Conor Chaplin (9 Viewers)

Sick Boy · Nov 17, 2018

He's okay and it's his hard to judge him as he hasnt played consistently before us. Those who were claiming their bets on him being top scorer was like printing money need their heads testing.

Earlsdon_Skyblue1 · Nov 17, 2018

I don't think he'll score double figures to be honest.

Maybe an investment, but it's hard to swallow when we had such a good striker last season we've now lost. Might be a shit comparison, but it's hard not to make it.

Otis · Nov 17, 2018

I like him.

It's down to MR and training schemes to make sure he's when he should be in the pitch instead of him chasing lost causes.

He's trying to do it all at the moment and that needs tempering.

Grendel · Nov 17, 2018

Otis said:
I like him.

It's down to MR and training schemes to make sure he's when he should be in the pitch instead of him chasing lost causes.

He's trying to do it all at the moment and that needs tempering.

He has missed glaring chances

Otis · Nov 17, 2018

Grendel said:
He has missed glaring chances

He has, but so did McNulty early doors last season.

Fact is and it's something we all accept, Chaplin isn't in the box in key areas enough.

johnwillomagic · Nov 17, 2018

A very difficult comparison...for starters McNulty was playing League 2 whereas Chaplin is playing a league above.
What had McNulty done this year in the Championship?.....would he be as effective in League one as he was in League 2?
Would Chaplin destroy league 2 defences? I think his movement probably would have done - this league is a step up from last year!

For example Grimmer was a fave in League 2 last year look where he is now....what's to say McNulty wouldn't be the same scenario as Grimmer in league one?

pusbccfc · Nov 17, 2018

Chaplin will not get double figures.

Grendel · Nov 17, 2018

Otis said:
He has, but so did McNulty early doors last season.

Fact is and it's something we all accept, Chaplin isn't in the box in key areas enough.

What glaring chances did mcnulty miss?

fellatio_Martinez · Nov 17, 2018

Portsmouth are keen to offload him which would indicate he's not particularly great.

pusbccfc · Nov 17, 2018

Grendel said:
What glaring chances did mcnulty miss?

In all fairness. A lot.

The header from 2 yards out at Chesterfield is in my top 3 misses from Coventry players ever. He missed two other sitters that day alone.

no_loyalty · Nov 17, 2018

He seems to be getting worse game by game, can't remember him having a shot today. I hope he gets a goal soon, it might give him that spark to start scoring regularly.

Otis · Nov 17, 2018

pusbccfc said:
In all fairness. A lot.

The header from 2 yards out at Chesterfield is in my top 3 misses from Coventry players ever. He missed two other sitters that day alone.

Yep. He missed quite a few.

Mucca Mad Boys · Nov 17, 2018

pusbccfc said:
Chaplin will not get double figures.

He’s projected to hit double figures at his current rate.

pusbccfc · Nov 17, 2018

Mucca Mad Boys said:
He’s projected to hit double figures at his current rate.

He's slowed down though.

Mucca Mad Boys · Nov 17, 2018

pusbccfc said:
He's slowed down though.

Not really. There were 4 games between his 1st and 2nd goals, and then 1 game between his 3rd goal. There have been 3 (4 if you want to include his 13m v Walsall) games since his last goal. To say he's 'slowing down' after a 3 game drought is ridiculous. If you break down his appearances into blocks of four, today's game was the first of a new block - so needs to score once in the next 3 games to keep up his current ratio. 1 in 4 is a solid return for a striker.

higgs · Nov 17, 2018

I think sparky would score goals in this division

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Grendel · Nov 17, 2018

Otis said:
Yep. He missed quite a few.

Can you name any without some help?

Grendel · Nov 17, 2018

Mucca Mad Boys said:
Not really. There were 4 games between his 1st and 2nd goals, and then 1 game between his 3rd goal. There have been 3 (4 if you want to include his 13m v Walsall) games since his last goal. To say he's 'slowing down' after a 3 game drought is ridiculous. If you break down his appearances into blocks of four, today's game was the first of a new block - so needs to score once in the next 3 games to keep up his current ratio. 1 in 4 is a solid return for a striker.

Fair enough but the fact is he’s cost more than most forwards in the division this season.

In fact if you believe the figures quoted close to £1 million has been spent on 3 forwards - none of whom I’d bet my mortgage on scoring double figures this season

larry_david · Nov 17, 2018

That header against Chesterfield, he also missed a one on one late in that game, put it wide. Cost me 300 that day. Seem to remember him missing a header from a yard out against Yeovil at home. Although I do love mcnulty and would have him back asap

cc84cov · Nov 17, 2018

People need to remember what we were told by Pompey fans play him upfront with Target man they didn’t say isolate him in front of the midfield.Robins is playing him too deep it’s not his game playing him deep I suspect to help out with Doyle’s ageing legs same reason we restrict Baylis from getting beyond the strikers too.

Grendel · Nov 17, 2018

cc84cov said:
People need to remember what we were told by Pompey fans play him upfront with Target man they didn’t say isolate him in front of the midfield.Robins is playing him too deep it’s not his game playing him deep I suspect to help out with Doyle’s ageing legs same reason we restrict Baylis from getting beyond the strikers too.

He’s had some clear cut chances and fluffed them

The question I guess is if he was on loan until the end of December and there was a choice of spending half a million would you.

The jury to me is out and comments about “him coming good” are purely based on the fact a striker with far more proven experience did do last season

cc84cov · Nov 17, 2018

Grendel said:
He’s had some clear cut chances and fluffed them

The question I guess is if he was on loan until the end of December and there was a choice of spending half a million would you.

The jury to me is out and comments about “him coming good” are purely based on the fact a striker with far more proven experience did do last season

Good question but have we got a choice or is it set in stone we have to sign him ? It’s still early ish days and I don’t feel he’s being played in his correct position with the right strike partner to get thr best from him.

Gazolba · Nov 17, 2018

Grendel said:
He has missed glaring chances

So have Rashford, Sterling and Kane.
If he never missed a chance, he wouldn't be playing in League 1.

fellatio_Martinez · Nov 17, 2018

Gazolba said:
So have Rashford, Sterling and Kane.
If he never missed a chance, he wouldn't be playing in League 1.

That's an absolutely ridiculous comparison to make.

Stop trying so hard.

Skybluefaz · Nov 18, 2018

Gazolba said:
So have Rashford, Sterling and Kane.
If he never missed a chance, he wouldn't be playing in League 1.

I've missed sitters at powerleague and that's also totally fucking irrelevant.

Mucca Mad Boys · Nov 18, 2018

Grendel said:
Fair enough but the fact is he’s cost more than most forwards in the division this season.

In fact if you believe the figures quoted close to £1 million has been spent on 3 forwards - none of whom I’d bet my mortgage on scoring double figures this season

Hiwula, JCH and Chaplin are all projected to hit double figures. Chaplin hasn’t really set the world alight yet but it’s a case of being patient, like with McNulty. Hiwula, Chaplin and Bakayoko are all young men with a lot developing left to do so their prices are probably a bit inflated because we’re paying for potential. Hiwula scored 12 last season in all competitions so it’s reasonable that he’ll score about 10 league goals he scored 8 in 43 apps (21 starts, 22 off the bench).

It’s clear that Robins has a lot of faith in Chaplin, like he did with McNulty, so I’m trusting the process and reserving judgement for now.

Last season, I remember making a projection that McNulty would score roughly 17 goals (based off his loan spell at Pompey) at the time of a lot of people criticising him. That projection seemed a bit high at the time, yet he went on to smash that one out of the park. Projections have their merits and of course aren’t always accurate.

In frustrating 1-0 loses fans naturally look to the strikers and expect them to score. But even the best strikers in a league will struggle to better a ratio of 1 in 2. If anyone did the simple maths, strikers won’t score in half of their games. Bearing in mind most forwards have games where they score 2+ in a game, the actual amount of fixtures they score in is probably about 1 in 3 games — that’s roughly McNulty’s ratio and his goalscoring in 2018 was only surpassed by Kane and Salah. That’s also why we struggled when he didn’t score.

Just to put things into context.

One last point, we’ve neglected just how important set pieces were in our latest run, we scored off a set play in the Southend, Doncaster and 2 in the Bradford game. 2 games decided by the one goal. How did we concede today? Off a set play.

Hobo · Nov 18, 2018

Part of Chaplin's problem is the City fans who always over hype a signing then get disillusioned with them really quickly.

He is a young player with potential who wasn't getting games at Portsmouth. He is learning his trade and playing week in week out is part of that, rather than an impact player off the bench.

Signing Chaplin wasn't a guarantee for us to make the play offs.

Nick · Nov 18, 2018

It looks as if he is going backwards rather than learning, have a feeling that's tactical rather than him.

When he first signed he was on the last man's shoulder and constantly looking to be put through on goal.

Grendel · Nov 18, 2018

Hobo said:
Part of Chaplin's problem is the City fans who always over hype a signing then get disillusioned with them really quickly.

He is a young player with potential who wasn't getting games at Portsmouth. He is learning his trade and playing week in week out is part of that, rather than an impact player off the bench.

Signing Chaplin wasn't a guarantee for us to make the play offs.

I don’t think many supporters will get disillusioned at all. Most are positive

cc84cov · Nov 18, 2018

Nick said:
It looks as if he is going backwards rather than learning, have a feeling that's tactical rather than him.

When he first signed he was on the last man's shoulder and constantly looking to be put through on goal.

Spot on nick

Otis · Nov 18, 2018

Agree.

Can only think Robins is giving him licence to do what he's doing at the moment, being the busy little bee all over the place.

pusbccfc · Nov 18, 2018

Nick said:
It looks as if he is going backwards rather than learning, have a feeling that's tactical rather than him.

When he first signed he was on the last man's shoulder and constantly looking to be put through on goal.

This. Robins is going back to playing negative football.

When he let the forwards run free like the latter stages of last season, players like Sparky and Biamou played the best football of their careers.

Warwickhunt · Nov 18, 2018

Robins worries to much about the opposition rather than setting our team up to win if you ask me.

Otis · Nov 18, 2018

Warwickhunt said:
Robins worries to much about the opposition rather than setting our team up to win if you ask me.

I do think there is something in there. We should concentrate on our own strengths rather than trying to defend simply in order to stop the opposition.

We clearly do have some pacy attacking threat in Thomas and Bayliss and Chaplin and Hiwula.

Sky Blue Harry H · Nov 18, 2018

Otis said:
I do think there is something in there. We should concentrate on our own strengths rather than trying to defend simply in order to stop the opposition.

We clearly do have some pacy attacking threat in Thomas and Bayliss and Chaplin and Hiwula.

Although I get this argument, MR will probably think that Burton were a decent team, and with our proper side we have won 5 of the previous 6 league games and drawn against Accy. Because of this, I doubt he will change his mindset. A worry for me is that if Jones doesn't recapture his old form, we will become increasingly reliant on Derby letting us keep Thomas in January, for our attacking threat. I also have a sneaking desire to have Thomas playing in the centre of the park, as his energy and ability may help influence the game even more.

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