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Ring Of Steel

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  • May 26, 2020
  • #25,621
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
She's absolutely on the button.
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up until now this strategy has always worked for them, will be interesting to see if it does this time and the whole thing goes away
 

David O'Day

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  • May 26, 2020
  • #25,622

There maybe trouble ahead

From that well known lefty rag the sun

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Liquid Gold

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  • May 26, 2020
  • #25,623
He won't go, he doesn't give a shit about the polls, this country doesn't rely on a system of coalitions so you end up with 5 years of whatever the ruling party wants, it doesn't matter to them if they poll at 0 for the next three years because they can get through whatever mad shit they want. Johnson can't function without Cummings and Cummings doesn't give a shit about precedence, respect or the rule of law. The press will eventually move on.

All we can hope is that this shows people what a cesspit the Tory party currently is.
 
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Ring Of Steel

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  • May 27, 2020
  • #25,624
Random fact: Dominic Cummings’ son is called Alexander Cedd. He is named after an Anglo-Saxon monk who travelled to Northumbria and died of a plague, which subsequently infected many others who also died.
 

David O'Day

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  • May 27, 2020
  • #25,625

You know that unassailable lead that stumpy fingers grendal was saying the tories had?

It's tightening in Westminster VI as well

(YouGov as well so wank fingers should be happy with it)

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djr8369

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  • May 27, 2020
  • #25,626
David O'Day said:

Detailed polling from the well known campaigning left wing newspaper the daily mail

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Was looking at twitter last night and the bots and boomers on twitter now seem to be taking the line that the left control the mail.


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David O'Day

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  • May 27, 2020
  • #25,627
Jenrick really isn't very good

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Skybluefaz

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  • May 27, 2020
  • #25,628
 

David O'Day

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  • May 27, 2020
  • #25,629
Skybluefaz said:
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Novel line of defence that

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Skybluefaz

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  • May 27, 2020
  • #25,630
David O'Day said:
Novel.line if defence that

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At least he's honest
 

David O'Day

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  • May 27, 2020
  • #25,631
Skybluefaz said:
At least he's honest
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That's something

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Skybluefaz

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  • May 27, 2020
  • #25,632
David O'Day said:
That's something

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"I stress – I don't believe that economic equality is possible; indeed some measure of inequality is essential for the spirit of envy and keeping up with the Joneses that is, like greed, a valuable spur to economic activity."

Add to it this Boris quote and it seems to further back up Fernando's theory.
 

shmmeee

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  • May 27, 2020
  • #25,633
Skybluefaz said:
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Boils my fucking blood. They think we’re morons and plebs.

He wasn’t working for the government when he went on his Dom Jolly, it was his private life and he was acting as a private citizen. The fact he’s very well off and well connected is all the more reason he could’ve followed the rules.

If he’d apologised this would’ve gone away, in a way I’m glad he didn’t and he’s forced all these cunty Tories out into the open to make it clear quite what they think of the average British person.
 
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shmmeee

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  • May 27, 2020
  • #25,634
Skybluefaz said:
"I stress – I don't believe that economic equality is possible; indeed some measure of inequality is essential for the spirit of envy and keeping up with the Joneses that is, like greed, a valuable spur to economic activity."

Add to it this Boris quote and it seems to further back up Fernando's theory.
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That’s a fundamental tenet of right wing thought, hardly a gotcha, they’ve written whole books on the subject.
 

Skybluefaz

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  • May 27, 2020
  • #25,635
shmmeee said:
Boils my fucking blood. They think we’re morons and plebs.

He wasn’t working for the government when he went on his Dom Jolly, it was his private life and he was acting as a private citizen. The fact he’s very well off and well connected is all the more reason he could’ve followed the rules.

If he’d apologised this would’ve gone away, in a way I’m glad he didn’t and he’s forced all these cunty Tories out into the open to Male it clear quite what they think of the average British person.
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I agree, I think the course of action they are taking will be self destructive
 
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Skybluefaz

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  • May 27, 2020
  • #25,636
shmmeee said:
That’s a fundamental tenet of right wing thought, hardly a gotcha, they’ve written whole books on the subject.
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Yeah I'm not claiming any kind of exclusive
 

clint van damme

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  • May 27, 2020
  • #25,637
David O'Day said:
Moving away from the Cummings stuff for a moment.

If you reopen non essential stores on the 15th what can you do about the crowds you may get in town centres but not in stores?

Going to be hard to social distance if you get a rush of people up past topshop

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Crowds shouldn't be an issue in Cov town centre!
 

David O'Day

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  • May 27, 2020
  • #25,638
clint van damme said:
Crowds shouldn't be an issue in Cov town centre!
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If you get the cock womble they shops are open let's go attitude you do.

There is a danger the spoonsqho rush to KFC and b and q will so the same thing

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clint van damme

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  • May 27, 2020
  • #25,639
shmmeee said:
Boils my fucking blood. They think we’re morons and plebs.

He wasn’t working for the government when he went on his Dom Jolly, it was his private life and he was acting as a private citizen. The fact he’s very well off and well connected is all the more reason he could’ve followed the rules.

If he’d apologised this would’ve gone away, in a way I’m glad he didn’t and he’s forced all these cunty Tories out into the open to make it clear quite what they think of the average British person.
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Heard someone interviewed yesterday talking about Cummings interview and when he was asked whether he'd informed the Prime minister.

He claimed protocol would dictate that Cummings should actually have informed his line manager who is actually a senior civil servant.

He would have been able to arrange anything Cummings needed without him leaving London and even if it was decided he needed to go to Durham he could have arranged transport. The she thing is a crock of shit.
 

fernandopartridge

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  • May 27, 2020
  • #25,640
Skybluefaz said:
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One of the Tory councillors in Saddleworth got done for noncing
 

shmmeee

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  • May 27, 2020
  • #25,641
Skybluefaz said:
Yeah I'm not claiming any kind of exclusive
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I know, just pointing out that what looks like a horrendous thing for someone to believe is actually very openly at the core of their ideology. They’re quite open about the fact that they need people clawing at each other so they’ll hand their labour over. And that the only reason they work is to climb this greasy pole they’ve imagined. It’s why the right fundamentally don’t understand public service and only drape themselves in it when they think it’ll play well.

Same as when the mask slips on Grendel and he starts ranking people’s lives. Disgusting and in a government will inevitably lead to atrocities as you don’t value all life the same. You think some people are “worth more”.

I’ll never understand it. No gods. No masters.
 
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David O'Day

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  • May 27, 2020
  • #25,642
People still angry and this isn't going away

The press are delighted they sent on Jenrick as a he is shite and b it allows the times to splash his own scandal


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shmmeee

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  • May 27, 2020
  • #25,643
fernandopartridge said:
One of the Tory councillors in Saddleworth got done for noncing
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Well he’s a very important person and the usual rules don’t apply you see...
 
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djr8369

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  • May 27, 2020
  • #25,644
shmmeee said:
I know, just pointing out that what looks like a horrendous thing for someone to believe is actually very openly at the core of their ideology. They’re quite open about the fact that they need people clawing at each other so they’ll hand their labour over. And that the only reason they work is to climb this greasy pole they’ve imagined. It’s why the right fundamentally don’t understand public service and only drape themselves in it when they think it’ll play well.

Same as when the mask slips on Grendel and he starts ranking people’s lives. Disgusting and in a government will inevitably lead to atrocities as you don’t value all life the same. You think some people are “worth more”.

I’ll never understand it. No gods. No masters.
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It can be a toxic and horrible ideology. It’s why they need the culture war though. If you convince enough people that immigrants or gay people are the issue or “the left are destroying free speech” you can distract them enough to not see how they are played.


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skybluetony176

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  • May 27, 2020
  • #25,645
Just heard on the radio that over 35 Tory Mp’s are now trying to stop Brexit, err... I mean calling for Cummings to be sacked.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • May 27, 2020
  • #25,646
djr8369 said:
It can be a toxic and horrible ideology. It’s why they need the culture war though. If you convince enough people that immigrants or gay people are the issue or “the left are destroying free speech” you can distract them enough to not see how they are played.


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And most of all, you call those who point this out as sneering and condescending.
 
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skybluetony176

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  • May 27, 2020
  • #25,647
Former right wing sweetheart and the excellent dan hodges are having a tiff on Twitter but it does raise a wider issue past Coronavirus. What do rules and laws mean if you have instinct. This is setting a stupid precedent.
 
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David O'Day

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  • May 27, 2020
  • #25,648
skybluetony176 said:
Former right wing sweetheart and the excellent dan hodges are having a tiff on Twitter but it does raise a wider issue past Coronavirus. What do rules and laws mean if you have instinct. This is setting a stupid precedent.
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I still love that the excellent dan Hodges mum thinks he's a c**t

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clint van damme

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  • May 27, 2020
  • #25,649
David O'Day said:
I still love that the excellent dan Hodges mum thinks he's a c**t

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I only found out the other day who his mum is. I bet she wishes she'd got his old man to wear a condom.
He'd have contributed more to humanity as a lump of jizz suffocating inside a rubber coffin than he ever has as a journalist.
 
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stupot07

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  • May 27, 2020
  • #25,650
David O'Day said:
People still angry and this isn't going away

The press are delighted they sent on Jenrick as a he is shite and b it allows the times to splash his own scandal


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How is he still in a job?

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stupot07

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  • May 27, 2020
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stupot07

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  • May 27, 2020
  • #25,652
Any coincidence that Vallance and Whitty havent done a press conference since the government defence of Cummings.

They were apparently booked into do the Saturday daily briefing but either walked or were asked not to do it.

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Ring Of Steel

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  • May 27, 2020
  • #25,653
shmmeee said:
I know, just pointing out that what looks like a horrendous thing for someone to believe is actually very openly at the core of their ideology. They’re quite open about the fact that they need people clawing at each other so they’ll hand their labour over. And that the only reason they work is to climb this greasy pole they’ve imagined. It’s why the right fundamentally don’t understand public service and only drape themselves in it when they think it’ll play well.

Same as when the mask slips on Grendel and he starts ranking people’s lives. Disgusting and in a government will inevitably lead to atrocities as you don’t value all life the same. You think some people are “worth more”.

I’ll never understand it. No gods. No masters.
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I think this is spot on

Brighton Sky Blue said:
And most of all, you call those who point this out as sneering and condescending.
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There are some famous quotes by the political scientist Zbigniew Brzezinski, who was a visionary in terms of observing what was being played out in front of him back in the '60s, and knowing what was on the horizon.

"Shortly, the public will be unable to reason or think for themselves. They'll only be able to parrot the information they've been given on the previous night's news."

"The technotronic era involves the gradual appearance of a more controlled society. Such a society would be dominated by an elite, unrestrained by traditional values. Soon it will be possible to assert almost continuous surveillance over every citizen and maintain up-to-date complete files containing even the most personal information about the citizen. These files will be subject to instantaneous retrieval by the authorities."

"Speaking of a future at most only decades away, an experimenter in intelligence control asserted, “I foresee a time when we shall have the means and therefore, inevitably, the temptation to manipulate the behavior and intellectual functioning of all the people through environmental and biochemical manipulation of the brain."

"We have a large public that is very ignorant about public affairs and very susceptible to simplistic slogans by candidates who appear out of nowhere, have no track record, but mouth appealing slogans"
 

clint van damme

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  • May 27, 2020
  • #25,654
stupot07 said:
Any coincidence that Vallance and Whitty havent done a press conference since the government defence of Cummings.

They were apparently booked into do the Saturday daily briefing but either walked or were asked not to do it.

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they were actually due to appear at one and were in the building, (may have been Saturday), but got bumped at the last minute.
 

clint van damme

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  • May 27, 2020
  • #25,655
 
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