Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics) (35 Viewers)

[shmmeee]

He’s like some of the worst teachers I’ve worked with

Said it before, big crap supply teacher energy.

 

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[David O'Day]

I agree but it doesn't make it right.

Can we also agree that the Chairman of AZ flouncing off is only going to make the situation worse?

 

[David O'Day]

No it is a type of agreement that accounts for unexpected production issues.

seen it?

 

[fernandopartridge]

Can we also agree that the Chairman of AZ flouncing off is only going to make the situation worse?

Only if the reason for the flounce isn't to attend to something that relates to addressing the supply issue

 

[David O'Day]

Only if the reason for the flounce isn't to attend to something that relates to addressing the supply issue

Seems to have cancelled his meeting with them because they are angry at him

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

seen it?

They haven’t published it, that’s what the AZ boss is claiming was agreed, the EU claim the opposite

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Said it before, big crap supply teacher energy.

‘I said they could do homework if they wanted but not if they found it difficult’

 

[hill83]

Can we also agree that the Chairman of AZ flouncing off is only going to make the situation worse?

Britain and EU clash over claims to UK-produced Covid vaccine

EU health commissioner dismisses AstraZeneca argument it is contractually obliged to supply UK first

www.theguardian.com

 

[David O'Day]

Britain and EU clash over claims to UK-produced Covid vaccine

EU health commissioner dismisses AstraZeneca argument it is contractually obliged to supply UK first

www.theguardian.com

Ah the called out for flouncing off so pretend not to flounce move.

Classic since primary school

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

That would be how any other business would work. You go through the orders as recieved. If we ordered first we get delivery first.

Didn't we gamble and place orders way before we knew if it worked and promised to pay even if it didn't?

Of course if I was in the EU and being told there's no jabs to be had as we're on a waiting list I'm sure I'd be demanding something be done, especially if while being told there was none available they were being exported to other countries.

Certainly questions to be asked about how many orders were accepted and more importantly what promises were made about delivery times and how realistic those promises were.

I agree getting orders fulfilled in the order they're placed. I think the EU are using the fact they paid up front as leverage (I'm assuming from this that we didn't btw) and this muddies the water a bit (tho in my opinion they are still mainly in the wrong here).

Say if someone ordered before you on credit and you paid up front a bit later you would feel a bit aggrieved that you'd already paid, they hadn't, yet they were getting orders fulfilled. IMO if that's how the contracts are made out the company has the obligation to fulfil them in the order received unless the up front payment contract specifically says they get to 'jump the queue'.

The issue for me is that it requires two doses and if we've started the rollout based on that and if we don't get the order in a timely fashion it will badly effect the timetable that should take precedent. Of course I feel in our rollout we should take these potential production problems into account and set aside each shipment accordingly (i.e. if we got 30m doses delivered we treat that as 15m to ensure those that got their first jab will get their second to make it as effective as possible).

I'm sure if it were the other way round we'd be complaining we hadn't received any of our order despite paying up front.

 

[hill83]

Ah the called out for flouncing off so pretend not to flounce move.

Classic since primary school

I remember we clashed early on when you were convinced the virus wasn't going to be anything bad and last season wasn't going to be abandoned and you'd "dealt with" everyone, so I'll leave it thanks. You were the dribblingly positive corona guy at the time.

 

[It’sabatch87]

The vaccine roll-out proves Britain’s better off without the Euro Mafia

The vaccine roll-out proves Britain's better off without the Euro Mafia

THE EU’s true colours are now starkly exposed to its enraged citizens and even UK fans who have supported it for so long. On vaccines, it is paying the price of its cumbersome bureaucracy and woefu…

www.thesun.co.uk

 

[hill83]

The vaccine roll-out proves Britain’s better off without the Euro Mafia

The vaccine roll-out proves Britain's better off without the Euro Mafia

THE EU’s true colours are now starkly exposed to its enraged citizens and even UK fans who have supported it for so long. On vaccines, it is paying the price of its cumbersome bureaucracy and woefu…

www.thesun.co.uk

Posting an opinion piece offers nothing

 

[David O'Day]

I remember we clashed early on when you were convinced the virus wasn't going to be anything bad and last season wasn't going to be abandoned and you'd "dealt with" everyone, so I'll leave it thanks. You were the dribblingly positive corona guy at the time.

I've already admitted I called that wrong

 

[David O'Day]

Posting an opinion piece offers nothing

A "Sun" opinion piece as well

 

[hill83]

I've already admitted I called that wrong

I know, but the way you went about it at the time puts me off engaging now.

 

[David O'Day]

I know, but the way you went about it at the time puts me off engaging now.

I have no interest in fighting about it so let's call it quits

 

[shmmeee]

‘I said they could do homework if they wanted but not if they found it difficult’

“I just let them have five minutes of games at the start to get it out their system”

 

[chiefdave]

I agree getting orders fulfilled in the order they're placed. I think the EU are using the fact they paid up front as leverage (I'm assuming from this that we didn't btw) and this muddies the water a bit (tho in my opinion they are still mainly in the wrong here).

Looking at some old press releases it seems 700 million doses had already been ordered, including by the UK, by the time the EU got around to ordering.

As for paying up front that may be a case of semantics as the UK government put a considerable amount into the development of the vaccine and improvements in manufacturing capacity. Part of that funding was an agreement that a proportion of those doses manufacturers would go to developing countries that couldn't afford to buy the vaccine.

Not sure how far the EU can really push this. At the end of the day demand far outstrips supply so you'd think the manufacturer holds all the cards.

 

[It’sabatch87]

A "Sun" opinion piece as well

I feel the same way about that guardian liberal rag as well

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

I feel the same way about that guardian liberal rag as well

You do realise how much funding our universities got in EU research money right?

 

[David O'Day]

The EU strike first blow

Covid: Wrexham vaccine production resumes after suspect package

The Army sends a bomb disposal unit to a site where the Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine is produced.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

The EU strike first blow

Covid: Wrexham vaccine production resumes after suspect package

The Army sends a bomb disposal unit to a site where the Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine is produced.

www.bbc.co.uk

Not really funny though is it

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Boris saying provisional school reopening of March 8th

 

[hill83]

Boris saying provisional school reopening of March 8th

2 weeks notice as well of any reopenings.

 

[It’sabatch87]

Not really funny though is it

Not really funny though is it

It’s ok his sort have always liked sending suspect packages!!

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

2 weeks notice as well of any reopenings.

Concerns me he is assuming that immunity kicks in 3 weeks after just one jab

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

It’s ok his sort have always liked sending suspect packages!!

I wasn’t going to say that out loud

 

[hill83]

Starmer is going in like a half time teamtalk at 3-0 down. I just don’t buy him though.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Starmer is going in like a half time teamtalk at 3-0 down. I just don’t buy him though.

Annoys me that he takes pauses every 3-4 words

 

[hill83]

Annoys me that he takes pauses every 3-4 words

A technique to avoid saying ‘er’. Bloke at work does it and needs chinning.

 

[shmmeee]

The EU strike first blow

Covid: Wrexham vaccine production resumes after suspect package

The Army sends a bomb disposal unit to a site where the Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine is produced.

www.bbc.co.uk

Fucking hell. We need to start locking these fucking morons up. And prosecuting the media morons who put them up to it.

People’s right to grift morons online doesn’t come ahead of others right to life.

 

[hill83]

Bozza with schools are safe but with kids in aren’t safe again. Ha ha

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Johnson saying again schools are safe and Starmer should defy his ‘union paymasters’.

Keir selling out to ‘Big Teaching’ yet again

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Johnson adamant that teachers shouldn’t get vaccinated