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shmmeee

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  • Jul 19, 2021
  • #49,841
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
I can understand allowing people more freedoms if they have had the jab during mid-pandemic, but going forwards a few years and you start saying people can't go to certain things unless they have had a vaccination, it *could* start a dangerous precedent.
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Could it? Lots of places require vaccination for various things, measles, yellow fever. You’re a man of the world surely you’ve come across immunisation requirements when travelling before?
 
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shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 19, 2021
  • #49,842
Ccfcisparks said:
Same for me. A little girl asked her mother why I wasn't wearing a mask so I got up and loudly coughed in her face. The whole train got up and clapped.
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That little girls name? Albert Einstein
 
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Earlsdon_Skyblue1

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 19, 2021
  • #49,843
shmmeee said:
Could it? Lots of places require vaccination for various things, measles, yellow fever. You’re a man of the world surely you’ve come across immunisation requirements when travelling before?
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Sure, I've had many advisable vaccinations for travel, but I've never been 'not allowed' to go somewhere or do something because of it. I've also not had certain vaccinations. It has been a personal decision.
 

Skybluefaz

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 19, 2021
  • #49,844
shmmeee said:
Could it? Lots of places require vaccination for various things, measles, yellow fever. You’re a man of the world surely you’ve come across immunisation requirements when travelling before?
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Tommo1993

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 19, 2021
  • #49,845
shmmeee said:
That little girls name? Albert Einstein
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My guess was Charles Darwin.
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 19, 2021
  • #49,846
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
Sure, I've had many advisable vaccinations for travel, but I've never been 'not allowed' to go somewhere or do something because of it. I've also not had certain vaccinations. It has been a personal decision.
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Then you’ve not gone to any of these countries: Vaccination requirements for international travel - Wikipedia

It might be new to western countries, but it’s a long established precedent.
 

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 19, 2021
  • #49,847
shmmeee said:
Then you’ve not gone to any of these countries: Vaccination requirements for international travel - Wikipedia

It might be new to western countries, but it’s a long established precedent.
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I can't vouch for Africa because I've never been, but much of the rest or that map is incorrect.
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 19, 2021
  • #49,848
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
I can't vouch for Africa because I've never been, but much of the rest or that map is incorrect.
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Most of the relevant areas are in Africa.

Here’s the primary source from the WHO:https://cdn.who.int/media/docs/defa...26may2021.pdf?sfvrsn=f8d06644_1&download=true

The point stands that countries have always been able to ask for vaccination records before allowing entry and this isn’t new.
 

hill83

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 19, 2021
  • #49,849
baldy said:
Why's anybody who says anything that differs with the majority on heres thinking a troll? People are allowed to have different opinions
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Yeah, opinions all day. But responding “DONT GO DEN” like a toddler to someone saying they are worried. You are going to get some responses you don’t like. Don’t like it?

DONT POST DEN
 
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Earlsdon_Skyblue1

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 19, 2021
  • #49,850
shmmeee said:
Most of the relevant areas are in Africa.

Here’s the primary source from the WHO:https://cdn.who.int/media/docs/defa...26may2021.pdf?sfvrsn=f8d06644_1&download=true

The point stands that countries have always been able to ask for vaccination records before allowing entry and this isn’t new.
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I've never had to show proof of vaccination anywhere in the world, and I have been to all continents apart from Antarctica and Africa.

If you are saying there are rules on entering countries in either of those two places regarding mandatory vaccinations then maybe you are right.

That said, they are largely third world countries, which aren't usually the best places to pull policies from. Secondly, the diseases you are being vaccinated against are almost certainly a lot more dangerous than covid. (I know that isn't necessarily the point, but even so)

It has very little to do with me being allowed to go to DiggerLand.
 

David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 19, 2021
  • #49,851
shmmeee said:
That little girls name? Albert Einstein
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Hermann loves Pauline
 
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Saddlebrains

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  • Jul 19, 2021
  • #49,852
Vallance has tweeted he got it wrong in the presser.


60%of admissions in the UNvaccinated.

28% 1 dose

12% 2 doses
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 19, 2021
  • #49,853
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
I've never had to show proof of vaccination anywhere in the world, and I have been to all continents apart from Antarctica and Africa.

If you are saying there are rules on entering countries in either of those two places regarding mandatory vaccinations then maybe you are right.

That said, they are largely third world countries, which aren't usually the best places to pull policies from. Secondly, the diseases you are being vaccinated against are almost certainly a lot more dangerous than covid. (I know that isn't necessarily the point, but even so)

It has very little to do with me being allowed to go to DiggerLand.
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How odd to make the wealth level of the country a deciding factor in how good a policy is. Not bringing undesirable pathogens into the country makes sense regardless of it being the UK or Yemen
 
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David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 19, 2021
  • #49,854
Saddlebrains said:
Vallance has tweeted he got it wrong in the presser.


60%of admissions in the UNvaccinated.

28% 1 dose

12% 2 doses
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Still higher than people thought it was
 

Saddlebrains

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 19, 2021
  • #49,855
David O'Day said:
Still higher than people thought it was
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Oh deffo.

But again shows to get double jabbed when possible
 
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CCFCSteve

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 19, 2021
  • #49,856
Saddlebrains said:
Vallance has tweeted he got it wrong in the presser.


60%of admissions in the UNvaccinated.

28% 1 dose

12% 2 doses
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Considering 68% of adult population is double jabbed only 12%* of total hospitalisations is low/good.

*appreciate there’s unfortunately a small number of kids in that number
 
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shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 19, 2021
  • #49,857
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
I've never had to show proof of vaccination anywhere in the world, and I have been to all continents apart from Antarctica and Africa.

If you are saying there are rules on entering countries in either of those two places regarding mandatory vaccinations then maybe you are right.

That said, they are largely third world countries, which aren't usually the best places to pull policies from. Secondly, the diseases you are being vaccinated against are almost certainly a lot more dangerous than covid. (I know that isn't necessarily the point, but even so)

It has very little to do with me being allowed to go to DiggerLand.
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Well most first world countries don’t have problems with yellow fever, they have problems with COVID.

Seriously though, what’s the big deal about not spreading disease? I don’t get it.
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 19, 2021
  • #49,858
Saddlebrains said:
Vallance has tweeted he got it wrong in the presser.


60%of admissions in the UNvaccinated.

28% 1 dose

12% 2 doses
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Been spending too much time around the government clearly. Some of that stupid has rubbed off on him.
 

Evo1883

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 19, 2021
  • #49,859
 

fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 19, 2021
  • #49,860
CCFCSteve said:
Considering 68% of adult population is double jabbed only 12%* of total hospitalisations is low/good.

*appreciate there’s unfortunately a small number of kids in that number
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And of that 68% it includes the cohorts that cover 80+% of hospitalisations anyway
 

Evo1883

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 19, 2021
  • #49,861
We are at the point now where refusing the vaccine is just pointless and dangerous to yourself .

Too many vaccinated to be a mass cull as some would say and I don't think they have a Liquid form of body chips .

It makes very little sense to keep the act up much longer to Impress your dead head mates or your 15 social media followers .

And the earth is not flat either

Get jabbed
 
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Deleted member 5849

Guest
  • Jul 19, 2021
  • #49,862
Saddlebrains said:
Vallance has tweeted he got it wrong in the presser.


60%of admissions in the UNvaccinated.

28% 1 dose

12% 2 doses
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That's quite a cockup!
 
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LastGarrison

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  • Jul 19, 2021
  • #49,863
Deleted member 5849 said:
That's quite a cockup!
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Especially when all the questions have clearly been approved in advance!
 

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 19, 2021
  • #49,864
Brighton Sky Blue said:
How odd to make the wealth level of the country a deciding factor in how good a policy is. Not bringing undesirable pathogens into the country makes sense regardless of it being the UK or Yemen
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So you think there would be no problem in having the same policies here as somewhere like, Somalia?
 

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 19, 2021
  • #49,865
shmmeee said:
Well most first world countries don’t have problems with yellow fever, they have problems with COVID.

Seriously though, what’s the big deal about not spreading disease? I don’t get it.
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There is no big deal about not spreading disease. That isn't my point whatsoever.
 
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CCFCSteve

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 19, 2021
  • #49,866
Evo1883 said:
We are at the point now where refusing the vaccine is just pointless and dangerous to yourself .

Too many vaccinated to be a mass cull as some would say and I don't think they have a Liquid form of body chips .
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Ive always felt it’s each to their own on vaccine choice but the government suggesting vaccine passports for nightclubs late Sept indicates they’re concerned youngsters just won’t get them unless coerced/forced. Only 12k first doses Sunday. 30% of 18-30 years olds unvaccinated. Add that to anti vax loons and its hard to get total vaccinated up much more

I could understand initial vaccine reticence but the real world data is there for all to see regarding it stopping severe illness and most should know someone’s who’s caught it by now

edit - sorry, 18k first doses Sunday. Done a vallance !
 
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Deleted member 9744

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  • Jul 19, 2021
  • #49,867
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
Sure, I've had many advisable vaccinations for travel, but I've never been 'not allowed' to go somewhere or do something because of it. I've also not had certain vaccinations. It has been a personal decision.
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I've had to have vaccinations in the past to go to places
 

fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 19, 2021
  • #49,868
CCFCSteve said:
Ive always felt it’s each to their own on vaccine choice but the government suggesting vaccine passports for nightclubs late Sept indicates they’re concerned youngsters just won’t get them unless coerced/forced. Only 12k first doses Sunday. 30% of 18-30 years olds unvaccinated. Add that to anti vax loons and its hard to get total vaccinated up much more

I could understand initial vaccine reticence but the real world data is there for all to see regarding it stopping severe illness and most should know someone’s who’s caught it by now
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Think this is a nudge rather than an actual likely reality, hence the long lead in time.
 
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Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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  • Jul 19, 2021
  • #49,869
Deleted member 9744 said:
I've had to have vaccinations in the past to go to places
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Where did you go that required them?
 

COV

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 19, 2021
  • #49,870
CCFCSteve said:
Ive always felt it’s each to their own on vaccine choice
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Do you think seatbelts are a matter of personal choice?
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jul 19, 2021
  • #49,871
COV said:
Do you think seatbelts are a matter of personal choice?
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Or headlights or driving on the right side of the road
 

David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 19, 2021
  • #49,872
fernandopartridge said:
Think this is a nudge rather than an actual likely reality, hence the long lead in time.
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it's going to happen
 
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skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 19, 2021
  • #49,873
When I go around a roundabout I always indicate the opposite direction to what I’m about to go. Personal choice.
 

COV

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 19, 2021
  • #49,874
He’s at it again

Covid: Boris Johnson resisted autumn lockdown as only over-80s dying - Dominic Cummings

Boris Johnson also questioned whether the NHS would be overwhelmed, his former aide tells the BBC.
www.bbc.com
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 19, 2021
  • #49,875
COV said:
He’s at it again

Covid: Boris Johnson resisted autumn lockdown as only over-80s dying - Dominic Cummings

Boris Johnson also questioned whether the NHS would be overwhelmed, his former aide tells the BBC.
www.bbc.com
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Badly written article makes it hard to tell what they’ve seen proof for and what’s speculation, but if that’s true Johnson comes across like fucking baldy. Surprised he didn’t ask MI5 to look into the 5G stuff.
 
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