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wingy

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  • Mar 22, 2020
  • #6,231
Is there any data coming through on age ranges affected over there SB?
 
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djr8369

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  • Mar 22, 2020
  • #6,232
Sick Boy said:
At the moment there are no guidelines that say all no essential places should close, its said those who can work from home should, so factories, for example, have stayed open.
Takeaways can stay open,yes but restaurants/takeaways are mostly shut as restaurants were ordered to close a week ago or so now.
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That sounds currently a lot more similar to over here than I’d realised.


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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Mar 22, 2020
  • #6,233
djr8369 said:
That sounds currently a lot more similar to over here than I’d realised.


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Yeah, which makes the UK’s stance all the more crazy. Half of my colleagues (30) are/were still going into the office on a daily basis last week. The difference is that we can’t leave the house to go to the lake or sea for example.
 
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Mar 22, 2020
  • #6,234
wingy said:
Is there any data coming through on age ranges affected over there SB?
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The deaths are overwhelming elderly men but there have been reports of people in their 20s and 30s being hospitalised.
The issue is doctors having to effectively decide who lives and dies due to the health system being overwhelmed. I’ve seen it reported by UK press that Italy has twice the number of ICU places, which is very worrying.
An important note on the deaths here though is that they report every death of someone with coronavirus, not necessarily someone who died from coronavirus.
There are daily briefings on TV by the ministry of health and they always stress this point.
 
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skybluesam66

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  • Mar 22, 2020
  • #6,235
Don’t forget to phone your mum
Make sure she understands the dangers as I am not sure my elderly mum does
Maybe the best Mother’s Day present you can give
 

Grendel

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  • Mar 22, 2020
  • #6,236
Sick Boy said:
The deaths are overwhelming elderly men but there have been reports of people in their 20s and 30s being hospitalised.
The issue is doctors having to effectively decide who lives and dies due to the health system being overwhelmed. I’ve seen it reported by UK press that Italy has twice the number of ICU places, which is very worrying.
An important note on the deaths here though is that they report every death of someone with coronavirus, not necessarily someone who died from coronavirus.
There are daily briefings on TV by the ministry of health and they always stress this point.
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The death con with Coronavirus is the same as other viruses so will be the same everywhere - it’s why flu deaths have massive ranges depending on what you read

Also lockdowns are going to always have issues as Italy are acknowledging - they are saying that many are flaunting the rules and now the Russian military is going to enforce it

Germany has not had a full lockdown but a very small amount of deaths
 

Wyken Sky Blue

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  • Mar 22, 2020
  • #6,237
tisza said:
Belgium Health Minister puts ban on non-essential sexual activities of persons 3 or greater in indoor areas

Not really sure what to say.
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Just cancelled my orgy after reading this.

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Wyken Sky Blue

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  • Mar 22, 2020
  • #6,238
Was looking at buying a house in the summer but obviously that's not going to happen.

Going to be the back end of the year at the very latest and even then I cannot see many selling unless they have to to cover off debts. House prices are going to drop by about 20% at least

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Deleted member 5849

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  • Mar 22, 2020
  • #6,239
skyblue1991 said:
Was looking at buying a house in the summer but obviously that's not going to happen.

Going to be the back end of the year at the very latest and even then I cannot see many selling unless they have to to cover off debts. House prices are going to drop by about 20% at least

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The drop is potentially good though! I need to move to be closer to (not quite!) Mrs Wisdom's work. It'll stop Brighton and Grendel arguing over prices, too
 

clint van damme

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  • Mar 22, 2020
  • #6,240
Deleted member 5849 said:
Given their other stories Man hospitalized after he believed eating toilet paper could cure him from coronavirus
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Though Dom had been a bit quiet..
 
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Mar 22, 2020
  • #6,241
Grendel said:
The death con with Coronavirus is the same as other viruses so will be the same everywhere - it’s why flu deaths have massive ranges depending on what you read

Also lockdowns are going to always have issues as Italy are acknowledging - they are saying that many are flaunting the rules and now the Russian military is going to enforce it

Germany has not had a full lockdown but a very small amount of deaths
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The Russian military are going to enforce it? Really?
It’s a bit early to be drinking.
The Russians are providing medical assistance.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Mar 22, 2020
  • #6,242
Sick Boy said:
The Russian military are going to enforce it? Really?
It’s a bit early to be drinking.
The Russians are providing medical assistance.
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I would start wondering about conspiracies if the former were true
 

Grendel

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  • Mar 22, 2020
  • #6,243
Sick Boy said:
The Russian military are going to enforce it? Really?
It’s a bit early to be drinking.
The Russians are providing medical assistance.
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Coronavirus: Lockdown tightens in parts of Italy hardest hit by COVID-19
 

BornSlippySkyBlue

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  • Mar 22, 2020
  • #6,244
Sick Boy said:
The Russian military are going to enforce it? Really?
It’s a bit early to be drinking.
The Russians are providing medical assistance.
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Was trying to imagine a scenario where Russian troops are on the streets of the EU. As mad as the world has gone I find that hard to picture.
 
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BornSlippySkyBlue

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  • Mar 22, 2020
  • #6,245
Grendel said:
Coronavirus: Lockdown tightens in parts of Italy hardest hit by COVID-19
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It says ‘send assistance’ not police the population.
 
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Grendel

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  • Mar 22, 2020
  • #6,246
BornSlippySkyBlue said:
It says ‘send assistance’ not police the population.
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What will they be doing? Handing out vodka? What does sending assistance actually mean?
 

Grendel

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  • Mar 22, 2020
  • #6,247
Deleted member 5849 said:
I would start wondering about conspiracies if the former were true
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It seems very odd that any type of Russian assistance would be agreed even if it is “disinfectant vehicles and staff”
 

Sick Boy

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  • Mar 22, 2020
  • #6,248
Grendel said:
What will they be doing? Handing out vodka? What does sending assistance actually mean?
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They’re sending medical assistance, they’re not going to be enforcing a lockdown ffs.
Not even the Italian army is out patrolling the streets. There are some military checkpoints near motorways though.
 
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Sick Boy

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  • Mar 22, 2020
  • #6,249
Grendel said:
It seems very odd that any type of Russian assistance would be agreed even if it is “disinfectant vehicles and staff”
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There’s also been assistance from China over the last week, you can put your tinfoil hat away.
 
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Sick Boy

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  • Mar 22, 2020
  • #6,250
Grendel said:
It seems very odd that any type of Russian assistance would be agreed even if it is “disinfectant vehicles and staff”
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Italy and Russia have a relatively close commercial relationship.
 
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wingy

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  • Mar 22, 2020
  • #6,251
Sick Boy said:
Italy and Russia have a relatively close commercial relationship.
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Historically communism was quite a political force .
Evidence of bought elections in the past.
Not particularly surprising to me that if aid is offered it would be accepted.
Let's face it this is going to smash traditional Geo politics.
 

Sick Boy

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  • Mar 22, 2020
  • #6,252
wingy said:
Historically communism was quite a political force .
Evidence of bought elections in the past.
Not particularly surprising to me that if aid is offered it would be accepted.
Let's face it this is going to smash traditional Geo politics.
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I think at one point there were over 2million communist party members in Italy, the largest in the west, I think.
Go to the central regions and you still find communist memorials in the streets.
 
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PVA

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  • Mar 22, 2020
  • #6,253
Ring Of Steel said:
Very interesting... Patrick Vallance does not come across well if this is anywhere near true.

10 Days That Changed Britain: "Heated" Debate Between Scientists Forced Boris Johnson To Act On Coronavirus
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Unbelievable.

So 'the science changed' was absolute bollocks then, as, many on here said.

They got it wrong. They fucked up. They've cost lives. Utterly disgraceful, yet still people defend them and their initial response.
 
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Sick Boy

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  • Mar 22, 2020
  • #6,254
PVA said:
Unbelievable.

So 'the science changed' was absolute bollocks then, as, many on here said.

They got it wrong. They fucked up. They've cost lives. Utterly disgraceful, yet still people defend them and their initial response.
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These are the people who voted for Cummings to effectively run the country, what do you expect?
 
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shmmeee

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  • Mar 22, 2020
  • #6,255
Sick Boy said:
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Came to post this.

There’s gonna be some heads on spikes after the inquiry into this when it all over.

All those “don’t play politics” people who were defending this because it was their favourite politician/party should be ashamed too.
 
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clint van damme

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  • Mar 22, 2020
  • #6,256
Was always going to end badly with Cummings.
Far to gung ho and to arrogant to listen to others.
Not surprised this leaked he seems to be hated by those in and around the government with a few exceptions one of whom is the PM
 
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PVA

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  • Mar 22, 2020
  • #6,257
Sick Boy said:
These are the people who voted for Cummings to effectively run the country, what do you expect?
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Funny how they banged on about 'unelected bureaucrats' for 3 years but have no problem with this guy.
 
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Flying Fokker

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  • Mar 22, 2020
  • #6,258
SBAndy said:
Wouldn’t surprise me if lockdown was a day or so away now. The other half saw military personnel walking round Bulkington yesterday afternoon, having never seen it happen in the 24 years she’s lived there. Granted there’s a barracks down the road but just seems a little coincidental. Brace yourselves.
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Last week is saw American forces on an industrial estate in Nuneaton of all places. They’d booked a hotel. I guessed they may be working at Bramcote.
 

shmmeee

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  • Mar 22, 2020
  • #6,259

Wholly inappropriate for the job.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Mar 22, 2020
  • #6,260
Sick Boy said:
There’s also been assistance from China over the last week, you can put your tinfoil hat away.
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The West has totally dropped the ball on this. China and Russian will see it as an opportunity to step into their place and act like global leaders. All because we decided normal politicians are “boring”. Hope you’re entertained now!
 
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Sick Boy

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  • Mar 22, 2020
  • #6,261
shmmeee said:
The West has totally dropped the ball on this. China and Russian will see it as an opportunity to step into their place and act like global leaders. All because we decided normal politicians are “boring”. Hope you’re entertained now!
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What could possibly go wrong when there are people in charge who called for misfits and weirdos to be appointed in Whitehall.
 
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PVA

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  • Mar 22, 2020
  • #6,262
shmmeee said:
The West has totally dropped the ball on this. China and Russian will see it as an opportunity to step into their place and act like global leaders. All because we decided normal politicians are “boring”. Hope you’re entertained now!
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Turns out a reality TV star and a disgraced journalist don't make for good leaders , who could have seen that coming!
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Mar 22, 2020
  • #6,263
shmmeee said:
Came to post this.

There’s gonna be some heads on spikes after the inquiry into this when it all over.

All those “don’t play politics” people who were defending this because it was their favourite politician/party should be ashamed too.
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Let's not make it all about Cummings eh? It's about the whole lot of them. The TPA crowd and the Tories and the very wealthy people they're agents for. Get the fucking lot of them.
 
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BornSlippySkyBlue

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  • Mar 22, 2020
  • #6,264
shmmeee said:

Wholly inappropriate for the job.
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What, so Johnson got his arse handed to him on a plate by evil EU Macron? Well well.
 
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Skybluemichael

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  • Mar 22, 2020
  • #6,265
First death at Warwick hospital, has been there since early jan so must have got it when in hospital
 
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