Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics) (34 Viewers)

[Ring Of Steel]

BEng (Hons) Engineering. Graduated 1992.....straight into the tail-wind of the early 90s recession, 11% unemployment, double digit inflation & black wednesday.....

The pills were top notch tho.....

Liverpool '98, Psychology, then Warwick '99 for Masters in something vastly different to Psychology.. Liverpool was like one big never ending party, I absolutely adore the place

 

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[jimmyhillsfanclub]

Liverpool was like one big never ending party,

Still is lar....still is.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Announced that teachers are indeed going to decide the GCSE and A level grades. We have been asked to put the students in rank order and to do that we are using mock exams and topic test results.

 

[Grendel]

Announced that teachers are indeed going to decide the GCSE and A level grades. We have been asked to put the students in rank order and to do that we are using mock exams and topic test results.

Are mocks externality evaluated?

 

[Ring Of Steel]

Announced that teachers are indeed going to decide the GCSE and A level grades. We have been asked to put the students in rank order and to do that we are using mock exams and topic test results.

Really? Over here they announced that Leaving Cert & Junior Cert (A level & GCSE) will definitely be going ahead. Thats caused two things- mass panic in 16 & 18 yr olds who assumed exams were off and did no work, and secondly a barrage of questions about how they can do it, looks like it will be online exams.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Are mocks externality evaluated?

No, they are prepared and marked by teachers.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Really? Over here they announced that Leaving Cert & Junior Cert (A level & GCSE) will definitely be going ahead. Thats caused two things- mass panic in 16 & 18 yr olds who assumed exams were off and did no work, and secondly a barrage of questions about how they can do it, looks like it will be online exams.

With respect to the Irish bodies that’s unworkable.

 

[Grendel]

No, they are prepared and marked by teachers.

That is ridiculous- it’s going to inflate grades as it avoids potential reprisals

 

[Ring Of Steel]

With respect to the Irish bodies that’s unworkable.

luckily neither of my kids are impacted as they’re too young, but it’s causing a bit of uproar alright, no idea if they’ve thought it through fully.

... and you don’t need to worry about being respectful, if they mess up they mess up, simple as that.

 

[chiefdave]

That is ridiculous- it’s going to inflate grades as it avoids potential reprisals

Probably one for BSB but don't grade boundaries usually get set after making has taken place to ensure you don't get a sudden change due to the test itself changing year to year? If so you'd assume they would just apply the same principle.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

That is ridiculous- it’s going to inflate grades as it avoids potential reprisals

Ranking the students does provide a barrier against that though it’s not perfect.

 

[Ring Of Steel]

Probably one for BSB but don't grade boundaries usually get set after making has taken place to ensure you don't get a sudden change due to the test itself changing year to year? If so you'd assume they would just apply the same principle.

I know nothing about this but I always thought that the marks were on a curve, so a certain proportion would get certain grades- I know that’s how it works with accountancy/ tax/ treasurers exams?

 

[chiefdave]

How Dave with freedom of movement across Europe and open borders would you have controlled it? The EU has a pandemic committee which folded as every country adopted its own strategies

Not sure what EU freedom of movement has to do with a worldwide pandemic. In any case its not my job to come up with the solution, that's the role of government. I was simply pointing out that it is wrong to dismiss any failings of the government with 'no one could have predicted this' when it has been widely predicted for years.

If I was in a decision making position one thing I would have certainly have done is made sure not to bring the NHS to its knees prior to any pandemic. Also think its valid to suggest more NHS capacity, including ventilators, should have been ready to go when the governments own reports state that a pandemic is likely and the NHS doesn't have sufficient ventilators to cope with it when it does occur.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Probably one for BSB but don't grade boundaries usually get set after making has taken place to ensure you don't get a sudden change due to the test itself changing year to year? If so you'd assume they would just apply the same principle.

Yep we wrote the mock from last year’s paper so used last year’s boundaries.

 

[chiefdave]

Hancock was referring to a different test which had too high a failure rate

What test was he referring to? I've only heard mention of the diagnostic test, to see if you currently have it, and the antibody test, to see if you have had it at any point.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

I know nothing about this but I always thought that the marks were on a curve, so a certain proportion would get certain grades- I know that’s how it works with accountancy/ tax/ treasurers exams?

The boundaries are designed to roughly achieve that. But we are in unchartered territory here

 

[Grendel]

What test was he referring to? I've only heard mention of the diagnostic test, to see if you currently have it, and the antibody test, to see if you have had it at any point.

a new potential swab test supplier

 

[David O'Day]

What test was he referring to? I've only heard mention of the diagnostic test, to see if you currently have it, and the antibody test, to see if you have had it at any point.

The antibody test

 

[Grendel]

The boundaries are designed to roughly achieve that. But we are in unchartered territory here

Id be interested to be a fly in the wall of Mr Slacks house today

 

[Grendel]

The antibody test

That wasn’t what I thought he said?

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Id be interested to be a fly in the wall of Mr Slacks house today

He’s a clown. But we are using all of the test data we have, not just mocks. We will do it by the book and can just hope that other schools will as well plus hope for the moderation process to equalise anybody inflating grades

 

[chiefdave]

There’s strong hints that the US government were warned around the same time that they were overdue for a pandemic disease going on the patterns of the past. Then in 2018 Trump sacked pandemic disease specialists in the belief it wouldn’t happen during his term.

Trump certainly has questions to answer. Closing the White House pandemic office to save money isn't looking the smartest plan now. Also the Americans had an epidemiologist embedded in China’s disease control agency to ensure the information they got out of China was correct. That position was removed last July.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Trump certainly has questions to answer. Closing the White House pandemic office to save money isn't looking the smartest plan now. Also the Americans had an epidemiologist embedded in China’s disease control agency to ensure the information they got out of China was correct. That position was removed last July.

They gambled and failed.

 

[SkyBlueDom26]

684 have now died, RIP

 

[Grendel]

He’s a clown. But we are using all of the test data we have, not just mocks. We will do it by the book and can just hope that other schools will as well plus hope for the moderation process to equalise anybody inflating grades

I think they always downgraded mocks to keep pupils alert and parents on their backs but also often predicted grades to suit the student and parents for their preferred choice

 

[cc84cov]

684 have now died, RIP

Climbing again will we see it hitting 1,000 before we reach peak in 2 weeks

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

I think they always downgraded mocks to keep pupils alert and parents on their backs but also often predicted grades to suit the student and parents for their preferred choice

This year I assembled the mock and made it a realistic version of what they could expect. So the grades they got in those were quite likely what they would expect to get in the end. The grade distribution we got was nearly the same as last year’s cohort in the real thing.

 

[David O'Day]

Climbing again will we see it hitting 1,000 before we reach peak in 2 weeks

To be fair no one has said they will not increase, if they didn't increase we would of peaked

 

[Grendel]

This year I assembled the mock and made it a realistic version of what they could expect. So the grades they got in those were quite likely what they would expect to get in the end. The grade distribution we got was nearly the same as last year’s cohort in the real thing.

Is that the school you were educated in?

 

[covmark]

684 new deaths

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[Brighton Sky Blue]

Is that the school you were educated in?

Nope I don’t work there. I applied as a PGCE student but didn’t get the job

 

[covmark]

4450 new cases

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[Grendel]

Nope I don’t work there. I applied as a PGCE student but didn’t get the job

I think that’s the strategy they operate - one of mine did allegedly awful at mocks - one was an E I think and ended up AAB

 

[Grendel]

Fair enough. If there's no work to do then no need for them to be working. Also worth highlighting the club are paying the 20% the government isn't paying so all staff will get their full salary.

Not sure furloughing is going to work out like the government expected. There's an article on the BBC site that says the Treasury expectation was for 10% of private companies to make use of the scheme but polling results give 44% of companies saying they will furlough at least half of their employees.

It really should be restricted to small companies and workers in pubs etc. For JLR to do it is taking the piss. they will need to tighten it up

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

I think that’s the strategy they operate - one of mine did allegedly awful at mocks - one was an E I think and ended up AAB

Our prediction rate is pretty accurate-out of 50 A level students only 3 were more than a grade outside of prediction. KH8 was far better run under George Fisher and the slide since hasn’t been pretty watching