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Ring Of Steel

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  • Apr 3, 2020
  • #11,866
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Announced that teachers are indeed going to decide the GCSE and A level grades. We have been asked to put the students in rank order and to do that we are using mock exams and topic test results.
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Really? Over here they announced that Leaving Cert & Junior Cert (A level & GCSE) will definitely be going ahead. Thats caused two things- mass panic in 16 & 18 yr olds who assumed exams were off and did no work, and secondly a barrage of questions about how they can do it, looks like it will be online exams.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Apr 3, 2020
  • #11,867
Grendel said:
Are mocks externality evaluated?
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No, they are prepared and marked by teachers.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Apr 3, 2020
  • #11,868
Ring Of Steel said:
Really? Over here they announced that Leaving Cert & Junior Cert (A level & GCSE) will definitely be going ahead. Thats caused two things- mass panic in 16 & 18 yr olds who assumed exams were off and did no work, and secondly a barrage of questions about how they can do it, looks like it will be online exams.
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With respect to the Irish bodies that’s unworkable.
 
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Grendel

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  • Apr 3, 2020
  • #11,869
Brighton Sky Blue said:
No, they are prepared and marked by teachers.
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That is ridiculous- it’s going to inflate grades as it avoids potential reprisals
 

Ring Of Steel

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  • Apr 3, 2020
  • #11,870
Brighton Sky Blue said:
With respect to the Irish bodies that’s unworkable.
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luckily neither of my kids are impacted as they’re too young, but it’s causing a bit of uproar alright, no idea if they’ve thought it through fully.

... and you don’t need to worry about being respectful, if they mess up they mess up, simple as that.
 

chiefdave

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  • Apr 3, 2020
  • #11,871
Grendel said:
That is ridiculous- it’s going to inflate grades as it avoids potential reprisals
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Probably one for BSB but don't grade boundaries usually get set after making has taken place to ensure you don't get a sudden change due to the test itself changing year to year? If so you'd assume they would just apply the same principle.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Apr 3, 2020
  • #11,872
Grendel said:
That is ridiculous- it’s going to inflate grades as it avoids potential reprisals
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Ranking the students does provide a barrier against that though it’s not perfect.
 

Ring Of Steel

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  • Apr 3, 2020
  • #11,873
chiefdave said:
Probably one for BSB but don't grade boundaries usually get set after making has taken place to ensure you don't get a sudden change due to the test itself changing year to year? If so you'd assume they would just apply the same principle.
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I know nothing about this but I always thought that the marks were on a curve, so a certain proportion would get certain grades- I know that’s how it works with accountancy/ tax/ treasurers exams?
 
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chiefdave

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  • Apr 3, 2020
  • #11,874
Grendel said:
How Dave with freedom of movement across Europe and open borders would you have controlled it? The EU has a pandemic committee which folded as every country adopted its own strategies
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Not sure what EU freedom of movement has to do with a worldwide pandemic. In any case its not my job to come up with the solution, that's the role of government. I was simply pointing out that it is wrong to dismiss any failings of the government with 'no one could have predicted this' when it has been widely predicted for years.

If I was in a decision making position one thing I would have certainly have done is made sure not to bring the NHS to its knees prior to any pandemic. Also think its valid to suggest more NHS capacity, including ventilators, should have been ready to go when the governments own reports state that a pandemic is likely and the NHS doesn't have sufficient ventilators to cope with it when it does occur.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Apr 3, 2020
  • #11,875
chiefdave said:
Probably one for BSB but don't grade boundaries usually get set after making has taken place to ensure you don't get a sudden change due to the test itself changing year to year? If so you'd assume they would just apply the same principle.
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Yep we wrote the mock from last year’s paper so used last year’s boundaries.
 

chiefdave

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  • Apr 3, 2020
  • #11,876
Grendel said:
Hancock was referring to a different test which had too high a failure rate
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What test was he referring to? I've only heard mention of the diagnostic test, to see if you currently have it, and the antibody test, to see if you have had it at any point.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Apr 3, 2020
  • #11,877
Ring Of Steel said:
I know nothing about this but I always thought that the marks were on a curve, so a certain proportion would get certain grades- I know that’s how it works with accountancy/ tax/ treasurers exams?
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The boundaries are designed to roughly achieve that. But we are in unchartered territory here
 
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Grendel

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  • Apr 3, 2020
  • #11,878
chiefdave said:
What test was he referring to? I've only heard mention of the diagnostic test, to see if you currently have it, and the antibody test, to see if you have had it at any point.
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a new potential swab test supplier
 

David O'Day

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  • Apr 3, 2020
  • #11,879
chiefdave said:
What test was he referring to? I've only heard mention of the diagnostic test, to see if you currently have it, and the antibody test, to see if you have had it at any point.
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The antibody test
 

Grendel

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  • Apr 3, 2020
  • #11,880
Brighton Sky Blue said:
The boundaries are designed to roughly achieve that. But we are in unchartered territory here
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Id be interested to be a fly in the wall of Mr Slacks house today
 

Grendel

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  • Apr 3, 2020
  • #11,881
David O'Day said:
The antibody test
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That wasn’t what I thought he said?
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Apr 3, 2020
  • #11,882
Grendel said:
Id be interested to be a fly in the wall of Mr Slacks house today
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He’s a clown. But we are using all of the test data we have, not just mocks. We will do it by the book and can just hope that other schools will as well plus hope for the moderation process to equalise anybody inflating grades
 

chiefdave

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  • Apr 3, 2020
  • #11,883
Brighton Sky Blue said:
There’s strong hints that the US government were warned around the same time that they were overdue for a pandemic disease going on the patterns of the past. Then in 2018 Trump sacked pandemic disease specialists in the belief it wouldn’t happen during his term.
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Trump certainly has questions to answer. Closing the White House pandemic office to save money isn't looking the smartest plan now. Also the Americans had an epidemiologist embedded in China’s disease control agency to ensure the information they got out of China was correct. That position was removed last July.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Apr 3, 2020
  • #11,884
chiefdave said:
Trump certainly has questions to answer. Closing the White House pandemic office to save money isn't looking the smartest plan now. Also the Americans had an epidemiologist embedded in China’s disease control agency to ensure the information they got out of China was correct. That position was removed last July.
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They gambled and failed.
 

SkyBlueDom26

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  • Apr 3, 2020
  • #11,885
684 have now died, RIP
 
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Grendel

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  • Apr 3, 2020
  • #11,886
Brighton Sky Blue said:
He’s a clown. But we are using all of the test data we have, not just mocks. We will do it by the book and can just hope that other schools will as well plus hope for the moderation process to equalise anybody inflating grades
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I think they always downgraded mocks to keep pupils alert and parents on their backs but also often predicted grades to suit the student and parents for their preferred choice
 

cc84cov

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  • Apr 3, 2020
  • #11,887
SkyBlueDom26 said:
684 have now died, RIP
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Climbing again will we see it hitting 1,000 before we reach peak in 2 weeks
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Apr 3, 2020
  • #11,888
Grendel said:
I think they always downgraded mocks to keep pupils alert and parents on their backs but also often predicted grades to suit the student and parents for their preferred choice
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This year I assembled the mock and made it a realistic version of what they could expect. So the grades they got in those were quite likely what they would expect to get in the end. The grade distribution we got was nearly the same as last year’s cohort in the real thing.
 
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David O'Day

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  • Apr 3, 2020
  • #11,889
cc84cov said:
Climbing again will we see it hitting 1,000 before we reach peak in 2 weeks
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To be fair no one has said they will not increase, if they didn't increase we would of peaked
 

Grendel

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  • Apr 3, 2020
  • #11,890
Brighton Sky Blue said:
This year I assembled the mock and made it a realistic version of what they could expect. So the grades they got in those were quite likely what they would expect to get in the end. The grade distribution we got was nearly the same as last year’s cohort in the real thing.
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Is that the school you were educated in?
 

covmark

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  • Apr 3, 2020
  • #11,891
684 new deaths

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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Apr 3, 2020
  • #11,892
Grendel said:
Is that the school you were educated in?
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Nope I don’t work there. I applied as a PGCE student but didn’t get the job
 

covmark

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  • Apr 3, 2020
  • #11,893
4450 new cases

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Grendel

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  • Apr 3, 2020
  • #11,894
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Nope I don’t work there. I applied as a PGCE student but didn’t get the job
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I think that’s the strategy they operate - one of mine did allegedly awful at mocks - one was an E I think and ended up AAB
 

Grendel

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  • Apr 3, 2020
  • #11,895
chiefdave said:
Fair enough. If there's no work to do then no need for them to be working. Also worth highlighting the club are paying the 20% the government isn't paying so all staff will get their full salary.

Not sure furloughing is going to work out like the government expected. There's an article on the BBC site that says the Treasury expectation was for 10% of private companies to make use of the scheme but polling results give 44% of companies saying they will furlough at least half of their employees.
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It really should be restricted to small companies and workers in pubs etc. For JLR to do it is taking the piss. they will need to tighten it up
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Apr 3, 2020
  • #11,896
Grendel said:
I think that’s the strategy they operate - one of mine did allegedly awful at mocks - one was an E I think and ended up AAB
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Our prediction rate is pretty accurate-out of 50 A level students only 3 were more than a grade outside of prediction. KH8 was far better run under George Fisher and the slide since hasn’t been pretty watching
 

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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  • Apr 3, 2020
  • #11,897
There are a lot of personal agendas going on here and whilst some of the insults are quite funny, the tone of the thread is getting a bit annoying.

It's obvious the government are pretty hopeless and have been, but I cannot for one moment see how any other opposition party would have done a better job.

Whilst there was some other countries laughing at us a bit, the reality is not many of them are much better.

Germany's figures are skewed, China lied, Belguim had to enforce stricter measures because many citizens thought it was like a holiday. Sweden are doing a worse job than us but because they are seen as progressive it gets ignored.

The whole thing is a total fuck up everywhere. If it was as bad as we are seeing now the borders should have been closed in January. My personal opinion is that many countries didn't want to appear racist so rested on their laurels for too long. It is not the only reason borders weren't closed but I'm pretty sure it is up there.

China is pretty low down the list of places I would like to visit, and that hasn't changed as a result of this.

Isn't there some statement to be released by the FL today which might give us a bit of clarity on what will happen with the season? Maybe we can chat about that for a bit.
 
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Grendel

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  • Apr 3, 2020
  • #11,898
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Our prediction rate is pretty accurate-out of 50 A level students only 3 were more than a grade outside of prediction. KH8 was far better run under George Fisher and the slide since hasn’t been pretty watching
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Yes it went really downhill after Fisher left
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Apr 3, 2020
  • #11,899
Grendel said:
Yes it went really downhill after Fisher left
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For context my missus also applied more recently and was turned down in favour of a candidate who got on the wrong train so arrived 3 hours late. It was also clear he hadn’t even read her application. They seem to always hire the most experienced teachers by default regardless of quality
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Apr 3, 2020
  • #11,900
covmark said:
4450 new cases

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Cases and deaths still growing, cases only up 5% though
 
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