Don’t do your back in moving those goalposts will you?
teeyst ?Right
Too many vowels for my taste
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Im not moving anything - I just see a great big dose of hypocrisy. Some on here tried to claim Mr Cummings trip was responsible for a spike in Durham deaths. I don’t think those same people have said Mr Gardiber should resign unless I missed something. I’ll have a look
Pretty sure he didn't need planning permission for that.
Personally I wouldn't be doing anything that doesn't maintain social distancing. To be honest I haven't changed my behaviour at all since the restrictions were eased, would rather wait and see how it plays out.
That said I think a protest for a cause you believe strongly in is a better justification than taking a trip for your wife's birthday, day out at the beach / park / Ikea etc. However other MPs managed to attend the protest to show support while maintaining social distancing so not sure why he couldn't do the same.
Of course the big difference is that he was open and honest about what he was doing as opposed to trying to conceal it and then lying when caught out. Fortunately for Labour its a non-issue as Starmer had already got rid of him so he's just a back bencher now and therefore can't be sacked.
That would be the NEC that would remove the whip.He can’t “sack” Gardiner, he’s a back bench MP, he’s not employed by Starmer.
He also can’t remove the whip I don’t think, that’s down to the party. I’d support that happening TBH.
Did you forget the link to cabinet members slating Cummings and Jenrick?
Resign from what?? You want him to stop being an MP? I don’t think anyone’s asked for Cummings to stop being an advisor or Jenrick to stop being an MP, just that they lose their role in government.
No one can remove him as an mp until the next ge unless he is jailed for a year or 1 in 10 voters in his constituency petition for this.Resign from what?? You want him to stop being an MP? I don’t think anyone’s asked for Cummings to stop being an advisor or Jenrick to stop being an MP, just that they lose their role in government.
That's my plan. Will go and see parents at weekend otherwise my Mum will be kicking down my door, but other than that, I'll let others be the guinea pigs.To be honest I haven't changed my behaviour at all since the restrictions were eased, would rather wait and see how it plays out.
Of course he should resign his actions could spread infection and cost lives.
If it’s not costing lives why should anyone resign?
Grenners is anti democracyAgain, find me anyone, anywhere that’s asking Jenrick to resign as an MP. You seem to be unable to grasp the difference between a cabinet/shadcab member being employed in a role and an MP being elected.
If Gardiners constituents want him to be recalled they’re welcome to start a petition.
How’s the googling going for a senior story condemning either by the way?
Again, find me anyone, anywhere that’s asking Jenrick to resign as an MP. You seem to be unable to grasp the difference between a cabinet/shadcab member being employed in a role and an MP being elected.
If Gardiners constituents want him to be recalled they’re welcome to start a petition.
How’s the googling going for a senior story condemning either by the way?
HahaHe's still trying to verify Cnut vs Canute
Of course he should resign his actions could spread infection and cost lives.
If it’s not costing lives why should anyone resign?
"World beating"September now for the track and trace app
So, with Ferguson being forced to resign and Hancock saying it’s a matter for the police when can we expect Robert Jenrick to resign
You said he should resign
Not sure why you’re getting all uptight about it, I’m sure he was merely acting on instinct... and as we’ve found out recently that if this the case you are pretty much untouchable.Of course he should resign his actions could spread infection and cost lives.
If it’s not costing lives why should anyone resign?
similar to how the labour whip resigned and apologised after breaking lockdownYes... from his role as Secretary of State for HCLG. Not as an MP.
Yep, unlike our Barry she had an actual position they could remove from her.Just like the labour whip did.
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Cummings resigning would be good for the tories nowWhy should anyone resign now? The precedent has been set by Cummings and the government.
Cummings resigning would be good for the tories now
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Like thevsay in Texas remember the Alamo well it will be remember that c**t cummingsHim staying was the best thing for Labour. Just look at the polls. He should go but I’m glad he didn’t.
This makes no sense to me. You'd struggle to find a business more suited to social distancing yet the government is forcing them to stay closed. What happens if all the zoos go out of business?Just a week after celebrating its 57th birthday, Twycross Zoo now faces a "fight for survival" to avoid extinction.
A change in the law by the Government has seen zoos, including Twycross, added to a list ordered to stay closed 'indefinitely' as lockdown continues to hit.
This makes no sense to me. You'd struggle to find a business more suited to social distancing yet the government is forcing them to stay closed. What happens if all the zoos go out of business?
This makes no sense to me. You'd struggle to find a business more suited to social distancing yet the government is forcing them to stay closed. What happens if all the zoos go out of business?
This makes no sense to me. You'd struggle to find a business more suited to social distancing yet the government is forcing them to stay closed. What happens if all the zoos go out of business?
Dare I say hotels could quite easily argue for reopening even if just limited capacity
The government's plan to rebuild document targets July 4th for the reopening of the hospitality and leisure sectors including food service providers, pubs, hotels, holiday parks, campsites, cinemas etc. If they're all fine to open why not zoos?They rely on shops, cafes and need toilets open. Most animal charities and zoos are likely to close
Totally off topic but as this is basically the politics thread, found this fascinating, even if the colours are confusing.
The government's plan to rebuild document targets July 4th for the reopening of the hospitality and leisure sectors including food service providers, pubs, hotels, holiday parks, campsites, cinemas etc. If they're all fine to open why not zoos?
Appreciate it was published on May 11th and things are changing rapidly but it seems like there could have been government communication to those businesses in the last couple of days. Twycross isn't the first zoo in the last 48 hours to publicly criticise the governments change of plan and at the same time there are campsites and holiday parks who have opened up their booking systems and pubs & venues who have announced events for their reopening on July 4th.
In any case we know non-essential shops are reopening shortly, cafes are already open for takeaways and the current restrictions don't require public toilets to be closed. Not sure why it would be safe to go to the toilet at Ikea for example but not other public places?
Could be. Would make a mockery (again!) of the claims of 'following the science' as the science doesn't change dependent on somewheres charitable status.Charities tax status- haven’t read the detail, are places like museums reopening, or are they remaining closed? If places that are classed as charitable organisations (& thereby not adding to govt coffers as much) are not opening then that’s probably something to do with it.. just a hunch though, not delved into it.
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