on the plus side think of all the visits/visitors you really cant be arsed with that you'll be able to avoid.
 
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Ian1779

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  • Sep 19, 2020
  • #31,911
Alan Dugdales Moustache said:
Probably. The sooner the better . Perhaps a 3 week shutdown starting two weeks before half term. I'm making this up really . Gut feeling and all that. Can't be worse than any plans the govt currently have.
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I think a couple of shutdowns centred around half-term and Xmas that could be bolted on to the original holidays could help and would minimise the time out of school.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Sep 19, 2020
  • #31,912
Ian1779 said:
I think a couple of shutdowns centred around half-term and Xmas that could be bolted on to the original holidays could help and would minimise the time out of school.
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Cut the summer holiday a little to compensate, if needs be.
 

Ian1779

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  • Sep 19, 2020
  • #31,913
Deleted member 5849 said:
Cut the summer holiday a little to compensate, if needs be.
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Well that very much depends on if you expect home learning to continue or not.
 

David O'Day

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  • Sep 19, 2020
  • #31,914
clint van damme said:
on the plus side think of all the visits/visitors you really cant be arsed with that you'll be able to avoid.
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Thank fuck
 

Grendel

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  • Sep 19, 2020
  • #31,915
Alan Dugdales Moustache said:
Pardon my ignorance but do you know at what stage a lockdown kicks in on that scale ? That sounds quite high. Mind you , I bet most towns and cities are pretty high now.
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You wouldnt notice any difference if they closed the town centre anyway
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Sep 19, 2020
  • #31,916
Deleted member 5849 said:
57 per 100k
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I’m sure I read the rate in some areas of Madrid were over 1000 per 100000
 

skybluetony176

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  • Sep 19, 2020
  • #31,917
Sorry. But they need to shut pubs and gyms again. And as a result of the main demographic that seems to be spreading it. Close the schools vs closing pubs and gyms doesn’t really need discussion. It’s ultimately our children that are the generation that’s going to have to pay the biggest price of this pandemic regardless so let’s at least give them the best possible education under the circumstances to do that.
 
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clint van damme

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  • Sep 19, 2020
  • #31,918
skybluetony176 said:
Sorry. But they need to shut pubs and gyms again. And as a result of the main demographic that seems to be spreading it. Close the schools vs closing pubs and gyms doesn’t really need discussion. It’s ultimately our children that are the generation that’s going to have to pay the biggest price of this pandemic regardless so let’s at least give them the best possible education under the circumstances to do that.
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To be fair, I was at the gym yexterday and they see. To be trying to do everything right to keep the environment safe. A couple of local pubs I could name however........
 
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Nick

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  • Sep 19, 2020
  • #31,919
skybluetony176 said:
Sorry. But they need to shut pubs and gyms again. And as a result of the main demographic that seems to be spreading it. Close the schools vs closing pubs and gyms doesn’t really need discussion. It’s ultimately our children that are the generation that’s going to have to pay the biggest price of this pandemic regardless so let’s at least give them the best possible education under the circumstances to do that.
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Have you been in a gym?

My gym is cleaner than most hospitals. Bottles of spray and wipes next to everything and people cleaning after use as well as staff doing laps cleaning.
 
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ajsccfc

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  • Sep 19, 2020
  • #31,920
I think for the most part gyms are ok, pubs try to be but you can't account for people's behaviour with booze at the best of times so they'd be first in my list
 
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