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wingy

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  • Jun 9, 2020
  • #27,616
23andMe finds evidence that blood type plays a role in COVID-19 - 23andMe Blog
 

chiefdave

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  • Jun 9, 2020
  • #27,617
Another u-turn incoming. Be interesting to see what those that were desperately defending the governments plan to re-open schools while the likes of scientists and teachers said it was wrong make of this.
Education Secretary Gavin Williamson has confirmed in the House of Commons that the UK government is not going ahead with its plan to see all English primary school pupils return to classes for four weeks before the current term ends in July.
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jun 9, 2020
  • #27,618
chiefdave said:
Another u-turn incoming. Be interesting to see what those that were desperately defending the governments plan to re-open schools while the likes of scientists and teachers said it was wrong make of this.
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The plan was simply not possible in a good number of primary schools with the lack of space. Some will be able to, and I think in July those who can socially distance everyone should re-open, but I've no idea how many this applies to.
 

David O'Day

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  • Jun 9, 2020
  • #27,619
Brighton Sky Blue said:
The plan was simply not possible in a good number of primary schools with the lack of space. Some will be able to, and I think in July those who can socially distance everyone should re-open, but I've no idea how many this applies to.
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People seemed to forget that countries like Denmark have much better and newer school infrastructure.

If only the tories had not cancelled the building schools for the future fund
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jun 9, 2020
  • #27,620
David O'Day said:
People seemed to forget that countries like Denmark have much better and newer school infrastructure.

If only the tories had not cancelled the building schools for the future fund
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My all time record was a class size of 37 in a room built for 30.
 

hill83

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  • Jun 9, 2020
  • #27,621
chiefdave said:
Another u-turn incoming. Be interesting to see what those that were desperately defending the governments plan to re-open schools while the likes of scientists and teachers said it was wrong make of this.
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Wankers playing games with my kids life. No chance I was sending him in. I might be being a bit extreme but I don't give a fuck. Fuck them.
 
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wingy

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  • Jun 9, 2020
  • #27,622
Coronavirus 'in Scotland earlier than thought'

The travel advice through February was severely lacking .
 

pipkin73

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  • Jun 9, 2020
  • #27,623
clint van damme said:
Are they after a complete reopening or reduced capacity?
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Not been stated mate, just opening back up to supporters.
 
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pipkin73

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  • Jun 9, 2020
  • #27,624
fernandopartridge said:
They play in blue and white. Reminds me actually, the time I came to meet you to watch the Sunderland match the cab driver said I looked like Vinny Samways, who played for them. Ha ha ha.
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They play in blue and Yellow, Yellow being the strong colour. Get your ass back here and let's watch a game, live footy (City back in the Championship confirmed) wish i had the money to go out and celebrate, still i've had 4 pints of larger and 2 pints of Vodka and Lemonade and got 6 cans back at home, friends have been buying me drinks all day.
City get promoted, i get free drinks all day, free food and loads of laughs. Wish every day was like this, if it was i would never need to work lol
 
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chiefdave

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  • Jun 9, 2020
  • #27,625
Having said that zoo's couldn't open as it wasn't safe after another u-turn it seems zoo's are safe to open.
Coronavirus: Boris Johnson to announce zoos can reopen in latest easing of lockdown
Is anyone still pretending we're 'following the science'?
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jun 9, 2020
  • #27,626
Infections inching back up and nowhere near Italy France Spain Germany and 286 deaths. Long way to go for us I fear
 

Brylowes

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  • Jun 10, 2020
  • #27,627
Skybluefaz said:
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My god she’s a drip.
 

SkyBlueDom26

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  • Jun 10, 2020
  • #27,628
chiefdave said:
Having said that zoo's couldn't open as it wasn't safe after another u-turn it seems zoo's are safe to open.
Coronavirus: Boris Johnson to announce zoos can reopen in latest easing of lockdown
Is anyone still pretending we're 'following the science'?
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We need to get them open, do you want them all to close for good or something? Weird mindset that is
 

David O'Day

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  • Jun 10, 2020
  • #27,629
SkyBlueDom26 said:
We need to get them open, do you want them all to close for good or something? Weird mindset that is
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No Dim, we want them to open once safe
 

Ian1779

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  • Jun 10, 2020
  • #27,630
SkyBlueDom26 said:
We need to get them open, do you want them all to close for good or something? Weird mindset that is
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No it’s not - it’s merely wanting things to open and return safely so we don’t have to lock up all over again. This hap-hazard approach that is not consistent with their OWN plan and guidance puts a return to normality at risk the most.
 

ajsccfc

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  • Jun 10, 2020
  • #27,631
Dom, when people jump on you for being enthusiastic about numbers coming down they're dead wrong about you celebrating death or whatever the accusation may be, similarly when you jump on people who don't want everything suddenly open it also doesn't mean they want everything closed forever.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jun 10, 2020
  • #27,632
ajsccfc said:
Dom, when people jump on you for being enthusiastic about numbers coming down they're dead wrong about you celebrating death or whatever the accusation may be, similarly when you jump on people who don't want everything suddenly open it also doesn't mean they want everything closed forever.
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Yup. FWIW I think both announcements (schools and museums) are positive things as they've listened to the advice and entreaties of people, and been prepared to change their minds. Not going to have a go at them for that myself.

But yeah, not thinking people who think otherwise are desperate for zoos to be closed for all eternity
 

hill83

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  • Jun 10, 2020
  • #27,633
ajsccfc said:
Dom, when people jump on you for being enthusiastic about numbers coming down they're dead wrong about you celebrating death or whatever the accusation may be, similarly when you jump on people who don't want everything suddenly open it also doesn't mean they want everything closed forever.
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OMG you want everything closed 4eva AND love it that everyone is dying all the time
 

Ian1779

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  • Jun 10, 2020
  • #27,634
SkyBlueDom26 said:
We need to get them open, do you want them all to close for good or something? Weird mindset that is
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The amount of published deaths in hospital yesterday is equivalent to an ENTIRE average sized primary school.
 
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PVA

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  • Jun 10, 2020
  • #27,635
People finally starting to realise what they voted for.

I wonder if Grendel is still boasting about Johnson having the best approval rating of all time.

 
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PVA

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  • Jun 10, 2020
  • #27,636
SkyBlueDom26 said:
We need to get them open, do you want them all to close for good or something? Weird mindset that is
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Why do you seem to think that the only two options for just about everything are either open them immediately or close them forever?

It' so weird. You realise there is quite a big gap in between those two choices with plenty of options?
 
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SBAndy

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  • Jun 10, 2020
  • #27,637
PVA said:
Why do you seem to think that the only two options for just about everything are either open them immediately or close them forever?

It' so weird. You realise there is quite a big gap in between those two choices with plenty of options?
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Binary Dom.
 

hill83

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  • Jun 10, 2020
  • #27,638
SBAndy said:
Binary Dom.
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OMG you want ternary to be killed 4eva
 
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David O'Day

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  • Jun 10, 2020
  • #27,639
PVA said:
People finally starting to realise what they voted for.

I wonder if Grendel is still boasting about Johnson having the best approval rating of all time.

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Boris was fuckinmg gash at PMQs again even when hit with non coronavirus questions
 

skybluetony176

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  • Jun 10, 2020
  • #27,640
PVA said:
People finally starting to realise what they voted for.

I wonder if Grendel is still boasting about Johnson having the best approval rating of all time.

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Not that he ever did. It was always a my dad is harder than your dad argument from Grendull.
 

chiefdave

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  • Jun 10, 2020
  • #27,641
SkyBlueDom26 said:
We need to get them open, do you want them all to close for good or something? Weird mindset that is
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No I don't want them to close for good. If you look back over this thread you'll see I posted a few days ago, when zoos were told by the government that they would't be able to open as planned, questioning the decision.

The issue is that we're supposed to be following the science. So why do they keep making public announcements and then when there's a backlash change their mind? Its not just on issues related to coronavirus either, they do it with everything, if not formal announcements things are leaked out in advance to gauge the response. Its weak government and the last thing we need in a time of crisis.
 

David O'Day

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  • Jun 10, 2020
  • #27,642
as this the genetral politics thread now Johnson was equally awful on Child Poiverty and the windrush scandal
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Jun 10, 2020
  • #27,643
chiefdave said:
No I don't want them to close for good. If you look back over this thread you'll see I posted a few days ago, when zoos were told by the government that they would't be able to open as planned, questioning the decision.

The issue is that we're supposed to be following the science. So why do they keep making public announcements and then when there's a backlash change their mind? Its not just on issues related to coronavirus either, they do it with everything, if not formal announcements things are leaked out in advance to gauge the response. Its weak government and the last thing we need in a time of crisis.
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I've no problem with them changing their minds. The backtrack on school opening is welcome as I feared they'd just plough ahead regardless.

But it should be being done because the science and evidence had changed. At the moment stuff is touted as opening up due to ideology and then change their mind due to unpopularity. There's no plan to follow it's all just ad hoc off-the-cuff stuff.
 
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wingy

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  • Jun 10, 2020
  • #27,644
How long is it until a reshuffle?
Have no Idea of what the quality is among the ranks but I'd expect 2-3 of the larger portfolios changing.
Trouble is they lost a few sane one's after the election.
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Jun 10, 2020
  • #27,645
wingy said:
How long is it until a reshuffle?
Have no Idea of what the quality is among the ranks but I'd expect 2-3 of the larger portfolios changing.
Trouble is they lost a few sane one's after the election.
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Rearranging deckchairs on the Titanic IMO.

The lost a lot of sane ones after the election as they just bussed in a load of Boris fanboys and girls just willing to say yes to whatever he proposed on Brexit.
 
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Flying Fokker

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  • Jun 10, 2020
  • #27,646
interesting and a reality check.

Coronavirus came to UK 'at least 1,300 times'
 

chiefdave

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  • Jun 10, 2020
  • #27,647
Flying Fokker said:
interesting and a reality check.

Coronavirus came to UK 'at least 1,300 times'
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That doesn't make good reading for the government and their choice to not impose any restrictions on people coming into the country. Was bad enough before but if studies are now showing "the UK's coronavirus epidemic was largely initiated by travel from Italy in late February, Spain in early-to-mid-March and then France in mid-to-late-March" then it would suggest if the government had acted early and decisively, similarly to New Zealand, the results could be very different.
 
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PVA

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  • Jun 10, 2020
  • #27,648
Would you rather be in Italy part #728636

It was surely obvious that locking down sooner, more effectively and more strictly, but for a shorter period, would leave us better off economically than one long loose, vague, semi-lockdown?

UK economy likely to suffer worst Covid-19 damage, says OECD
 
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shmmeee

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  • Jun 10, 2020
  • #27,649
 
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Jun 10, 2020
  • #27,650
PVA said:
Would you rather be in Italy part #728636

It was surely obvious that locking down sooner, more effectively and more strictly, but for a shorter period, would leave us better off economically than one long loose, vague, semi-lockdown?

UK economy likely to suffer worst Covid-19 damage, says OECD
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Yep. Tried to be clever/greedy and saying if we can stay open we can get a march on everyone else and see the economic benefit (their main desire). Instead we dithered and will likely end up seeing the biggest shock from it by having to delay our re-opening of it. Wouldn't surprise me if a fair few of those behind the scenes are claiming our problem wasn't that we didn't lockdown early enough but that we locked down at all and should've remained open for the economy. What's a few hundred thousands lives compared to billions of pounds.....

Amazing how those whose main interest is greed and economic benefit seem to be the most adept at destroying economies.
 
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