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CCFCSteve

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 23, 2021
  • #53,306
Grendel said:
This is why uptake figures are misleading when quoting total population

There is a significant difference in adult take up - we are now reporting 80% over 16 vaccinated fully and Germany over 18 is at 75% - we also have 15 million boosters - it’s a significant difference
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This is spot on and why when I’ve seen media, commentators etc saying we are slipping behind other countries on vaccine roll out, basically because others have been getting kids jabbed, I’ve just put my head in my hands. The key is getting those most at risk ie adults, and more so older adults, vaccinated/protected. Jabbing kids might eventually help with herd immunity (I’m current not convinced herd immunity is achievable if boosters are required annually) and look good for figures but ultimately they are unlikely to get seriously ill

We have had very high case numbers recently because of the school testing but if they’re asymptomatic or not really impacted virus it doesn’t really matter as long as we are protecting those at risk...unfortunately there’s a load of idiots who prefer to remain unprotected !

I’m hoping the decision to allow Covid to spread gradually over summer, the 12 wk gap between jabs and the greater focus on getting more adults vaccinated quickly, all of which were calculated gambles, will pay off, but these gambles will only work in conjunction with a successful booster programme
 

Warthog

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 23, 2021
  • #53,307
 

clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 23, 2021
  • #53,308
Warthog said:
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I know, people retweeting James Melville- terrifying.
 
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Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 23, 2021
  • #53,309
People like this just should be removed off social media

 
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SBT

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  • Nov 23, 2021
  • #53,310
Fair play to anyone who managed to watch two whole minutes of that Jeremy Vine show, I had to tap out after 90 seconds.
 

Grendel

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  • Nov 23, 2021
  • #53,311
SBT said:
Fair play to anyone who managed to watch two whole minutes of that Jeremy Vine show, I had to tap out after 90 seconds.
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Jealous that the former CET journalist Jeremy is now a half a million pound a year presenter and your best position at the CET was Simon Gilberts latrine boy?
 
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fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 23, 2021
  • #53,312
Grendel said:
Jealous that the former CET journalist Jeremy is now a half a million pound a year presenter and your best position at the CET was Simon Gilberts latrine boy?
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Vine amplifies the sort of person your previous post on this topic was about.
 
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CCFCSteve

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 23, 2021
  • #53,313
Bayern not paying five unvaccinated players who are self isolating !
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 23, 2021
  • #53,314
fernandopartridge said:
Vine amplifies the sort of person your previous post on this topic was about.
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Beverley?
 

Skybluefaz

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 23, 2021
  • #53,315
CCFCSteve said:
Bayern not paying five unvaccinated players who are self isolating !
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That is surprising, I wonder if they signed amended conditions to their contracts. I suppose such high value contracts might already cover this sort of thing though.
 
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SBT

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 23, 2021
  • #53,316
Grendel said:
Jealous that the former CET journalist Jeremy is now a half a million pound a year presenter and your best position at the CET was Simon Gilberts latrine boy?
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Haha he was at the CET?! That checks out. Should've guessed you were a fan!
 
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Deleted member 5849

Guest
  • Nov 23, 2021
  • #53,317
CCFCSteve said:
Bayern not paying five unvaccinated players who are self isolating !
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On the one level that seem harsh, but I guess we've just got rid of a player for not taking care of themselves and giving themselves the best opportunity to play.
 

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 23, 2021
  • #53,318
Deleted member 5849 said:
On the one level that seem harsh, but I guess we've just got rid of a player for not taking care of themselves and giving themselves the best opportunity to play.
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I see your point, but I think it is a bit difficult to compare a player who was going out and getting drunk then not turning up, to someone who hasn´t had a jab. Particularly as they could have caught it even if they had of had it.

Anyway, the less said about Bright the better probably.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 23, 2021
  • #53,319
CCFCSteve said:
This is spot on and why when I’ve seen media, commentators etc saying we are slipping behind other countries on vaccine roll out, basically because others have been getting kids jabbed, I’ve just put my head in my hands. The key is getting those most at risk ie adults, and more so older adults, vaccinated/protected. Jabbing kids might eventually help with herd immunity (I’m current not convinced herd immunity is achievable if boosters are required annually) and look good for figures but ultimately they are unlikely to get seriously ill

We have had very high case numbers recently because of the school testing but if they’re asymptomatic or not really impacted virus it doesn’t really matter as long as we are protecting those at risk...unfortunately there’s a load of idiots who prefer to remain unprotected !

I’m hoping the decision to allow Covid to spread gradually over summer, the 12 wk gap between jabs and the greater focus on getting more adults vaccinated quickly, all of which were calculated gambles, will pay off, but these gambles will only work in conjunction with a successful booster programme
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It is still causing not inconsiderable disruption to education, meanwhile. They shouldn’t be made to isolate.
 

ajsccfc

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 24, 2021
  • #53,320
Got my booster booked in. Happy to get it sorted, depressed that I'm now old enough to qualify for it
 
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Nov 24, 2021
  • #53,321
https://www.thelocal.it/20211124/latest-italy-announces-covid-super-green-pass-restrictions-on-unvaccinated/

The government is also making boosters accessible 5 months after the 2nd vaccine dose - seems a bit short to me.
 
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Kieranp96

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 24, 2021
  • #53,322
Sick Boy said:
https://www.thelocal.it/20211124/latest-italy-announces-covid-super-green-pass-restrictions-on-unvaccinated/

The government is also making boosters accessible 5 months after the 2nd vaccine dose - seems a bit short to me.
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Most other countrys are 4 months after 2nd jab.
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Nov 24, 2021
  • #53,323
Kieranp96 said:
Most other countrys are 4 months after 2nd jab.
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Like where?
 

Grendel

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  • Nov 24, 2021
  • #53,324
Sick Boy said:
https://www.thelocal.it/20211124/latest-italy-announces-covid-super-green-pass-restrictions-on-unvaccinated/

The government is also making boosters accessible 5 months after the 2nd vaccine dose - seems a bit short to me.
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The uk have now done close to 15 million I think strictly round a 6 month rule so I doubt it’s going to have much of a concern tbh
 
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Deleted member 5849

Guest
  • Nov 24, 2021
  • #53,325
Grendel said:
The uk have now done close to 15 million I think strictly round a 6 month rule so I doubt it’s going to have much of a concern tbh
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Certainly is strictly six months. Earliest I can get mine is... Christmas Eve(!)
 

Grendel

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  • Nov 24, 2021
  • #53,326
Deleted member 5849 said:
Certainly is strictly six months. Earliest I can get mine is... Christmas Eve(!)
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Yes I’ve got mine literally on the day i am allowed
 
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Deleted member 5849

Guest
  • Nov 24, 2021
  • #53,327
Grendel said:
Yes I’ve got mine literally on the day i am allowed
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Given the date,I might ring them up next week and see if there's *any* flexibility to move it at least a couple of days earlier!
 

clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 24, 2021
  • #53,328
Grendel said:
Yes I’ve got mine literally on the day i am allowed
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Same, 13th of December for booster, 2nd jab was June 13th.
 
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Kieranp96

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  • Nov 24, 2021
  • #53,329
Sick Boy said:
Like where?
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Hungary, pretty sure iran, dubai and s few other things
 

Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 25, 2021
  • #53,330
Bello said:
Fully-Vaxxed Gibraltar Sees 2500 PERCENT SPIKE in COVID-19 Cases Per Day, Initiates New Lockdowns
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Do you just make this stuff up?

Covid-19 cases continue to rise, hospitalisation low

The number of active cases of Covid-19 in Gibraltar stood at 747 on Monday, though hospitalisations remained low. There was just one person on the Covid-19 ward in St Bernard’s Hospital and none in the critical care unit. A further 842 people...
www.chronicle.gi
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Nov 25, 2021
  • #53,331
Sky Blue Pete said:
Do you just make this stuff up?

Covid-19 cases continue to rise, hospitalisation low

The number of active cases of Covid-19 in Gibraltar stood at 747 on Monday, though hospitalisations remained low. There was just one person on the Covid-19 ward in St Bernard’s Hospital and none in the critical care unit. A further 842 people...
www.chronicle.gi
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They have cancelled some Christmas events, and asked people to consider how they want to run their Christmas.

That being said, they've also had four deaths from Covid since vaccines took hold. It's clear they're working.
 

Skybluefaz

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  • Nov 25, 2021
  • #53,332
Bello said:
Fully-Vaxxed Gibraltar Sees 2500 PERCENT SPIKE in COVID-19 Cases Per Day, Initiates New Lockdowns
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Have you met @baldy? Maybe you and him can exchange bullshit opinions elsewhere and leave this place to the grown ups?
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Nov 25, 2021
  • #53,333
Kieranp96 said:
Hungary, pretty sure iran, dubai and s few other things
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So not ‘most countries’ then?
 
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Earlsdon_Skyblue1

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 25, 2021
  • #53,334
Deleted member 5849 said:
They have cancelled some Christmas events, and asked people to consider how they want to run their Christmas.

That being said, they've also had four deaths from Covid since vaccines took hold. It's clear they're working.
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How many deaths did they have before?
 
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Deleted member 5849

Guest
  • Nov 25, 2021
  • #53,335
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
How many deaths did they have before?
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Four deaths since March, considered to be when they hit full vaccination rate. V vast majority of their 94 other deaths were in January and early February, when vaccination rates were still low.
 

jimmyhillsfanclub

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  • Nov 25, 2021
  • #53,336
check out the font size on bello.....an apt username atleast.....
 
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chiefdave

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  • Nov 25, 2021
  • #53,337
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
How many deaths did they have before?
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Earlsdon_Skyblue1

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 25, 2021
  • #53,338
Deleted member 5849 said:
Four deaths since March, considered to be when they hit full vaccination rate. V vast majority of their 94 other deaths were in January and early February, when vaccination rates were still low.
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So if they are working well (which they look to be), why are they cancelling Christmas events?

It looks like a full lockdown is going to be implemented here. Cue the riots.
 

Skybluefaz

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 25, 2021
  • #53,339
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
So if they are working well (which they look to be), why are they cancelling Christmas events?

It looks like a full lockdown is going to be implemented here. Cue the riots.
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Presumably they have looked at the data on the vaccine waning from Israel and the UK etc and made a decision based on that. How is the booster program going in the Netherlands, you been offered a booster yet?
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Nov 25, 2021
  • #53,340
Skybluefaz said:
Presumably they have looked at the data on the vaccine waning from Israel and the UK etc and made a decision based on that. How is the booster program going in the Netherlands, you been offered a booster yet?
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Yep, they're rolling out their booster programme, recognise there is a period where, with waning effectiveness of vaccines, there is an increased risk, and are taking some relatively small measures to offset that.
 
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