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Grendel

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  • May 24, 2020
  • #24,816
Ring Of Steel said:
he’s judging them by his own standards then- he’s a shit parent as well as a deeply flawed human being
and comically inept failure in every job he’s had.
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How rational. What a wonderfully thoughtful contribution to the debate
 

Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • May 24, 2020
  • #24,817
Saddlebrains said:
Tbh lads it doesnt matter lockdowns ending. As covered, this virus is dying out naturally. Granted if we went back to fully normal you would see a spike but none of this second wave stuff the facebook experts seem to state.

Does anyone here follow Professor Sikora? Blokes a breath of fresh air
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Brilliant and the best bit you can say what you like as you have no expert opinion and if it doesn’t work out how you think you take no responsibility for it
 

Ring Of Steel

Well-Known Member
  • May 24, 2020
  • #24,818
Saddlebrains said:
Tbh lads it doesnt matter lockdowns ending. As covered, this virus is dying out naturally. Granted if we went back to fully normal you would see a spike but none of this second wave stuff the facebook experts seem to state.

Does anyone here follow Professor Sikora? Blokes a breath of fresh air
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kind of looks more likely that this is the second wave, bearing in mind we know it was in Europe in November last year
 

David O'Day

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  • May 24, 2020
  • #24,819
Best bit about the childcare defence is he didn't actually get any child care

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chiefdave

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  • May 24, 2020
  • #24,820
clint van damme said:
Unless he's got something up his sleeve for PMQs next week.
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He'll probably miss that one. TOIL for having to work on a Sunday!
 
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clint van damme

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  • May 24, 2020
  • #24,821
Saddlebrains said:
Tbh lads it doesnt matter lockdowns ending. As covered, this virus is dying out naturally. Granted if we went back to fully normal you would see a spike but none of this second wave stuff the facebook experts seem to state.

Does anyone here follow Professor Sikora? Blokes a breath of fresh air
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He's worth a listen but don't take everything he says as gospel, he's an oncologist at the end of the day.
 
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chiefdave

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  • May 24, 2020
  • #24,822
David O'Day said:
Best bit about the childcare defence is he didn't actually get any child care
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Its mental if you actually pick through the corner they've backed themselves into. That has Cummings going all the way to Durham to get some groceries delivered!
 
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David O'Day

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  • May 24, 2020
  • #24,823

The governments nudge advisors aren't happy

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clint van damme

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  • May 24, 2020
  • #24,824
David O'Day said:
Best bit about the childcare defence is he didn't actually get any child care

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as if Johnson would know about taking responsibility for your kids.
 
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chiefdave

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  • May 24, 2020
  • #24,825
Saddlebrains said:
Tbh lads it doesnt matter lockdowns ending. As covered, this virus is dying out naturally. Granted if we went back to fully normal you would see a spike but none of this second wave stuff the facebook experts seem to state.

Does anyone here follow Professor Sikora? Blokes a breath of fresh air
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Hope that turns out to be the case. I certainly won't be rushing to the pub or anywhere else with loads of people.

Some experts have long been predicting that the second wave won't come until winter so it could be a while before we can actually declare this all over and done with.
 

Ring Of Steel

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  • May 24, 2020
  • #24,826
chiefdave said:
Its mental if you actually pick through the corner they've backed themselves into. That has Cummings going all the way to Durham to get some groceries delivered!
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thing is, this is no bigger of a lie than some of the other stuff they got up to- Russia reports, Acuri etc, as well as Boris being completely AWOL most of the time and telling porkies every time he opens his mouth- can only assume that this was the straw that broke the camel’s back, and enough is enough with the lies & bullshit, people have finally had enough of being treated like fools.
 
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clint van damme

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  • May 24, 2020
  • #24,827
Ring Of Steel said:
thing is, this is no bigger of a lie than some of the other stuff they got up to- Russia reports, Acuri etc, as well as Boris being completely AWOL most of the time and telling porkies every time he opens his mouth- can only assume that this was the straw that broke the camel’s back, and enough is enough with the lies & bullshit, people have finally had enough of being treated like fools.
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which is why Starmer calling for an enquiry pisses me off.
We already have more suppressed reports, white washes and ineffectual enquire than you can shake a stick at. Waste of fucking time.
 
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chiefdave

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  • May 24, 2020
  • #24,828
Ring Of Steel said:
thing is, this is no bigger of a lie than some of the other stuff they got up to- Russia reports, Acuri etc, as well as Boris being completely AWOL most of the time and telling porkies every time he opens his mouth- can only assume that this was the straw that broke the camel’s back, and enough is enough with the lies & bullshit, people have finally had enough of being treated like fools.
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Looking at what some Conservative MPs are saying about the response from their constituents think the issue is that so many people have been hugely impacted personally by this and feel like the government is sticking two fingers up at them.
 

David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • May 24, 2020
  • #24,829
clint van damme said:
which is why Starmer calling for an enquiry pisses me off.
We already have more suppressed reports, white washes and ineffectual enquire than you can shake a stick at. Waste of fucking time.
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He's said he should be fired. He said it live on sky news

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Ring Of Steel

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  • May 24, 2020
  • #24,830
chiefdave said:
Looking at what some Conservative MPs are saying about the response from their constituents think the issue is that so many people have been hugely impacted personally by this and feel like the government is sticking two fingers up at them.
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They have been for a long time, driven by the guy who is now responsible for highlighting the fact to them, there is a certain irony in that- Cummings thought he was utterly untouchable and that might be the case, but he’s clearly shown people the contempt he holds them in.
 

clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • May 24, 2020
  • #24,831
chiefdave said:
Looking at what some Conservative MPs are saying about the response from their constituents think the issue is that so many people have been hugely impacted personally by this and feel like the government is sticking two fingers up at them.
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I said this earlier in the thread. A lot of things we debate on here don't actually affect many of us, at least not to a great degree.
This has massively impacted all of us.
 

David O'Day

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  • May 24, 2020
  • #24,832

The nudge unit seems to be in open revolt

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clint van damme

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  • May 24, 2020
  • #24,833
David O'Day said:
He's said he should be fired. He said it live on sky news

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The jury is out on Starmer for me personally. As I've said before, not as good as his fan boys make out and nowhere near as bad as his haters make out either.
 
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SeaSeeEffCee

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  • May 24, 2020
  • #24,834
When even the Mail have turned on the glorious leader you know things are getting bad

 
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Saddlebrains

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  • May 24, 2020
  • #24,835
Ring Of Steel said:
kind of looks more likely that this is the second wave, bearing in mind we know it was in Europe in November last year
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Said this for weeks. Got laughed at on here, and by work colleagues, friends etc. Its actually glaringly obvious and you don't need a degree in medicine its common sense.

Its proven to have been in Europe as early as November. We had a flu season resulting in 8 times higher hospital admissions and deaths. 4 times more deaths from pneumonia from November.

The amount of people, (even a smallish sample for example on here )who had symptoms from December onwards but as it wasn't mainstream or named, just cracked on with a really bad cold ( all we would have known it as).

The fact that this fucker was spreading at almost 100,000 a day a few months back, but is now only recording 20 odd new cases a day in a city the size of London, which shows there must be MASSIVE immunity.

Even the vaccine makers from Oxford uni are saying they think this will.disappear before they can even complete the human trials.

This is more than likely the dreaded 'second wave'. Unfortunately it mutated from what everyone was experiencing from November onwards and It ripped through everyone at speed, and unfortunately, for whatever reason, genetic, viral load, whatever, killed people or made them seriously ill.

But it's on its way out, the rest of the world is showing this. Not long now lads, keep smiling
 

clint van damme

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  • May 24, 2020
  • #24,836
SeaSeeEffCee said:
When even the Mail have turned on the glorious leader you know things are getting bad

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it comes to something when you put out a front page featuring the hairy bikers and they're not the scruffiest fuckers on there.
 
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clint van damme

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  • May 24, 2020
  • #24,837
Saddlebrains said:
Said this for weeks. Got laughed at on here, and by work colleagues, friends etc. Its actually glaringly obvious and you don't need a degree in medicine its common sense.

Its proven to have been in Europe as early as November. We had a flu season resulting in 8 times higher hospital admissions and deaths. 4 times more deaths from pneumonia from November.

The amount of people, (even a smallish sample for example on here )who had symptoms from December onwards but as it wasn't mainstream or named, just cracked on with a really bad cold ( all we would have known it as).

The fact that this fucker was spreading at almost 100,000 a day a few months back, but is now only recording 20 odd new cases a day in a city the size of London, which shows there must be MASSIVE immunity.

Even the vaccine makers from Oxford uni are saying they think this will.disappear before they can even complete the human trials.

This is more than likely the dreaded 'second wave'. Unfortunately it mutated from what everyone was experiencing from November onwards and It ripped through everyone at speed, and unfortunately, for whatever reason, genetic, viral load, whatever, killed people or made them seriously ill.

But it's on its way out, the rest of the world is showing this. Not long now lads, keep smiling
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that's simply not true.
I was one of the ones who agreed with you that I though it had been here earlier than everyone said, (I thought pre Christmas), but nothing has been proven yet no matter what me and you think.

We have 36,000 official deaths and in reality probably nearer 60,000. Far too early to be celebrating yet. I hope we are at the end of this but far too early to say just yet.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • May 24, 2020
  • #24,838
Saddlebrains said:
Its actually glaringly obvious and you don't need a degree in medicine its common sense
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I'll always listen to common sense ahead of trained expertise. Who needs these namby pamby experts after all.
 
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Saddlebrains

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  • May 24, 2020
  • #24,839
Deleted member 5849 said:
I'll always listen to common sense ahead of trained expertise. Who needs these namby pamby experts after all.
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Take the piss as much as you want. But read up on whats happening round the world.

Lockdown or not, cold country, hot country the disease is doing the same all across the board, and burning itself out after 8 weeks.

But let the daily mail keep telling you the second you step outside you'll die
 
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  • May 24, 2020
  • #24,840
Saddlebrains said:
Take the piss as much as you want.
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Ta.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • May 24, 2020
  • #24,841
Saddlebrains said:
Said this for weeks. Got laughed at on here, and by work colleagues, friends etc. Its actually glaringly obvious and you don't need a degree in medicine its common sense.

Its proven to have been in Europe as early as November. We had a flu season resulting in 8 times higher hospital admissions and deaths. 4 times more deaths from pneumonia from November.

The amount of people, (even a smallish sample for example on here )who had symptoms from December onwards but as it wasn't mainstream or named, just cracked on with a really bad cold ( all we would have known it as).

The fact that this fucker was spreading at almost 100,000 a day a few months back, but is now only recording 20 odd new cases a day in a city the size of London, which shows there must be MASSIVE immunity.

Even the vaccine makers from Oxford uni are saying they think this will.disappear before they can even complete the human trials.

This is more than likely the dreaded 'second wave'. Unfortunately it mutated from what everyone was experiencing from November onwards and It ripped through everyone at speed, and unfortunately, for whatever reason, genetic, viral load, whatever, killed people or made them seriously ill.

But it's on its way out, the rest of the world is showing this. Not long now lads, keep smiling
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Which would be excellent news. All we wanted was a bit more evidence that this was the case.
 
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Ian1779

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  • May 24, 2020
  • #24,842
Saddlebrains said:
Said this for weeks. Got laughed at on here, and by work colleagues, friends etc. Its actually glaringly obvious and you don't need a degree in medicine its common sense.

Its proven to have been in Europe as early as November. We had a flu season resulting in 8 times higher hospital admissions and deaths. 4 times more deaths from pneumonia from November.

The amount of people, (even a smallish sample for example on here )who had symptoms from December onwards but as it wasn't mainstream or named, just cracked on with a really bad cold ( all we would have known it as).

The fact that this fucker was spreading at almost 100,000 a day a few months back, but is now only recording 20 odd new cases a day in a city the size of London, which shows there must be MASSIVE immunity.

Even the vaccine makers from Oxford uni are saying they think this will.disappear before they can even complete the human trials.

This is more than likely the dreaded 'second wave'. Unfortunately it mutated from what everyone was experiencing from November onwards and It ripped through everyone at speed, and unfortunately, for whatever reason, genetic, viral load, whatever, killed people or made them seriously ill.

But it's on its way out, the rest of the world is showing this. Not long now lads, keep smiling
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Because we have made no effort to try and track the spread of the virus we have no idea if this is true or complete bollocks.
 
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David O'Day

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  • May 24, 2020
  • #24,843
Deleted member 5849 said:
I'll always listen to common sense ahead of trained expertise. Who needs these namby pamby experts after all.
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Viruses can go away for a while and come back. It's far too early to say it's over even if the figures go the right way this week.

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Saddlebrains

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  • May 24, 2020
  • #24,844
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Which would be excellent news. All we wanted was a bit more evidence that this was the case.
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The evidence is coming in more and more by the day. Very encouraging it seems.

I'm just trying to be more upbeat. 700+ pages on this thread, 600+ of it is arguing, death, bad news.

The end seems to be on the horizon, a return to more normality sooner than we thought. Lets give it a go reading and discussing the good news for once shall we?

And before anyone starts im not saying 36k dead is good news.
 
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clint van damme

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  • May 24, 2020
  • #24,845
Saddlebrains said:
Take the piss as much as you want. But read up on whats happening round the world.

Lockdown or not, cold country, hot country the disease is doing the same all across the board, and burning itself out after 8 weeks.

But let the daily mail keep telling you the second you step outside you'll die
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but we've got a wave of Kawasaki disease in some countries (may be related, may not), we've got sufferers with a completely different set of symptoms to the next sufferer, we've got happy hypoxia, this fucker is making it's own rules.
Not discounting anything your saying, there are definitely signs for optimism, I just don't think we're out of the woods yet, or we should be complacent.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • May 24, 2020
  • #24,846
Saddlebrains said:
The evidence is coming in more and more by the day. Very encouraging it seems.

I'm just trying to be more upbeat. 700+ pages on this thread, 600+ of it is arguing, death, bad news.

The end seems to be on the horizon, a return to more normality sooner than we thought. Lets give it a go reading and discussing the good news for once shall we?

And before anyone starts im not saying 36k dead is good news.
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I don’t think I had unreasonable requests before reopening the schools and as yet we haven’t reached them. But you have to be honest, for the last few months there has been little positive to discuss. Plus this has been a stressful time for many and some, me included, just need a vent.

Just want back into a classroom to do my job properly!
 
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PVA

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  • May 24, 2020
  • #24,847
Just popping in for the first time in a week or so.

How is Johnson's all time super duper record bestest eva approval rating looking now Grendel?

Even the Daily Mail, your favourite paper, have turned on him.

He is done for.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • May 24, 2020
  • #24,848
David O'Day said:
Viruses can go away for a while and come back. It's far too early to say it's over even if the figures go the right way this week.

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Let’s at least get a week of <100 deaths first
 
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David O'Day

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  • May 24, 2020
  • #24,849
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Let’s at least get a week of <100 deaths first
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At the very least. 3 figure new cases as well

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Marty

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  • May 24, 2020
  • #24,850
I'm not sure the media can say much about people flouting lockdown. Did anybody see the media circus outside Cummings home, the press were literally climbing over each other to get their shot.
 
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