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shmmeee

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  • May 22, 2020
  • #24,221
wingy said:
Who would prefer China to lose all it's customers?
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The equivalent Chinese conspiracy theories that it’s the Americans that planted it actually makes more sense. (To be clear both are bollocks, this is an event we’ve been predicting for years).
 
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shmmeee

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  • May 22, 2020
  • #24,222
Sky Blue Pete said:
Good friend last night was poo pooing lockdown. Really thinks we are overreacting. He’s a retired consultant
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Does he have an explanation for our death rate?
 
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wingy

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  • May 22, 2020
  • #24,223
shmmeee said:
The equivalent Chinese conspiracy theories that it’s the Americans that planted it actually makes more sense. (To be clear both are bollocks, this is an event we’ve been predicting for years).
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Agreed !
Post pandemic may feel like there has been some sort of conflict mind.
Who will deliver the Marshall plan ?
 

jimmyhillsfanclub

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  • May 22, 2020
  • #24,224
David O'Day said:
No the concept of giving each person a 30 second tribute would take 88 hours.

Off you fuck skippy

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Ha ha...bless. Nice leisurely hungover morning for me today......poached eggs for breakkie.....they take 4 minutes....4 fucking minutesenguin:
 
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The coventrian

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  • May 22, 2020
  • #24,225
fernandopartridge said:
Why would they do that?

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Who knows. It's way above my pay grade. But like a previous poster said,something really is fishy with all this. It wouldn't surprise me if china actually has a cure for this.
 

David O'Day

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  • May 22, 2020
  • #24,226
jimmyhillsfanclub said:
Ha ha...bless. Nice leisurely hungover morning for me today......poached eggs for breakkie.....they take 4 minutes....4 fucking minutesenguin:
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Back on the turps again?

You are fucking sick in the head making a joke about how long it would take to give each victim 30 seconds.

Enjoy your leisurely breakfast. Are the bins out the back of Aldi socially distanced.

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clint van damme

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  • May 22, 2020
  • #24,227
The Chinese have a conspiracy theory it came from Fort Detrick.
I don't believe it but it's probably just as feasible as any of the other conspiracy theories.
 
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shmmeee

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  • May 22, 2020
  • #24,228
wingy said:
Agreed !
Post pandemic may feel like there has been some sort of conflict mind.
Who will deliver the Marshall plan ?
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My worry is there won’t be one. I woke up to George Osborne of all people being asked what we should do on R4!

Why are we asking a journalist with a degree in History and not an actual economist? Madness.

Of course his hair brained scheme is to cut spending. Because that worked so well last time when he nearly put us in double dip recession, had to u-turn, then gave us the slowest recovery in history.

I only hope the Brexit loonies realise how they can’t do austerity right after Brexit or people will wonder where the land of milk and honey they were promised went.

My kingdom for a competent government with an understanding of macroeconomics.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • May 22, 2020
  • #24,229
shmmeee said:
My worry is there won’t be one. I woke up to George Osborne of all people being asked what we should do on R4!

Why are we asking a journalist with a degree in History and not an actual economist? Madness.

Of course his hair brained scheme is to cut spending. Because that worked so well last time when he nearly put us in double dip recession, had to u-turn, then gave us the slowest recovery in history.

I only hope the Brexit loonies realise how they can’t do austerity right after Brexit or people will wonder where the land of milk and honey they were promised went.

My kingdom for a competent government with an understanding of macroeconomics.
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God damn we have got to win in 2024 or earlier if Boris gets thrown on the pyre for this.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • May 22, 2020
  • #24,230
clint van damme said:
The Chinese have a conspiracy theory it came from Fort Detrick.
I don't believe it but it's probably just as feasible as any of the other conspiracy theories.
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Considering how his wealth has continued to soar throughout this, you might think Jeff Bezos put it in one of his warehouses
 
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Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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  • May 22, 2020
  • #24,231
I can see a lot of the people making snide comments about China being innocent are the same ones that only want to talk about the tories.

I recommend everyone to watch the Coronavirus documentary on Netflix for a basic science lesson. It's only about 20 minutes long.

I for one am not suggesting this was man made as such, but the reaction of China when they found out about it was criminal. I'm gobsmacked that they unleashed their citizens on the rest of the world when they knew how serious it could be. The lack of reaction can only be deliberate in my eyes.

What was the motivation? Who knows. Just look at the bank of China bailing out a distressed Norwegian Airlines and maybe there is some clue.

Also the fact so many countries were so slow to close their borders is still baffling me. Then again, when there has been accusations from the Chinese government that it would be racist to do so, I would think that whole notion had some part to play.

This thing is really strange, also it is of very little risk to younger people. The continuation of society getting back to normal should be done with that in mind, but clearly has not been.
 
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clint van damme

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  • May 22, 2020
  • #24,232
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
I can see a lot of the people making snide comments about China being innocent are the same ones that only want to talk about the tories.

I recommend everyone to watch the Coronavirus documentary on Netflix for a basic science lesson. It's only about 20 minutes long.

I for one am not suggesting this was man made as such, but the reaction of China when they found out about it was criminal. I'm gobsmacked that they unleashed their citizens on the rest of the world when they knew how serious it could be. The lack of reaction can only be deliberate in my eyes.

What was the motivation? Who knows. Just look at the bank of China bailing out a distressed Norwegian Airlines and maybe there is some clue.

Also the fact so many countries were so slow to close their borders is still baffling me. Then again, when there has been accusations from the Chinese government that it would be racist to do so, I would think that whole notion had some part to play.

This thing is really strange, also it is of very little risk to younger people. The continuation of society getting back to normal should be done with that in mind, but clearly has not been.
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Accusing the Chinese of not reacting to the virus correctly or not warning the rest of the world quickly enough is a totally different type of accusation to they did it deliberately.
I would not be surprised if that turned out to be the case that their reaction was poor.
 
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wingy

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  • May 22, 2020
  • #24,233
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
I can see a lot of the people making snide comments about China being innocent are the same ones that only want to talk about the tories.

I recommend everyone to watch the Coronavirus documentary on Netflix for a basic science lesson. It's only about 20 minutes long.

I for one am not suggesting this was man made as such, but the reaction of China when they found out about it was criminal. I'm gobsmacked that they unleashed their citizens on the rest of the world when they knew how serious it could be. The lack of reaction can only be deliberate in my eyes.

What was the motivation? Who knows. Just look at the bank of China bailing out a distressed Norwegian Airlines and maybe there is some clue.

Also the fact so many countries were so slow to close their borders is still baffling me. Then again, when there has been accusations from the Chinese government that it would be racist to do so, I would think that whole notion had some part to play.

This thing is really strange, also it is of very little risk to younger people. The continuation of society getting back to normal should be done with that in mind, but clearly has not been.
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Yes the generational side of this is curious.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • May 22, 2020
  • #24,234
clint van damme said:
Accusing the Chinese of not reacting to the virus correctly or not warning the rest of the world quickly enough is a totally different type of accusation to they did it deliberately.
I would not be surprised if that turned out to be the case that their reaction was poor.
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It's bonkers, full stop. May as well say (which some have!) that our reaction as a country was a deliberate willed attempt to cull old people.
 
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Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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  • May 22, 2020
  • #24,235
clint van damme said:
Accusing the Chinese of not reacting to the virus correctly or not warning the rest of the world quickly enough is a totally different type of accusation to they did it deliberately.
I would not be surprised if that turned out to be the case that their reaction was poor.
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Deleted member 5849 said:
It's bonkers, full stop. May as well say (which some have!) that our reaction as a country was a deliberate willed attempt to cull old people.
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Watch the documentary on Netflix and then give me a reply with some added scientific knowledge.

With SARS and MERS, this really was a very very similar kind of outbreak. They have had enough practice drills and would have known exactly how dangerous it could have been.

They had very little intention of stopping this spreading outside of China initially, when the rest of the world was generally oblivious to what was going on.
 

shmmeee

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  • May 22, 2020
  • #24,236
Occam’s Razor would surely suggest that the Chinese, being as they are oppressive and overly worried about bad PR were slow to let the world know the full scale of the threat and have been suppressing their numbers.

They’re a country that has built its economic success on selling crap to western consumers. The idea they want to cripple consumer spending in western nations makes no sense at all.

And yes, people who don’t believe in conspiracy theories also don’t rate the Tories. I wonder why.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • May 22, 2020
  • #24,237
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
Watch the documentary on Netflix and then give me a reply with some added scientific knowledge.
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Talk to scientists, and then give me a reply with some added scientific knowledge instead of this utter, utter bollocks.
 
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skybluetony176

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  • May 22, 2020
  • #24,238
I think it’s highly likely that the Chinese government downplayed it, hell our own government downplayed it, the American government downplayed it, the Russian government downplayed it, the Brazilian government downplayed etc. Most of these governments continue to downplay it.
Did the Chinese cover it up? To some extent no doubt. But then again we selectively report deaths so we’re covering it up, we lie in parliament about it so we’re covering it up, we have stats that one week that are important and the next irrelevant when they stop painting the “right” picture so we’re covering it up.

Let him without sin cast the first stone.
 
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clint van damme

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  • May 22, 2020
  • #24,239
skybluetony176 said:
I think it’s highly likely that the Chinese government downplayed it, hell our own government downplayed it, the American government downplayed it, the Russian government downplayed it, the Brazilian government downplayed etc. Most of these governments continue to downplay it.
Did the Chinese cover it up? To some extent no doubt. But then again we selectively report deaths so we’re covering it up, we lie in parliament about it so we’re covering it up, we have stats that one week that are important and the next irrelevant so we’re covering it up.

Let him without sin cast the first stone.
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Let's not forget there were clear warnings given to successive UK government's that this was going to happen going back to Blair's time as PM and the 2016 pandemic drill, (was it operation cygnet) informed us we weren't prepared and successive governments ignored those warnings
 
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Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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  • May 22, 2020
  • #24,240
Deleted member 5849 said:
Talk to scientists, and then give me a reply with some added scientific knowledge instead of this utter, utter bollocks.
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What is utter bollocks?

You don't like what I'm saying so you try to make it sound as if I'm stupid. It's a pretty obvious trick.

China were 'at best' extremely slow in curtailing this from spreading to the rest of the world, at worst they did it deliberately to cause chaos. The truth is probably somewhere in the middle.

I honestly suggest you do some research into how viruses work, and some of the ones that have broken in modern history. Then come back and try to tell me everything was just a silly accident and no one had a clue.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • May 22, 2020
  • #24,241
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
Watch the documentary on Netflix and then give me a reply with some added scientific knowledge.

With SARS and MERS, this really was a very very similar kind of outbreak. They have had enough practice drills and would have known exactly how dangerous it could have been.

They had very little intention of stopping this spreading outside of China initially, when the rest of the world was generally oblivious to what was going on.
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I am a scientist. I think you're pushing a conspiracy that goes along with your views on Germany trying to take over the continent. It's odd as at other times you come across as quite reasonable and balanced and other times keep pushing these ideas without much thought about how our own actions look to the rest of the world. We are number one in the European death charts despite being an island and having had much more advance warning than some other countries who have coped better.

Nobody here has a vested interest in defending China.
 
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SkyBlueDom26

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  • May 22, 2020
  • #24,242
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
What is utter bollocks?

You don't like what I'm saying so you try to make it sound as if I'm stupid. It's a pretty obvious trick.

China were 'at best' extremely slow in curtailing this from spreading to the rest of the world, at worst they did it deliberately to cause chaos. The truth is probably somewhere in the middle.

I honestly suggest you do some research into how viruses work, and some of the ones that have broken in modern history. Then come back and try to tell me everything was just a silly accident and no one had a clue.
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China deffo covered it up, if people think different then they are idiots..... that being said I don’t think they thought that it would be this bad and by then it was too late

They deffo lied but people on this thread will defend them to the death
 

clint van damme

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  • May 22, 2020
  • #24,243
SkyBlueDom26 said:
China deffo covered it up, if people think different then they are idiots..... that being said I don’t think they thought that it would be this bad but who knows....

They deffo lied but people on this thread will defend them to the death
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Can you understand English?
People, including myself, have said we wouldn't be surprised if they covered it up but disagreed they released virus on purpose.
The irony.of you calling people idiots
 
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SkyBlueDom26

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  • May 22, 2020
  • #24,244
Deleted member 5849 said:
Talk to scientists, and then give me a reply with some added scientific knowledge instead of this utter, utter bollocks.
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Jumping on the defensive again even though it’s obvious.....doesn’t surprise me lol
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • May 22, 2020
  • #24,245
SkyBlueDom26 said:
Jumping on the defensive again even though it’s obvious.....doesn’t surprise me lol
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My cat has a better understanding of this then you.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • May 22, 2020
  • #24,246
SkyBlueDom26 said:
China deffo covered it up, if people think different then they are idiots..... that being said I don’t think they thought that it would be this bad and by then it was too late

They deffo lied but people on this thread will defend them to the death
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Dude, nobody here is doing that. We're just saying that China didn't unleash a virus on its own people to infect the world. If that were its motive, why wouldn't it release the virus somewhere else?
 
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SkyBlueDom26

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  • May 22, 2020
  • #24,247
Deleted member 5849 said:
My cat has a better understanding of this then you.
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Deluded lad
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • May 22, 2020
  • #24,248
SkyBlueDom26 said:
Why have they ‘probably’ covered up all of the figures then? Something doesn’t add up as they only said they had 3k deaths
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When you grow a second brain cell, come back for a chat.
 

shmmeee

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  • May 22, 2020
  • #24,249
SkyBlueDom26 said:
Deluded lad
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You can use the signature feature if you want to sign your posts.
 
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shmmeee

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  • May 22, 2020
  • #24,250
People in this thread: “Yeah they probably covered it up”

Very Stable Genuises: “People in this thread will never admit they covered it up”
 

SeaSeeEffCee

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  • May 22, 2020
  • #24,251
I see reading comprehension is at an all-time low this morning
 

SkyBlueDom26

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  • May 22, 2020
  • #24,252
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • May 22, 2020
  • #24,253
SkyBlueDom26 said:

Gassed about this, hopefully they open soon! Might even be from June 1st....
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Hope they get zero customers.
 
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SkyBlueDom26

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  • May 22, 2020
  • #24,254
Deleted member 5849 said:
Hope they get zero customers.
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Not a chance, good place to start the night and good prices
 

clint van damme

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  • May 22, 2020
  • #24,255
Deleted member 5849 said:
Hope they get zero customers.
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He's not getting a penny from me.
I know plenty of others have said the same.
 
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