Brighton Sky Blue
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One Nation Tory...just one nation of the UK left when he leaves office
There’s millions agree Boris trumps Keir
That's fine
I just hope they can hold their hands up for enabling this shit show though of course they won't even though if Corbyn had been elected and overseen this disaster people who voted for him would be getting pelters.
We've seem leavers trying to blame remainers for Brexits early failings already This week. That's the mindset we're now dealing with.in this country now.
What is a lazy opinion is believing that anyone other than the tories should get into power by default because the former are shit.
The competition has been consistently rejected by the general public. If you got relegated every season would you point the blame elsewhere or accept you were doing something wrong?
I genuinely believe a lot of people want to have someone else to vote for, but they cannot find anyone that represents them. I'm certainly in that camp. The fact that the tories keep winning suggests to me that the alternative is even worse. Trust me, I wish it wasn't the case, but it is. Apart from Blair, how many elections have Labour won in the last 100 years? They keep alienating potential voters.
I have very little good to say about the tories or Johnson (vaccine otherwise), just for the record.
For five years we have had endured sneering from remain voters who have celebrated every potential downfall of brexit and now all we see when the EU fuck up with the vaccine is; 'don't play politics'. Come on mate.
Yes, if Corbyn was in power and this was happening I suspect he would be getting more of a hard time, but you really think Johnson isn't? I saw a survey where 70% of people said he should resign.
I agree with your statement regarding politician accountability. There isn't any. But we are now living in a society where no one can ever accept they did anything wrong. All it means is that when people try and defend the indefensible, they just look silly. As I said, Starmer is the best chance Labour have had in a while. If he can sort some of their own shit out, come election time we might see a change. I suspect the handling of this virus will play a big part, but that also includes the vaccine roll out.
You expect people not to point out stuff like the current state of the fishing industry given the bright post Brexit future that industry was sold?
Or the problems exporting which were dismissed as project fear when they were hilighted years ago?
Or the fact that we didn't sign the fabled 40 trade deals the day after leaving as many of us predicted? Come on. Of course people are going to say I told you so.
And no Johnson isn't getting a hard time. He's getting a very easy ride in the circumstances and even sympathy which is shameful.
They are called wealth creators!!! Come onThis is a guy who says Starmer ‘answers to his union paymasters’ while ignoring that he answers to his oligarch paymasters
Some of that shit like losing freedom of movement, potentially losing workers rights is a crusher. Far from a celebration.remain voters who have celebrated every potential downfall
They are called wealth creators!!! Come on
There’s millions agree Boris trumps Keir
Some of that shit like losing freedom of movement, potentially losing workers rights is a crusher. Far from a celebration.
You expect people not to point out stuff like the current state of the fishing industry given the bright post Brexit future that industry was sold?
Or the problems exporting which were dismissed as project fear when they were hilighted years ago?
Or the fact that we didn't sign the fabled 40 trade deals the day after leaving as many of us predicted? Come on. Of course people are going to say I told you so.
And no Johnson isn't getting a hard time. He's getting a very easy ride in the circumstances and even sympathy which is shameful.
The Tories aren’t the default. The same question to you of why should they get in power because you think the others are shit?
The general way politics works is governments lose elections and the other lot are given a go. Why should there be some higher bar here just because it’s the Tories and large parts of the U.K. public have some weird posh man domination fetish?
What happened before the war couldn’t be more irrelevant. Stick to today, you can’t vote out Blair or vote in Churchill in 2021.
I think I must be reading a different forum as I'm seeing people on here criticising the EU over their vaccine stance.Look at the reaction to this vaccine scandal. People just refuse to cricise the EU for anything. It's all well and good complaining one way then crying the other. Give me a break.
Boris saying provisional school reopening of March 8th
What is a lazy opinion is believing that anyone other than the tories should get into power by default because the former are shit.
The competition has been consistently rejected by the general public. If you got relegated every season would you point the blame elsewhere or accept you were doing something wrong?
I genuinely believe a lot of people want to have someone else to vote for, but they cannot find anyone that represents them. I'm certainly in that camp. The fact that the tories keep winning suggests to me that the alternative is even worse. Trust me, I wish it wasn't the case, but it is. Apart from Blair, how many elections have Labour won in the last 100 years? They keep alienating potential voters.
I have very little good to say about the tories or Johnson (vaccine otherwise), just for the record.
A wonderful quote I heard, sadly I cannot remember the source (it might have been on James O’Brien’s LBC programme), is that Johnson wanted two things; to become Prime Minister and to say that he was Prime Minister. Sadly the bit in between of actually being Prime Minister is somewhat of an inconvenience.
There’s millions agree Boris trumps Keir
So what are the facts informing your opinion that the opposition are a joke compared to the current incumbents? So I can get your point of view.Yes, but it goes a lot further than that, and you know it.
It is nothing to do with the genuine concerns regarding brexit. It's every fucking thing.
Look at the reaction to this vaccine scandal. People just refuse to cricise the EU for anything. It's all well and good complaining one way then crying the other. Give me a break.
Sadly that's todays obsession with personality politics, which Johnson wins hands down. When it comes to competence and ability it's not even a contest. Like putting a Heavyweight in with a Strawweight.
Fake news.I think I must be reading a different forum as I'm seeing people on here criticising the EU over their vaccine stance.
I quite like Starmer certainly looks PM material.He even sacked the ‘Crazy Commie’ and beat him in court. What more do folks want
Labour keep losing. Perhaps people should listen to the ones not voting for them and something might get learnt.
It's pretty basic. You want to win voters over then their concerns need to be listened to.
It is nothing to do with the genuine concerns regarding brexit. It's every fucking thing.
Look at the reaction to this vaccine scandal. People just refuse to cricise the EU for anything. It's all well and good complaining one way then crying the other. Give me a break.
I quite like Starmer certainly looks PM material.
Could Labour get a majority without Scotland though?
Fake news.
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If you looked you would see me challenging DOD on his claims on the AZ/EU vaccine dispute.
in 1997 and 2001 they definitely would of had a majority without Scotland and I think that might be true of 2005 as wellI quite like Starmer certainly looks PM material.
Could Labour get a majority without Scotland though?
ESB is talking whiff, you've been far harder on the EU in this regard than most
I agree on the former and disagree on the latter
yeah but i'm just trying to be nice
Britain's Pfizer vaccine supply threatened by new rules expected to be approved by European Commission
Tensions between the UK and EU over vaccine supplies have reached a crisis pointwww.telegraph.co.uk
Oh dear.
The first couple of lines sound bad but it's behind a firewall
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