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Club Statement regarding EFL vote and stadium situation (1 Viewer)

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  • Start date May 26, 2019
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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  • May 27, 2019
  • #176
bawtryneal said:
Players contracts typically run 1st July to 30th June
The fixture list will be the biggest issue due to policing requirements and ensuring we are at St Andrews when Birmingham are away and clashes with Villa
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I doubt it will be a problem, They have multiple midlands sides playing at the same time all the time
 

bawtryneal

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  • May 27, 2019
  • #177
HuckerbyDublinWhelan said:
I doubt it will be a problem, They have multiple midlands sides playing at the same time all the time
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Bit difficult for us to be playing at the same time as Birmingham.
 
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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  • May 27, 2019
  • #178
bawtryneal said:
Bit difficult for us to be playing at the same time as Birmingham.
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Not really we’d play at the same time as villa , for all the banter and goading, they really don’t give a shit about us.

The teams are paired with another - id Imagine we’d be paired with Birmingham and Villa would be paired with Walsall - us and Villa would be at home whilst Birmingham and Walsall are away
 

bawtryneal

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  • May 27, 2019
  • #179
HuckerbyDublinWhelan said:
Not really we’d play at the same time as villa , for all the banter and goading, they really don’t give a shit about us.

The teams are paired with another - id Imagine we’d be paired with Birmingham and Villa would be paired with Walsall - us and Villa would be at home whilst Birmingham and Walsall are away
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That's my point and why they will need to have our decision very soon. Otherwise they will "split" Blues and Villa.
Will be even more critical if Villa get promoted with full houses every week and thousands of away fans.
 

RegTheDonk

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  • May 27, 2019
  • #180
bawtryneal said:
That's my point and why they will need to have our decision very soon. Otherwise they will "split" Blues and Villa.
Will be even more critical if Villa get promoted with full houses every week and thousands of away fans.
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Away fans at Villa games could get trains from Whitton, but I wouldn't think they would relish opposing fans going into Brum and new street after a game either ... might be a requirement of groundshare for us to play Sundays?
 

Nick

Administrator
  • May 27, 2019
  • #181
bawtryneal said:
Players contracts typically run 1st July to 30th June
The fixture list will be the biggest issue due to policing requirements and ensuring we are at St Andrews when Birmingham are away and clashes with Villa
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Ah it's 1st July then when the action usually starts. Knew it was one of them.

I am sure the EFL know where it is and will be pencilling things already. Villa are 2-0 up now so a lot of their games might be moved about if they end up in the Prem anyway.
 

Paxman II

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  • May 27, 2019
  • #182
Nick said:
Yeah it might well be, that doesn't necessarily mean amazing for ccfc though does it?
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No not amazing for CCFC but on the face of it should the Ricoh become publicly available again then I don't see many tenants able to fill or make use of such a venue if WASP bowed out...do you?
the obvious choice is the football club which the stadium was originally built for. Can't see a council given such circumstances not doing their level best to make some amends and not get into any more troublesome territory. So yes the beneficiary of all that could well be CCFC.

As a footnote to that. All f this is a long way off, perhaps several years and we may even see WASP leaving the Ricoh for other reasons before then. Their prospects are not exactly healthy.
They could improve that immediately by doing a deal with CCFC.
 
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rondog1973

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  • May 27, 2019
  • #183
Nick said:
The thing with that is how you only put over one side, for example you are pushing the "Jon Sharp never wanted to work with SISU" stuff but why did he put in a proposal for a ground share and then seem to change his mind after that reaction?

Of course SISU are wankers but you fail to notice that there are still too many other parties who can make life difficult and try their best to do that. You even make a point of ACL being distressed but you don't mention about other parties trying to distress CCFC.

You mention about SISU dividing fans but you don't mention expensive PR campaigns run by other parties to do exactly that, either?

Once people take a step back and have a look at everything even pre SISU, it isn't to make SISU look good or say they are innocent (far from it). It's that there are plenty of factors in the mess we are in, it's usually the most vocal who don't seem to realise when they are banging on about protests on the pitch though. The same as that SISU are having to put money in every year as well to keep us ticking over. (not throwing millions for success, just ticking over).

It's funny because you have the Wasps bloke encouraging protests as well.
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Yeah but, what about etc etc..
 

Sky Blue Harry H

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  • May 27, 2019
  • #184
Villa now promoted - only about 1/3 of their home games will be on a Saturday at 3 pm (Sky !) so don't think there will be as many clashing games as people think.
 
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letsallsingtogether

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  • May 27, 2019
  • #185
bawtryneal said:
Players contracts typically run 1st July to 30th June
The fixture list will be the biggest issue due to policing requirements and ensuring we are at St Andrews when Birmingham are away and clashes with Villa
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That's another point some posters were going mental when we had to play on a Sunday or Monday due to wasps, what if we have to do that most weeks at Brum?
 

win9nut

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  • May 27, 2019
  • #186
usskyblue said:
The same SISU OUT focused suspects, probably alternating between here and the Facebook page they conquered, peddling their agenda...

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I really hope no animals were injured or harmed when making that gif...
 
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SkyblueBazza

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  • May 27, 2019
  • #187
Call me old-fashioned but the EFL have not made any statment to the same effect as CCFC about the 29th meeting being cancelled.

Is this our man Fisher or a.n.other at the club jumping the gun? It does seem in farness a natural progression - but there is nothing I have seen on the EFL site or anywhere else backing up this 'cancelled' thing. IF the EFL look at & decide they are not satisfied with the arrangements - my guess is they could say precisely that & still go ahead with the meeting..!?

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COVKIDSNEVERQUIT

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  • May 27, 2019
  • #188
Nick said:
They could choose the administrator because that's how business law works. It would need to be business law that needs to change so it isn't allowed.

Let's hope this Haskell Pt2 works then?
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The law is an ass , should start a petition to get the law changed.
 

chiefdave

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  • May 27, 2019
  • #189
letsallsingtogether said:
That's another point some posters were going mental when we had to play on a Sunday or Monday due to wasps, what if we have to do that most weeks at Brum?
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Can only speak personally but the thing that annoyed me most about our games being moved to Friday, Sunday or Monday by Wasps is it wasn't necessary, was just them throwing their weight around.

Our games were getting moved for all sorts of events, how often was that needed before they showed up?
 

COVKIDSNEVERQUIT

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  • May 27, 2019
  • #190
Grendel said:
Christ
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You do a lot of name calling.

So here's one for you , "Grendel is a Bozo "

 
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Garryb80

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  • May 27, 2019
  • #191
SkyblueBazza said:
Call me old-fashioned but the EFL have not made any statment to the same effect as CCFC about the 29th meeting being cancelled.

Is this our man Fisher or a.n.other at the club jumping the gun? It does seem in farness a natural progression - but there is nothing I have seen on the EFL site or anywhere else backing up this 'cancelled' thing. IF the EFL look at & decide they are not satisfied with the arrangements - my guess is they could say precisely that & still go ahead with the meeting..!?

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The efl chairman said it was cancelled when interviewed before the play off final yesterday
 

dutchman

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  • May 28, 2019
  • #192
OffenhamSkyBlue said:
Where's the evidence for that?
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It's what they've been doing ever since they first took over which is why the club is in massive debt with no assets and nobody in their right mind wants to buy it.
 
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SkyblueBazza

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  • May 28, 2019
  • #193
Garryb80 said:
The efl chairman said it was cancelled when interviewed before the play off final yesterday
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Ah well I didn't know that & still have seen nothing in the media beyond CCFC statement & your response. Thanks for the update

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Nick

Administrator
  • May 28, 2019
  • #194

So it was CCFC who were right.

Interesting how it's Wasps walking away then coming back, same as it was last time.

I will await the 4 page essays about how it is all SISU and Wasps are going to help us out. Wasps have been relying on a lack of groundshare or EFL not allowing it to pressure CCFC.
 
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Mr Panda

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  • May 28, 2019
  • #195
Please let this be it now. Please let there be no more curveballs. I want my initial optimism for 2019/20 back.
 
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vow

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  • May 28, 2019
  • #196
Nick said:

So it was CCFC who were right.

Interesting how it's Wasps walking away then coming back, same as it was last time.

I will await the 4 page essays about how it is all SISU and Wasps are going to help us out. Wasps have been relying on a lack of groundshare or EFL not allowing it to pressure CCFC.
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Probably more bullshit just in case negotiations fall through and can then blame the Club/SISU, perhaps!?
 

Nick

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  • May 28, 2019
  • #197
Mr Panda said:
Please let this be it now. Please let there be no more curveballs. I want my initial optimism for 2019/20 back.
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Probably should expect more.

CCFC had said they were in talks and wanted to stay, Wasps last update was that they won't talk.

I wouldn't be surprised if there's another thing coming to try and give Wasps a "reason" not to talk and blame CCFC / SISU for it.
 

SkyBlueDom26

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  • May 28, 2019
  • #198
Nick said:
Probably should expect more.

CCFC had said they were in talks and wanted to stay, Wasps last update was that they won't talk.

I wouldn't be surprised if there's another thing coming to try and give Wasps a "reason" not to talk and blame CCFC / SISU for it.
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Ya think wasps could afford to say there back in talks for the 3rd time and the 'pull out' again! They have already shot themselves in the foot
 

Nick

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  • May 28, 2019
  • #199
SkyBlueDom26 said:
Ya think wasps could afford to say there back in talks for the 3rd time and the 'pull out' again! They have already shot themselves in the foot
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Have a look about, they can do what they want and just say "SISU did it". Over and over again.

They then just roll out the Trust / BBC / Telegraph to drive it home as well.
 
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SkyBlueCRJ

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  • May 28, 2019
  • #200
Unless Wasps do a complete 180 on their initial demands, I don't think this changes much in my eyes. As I've reiterated I really don't think they have any interest in allowing the club to remain at the Ricoh. Not whilst under the ownership of SISU anyway. How Gilbert has worded his Tweet screams PR MOVE to me.
 

SkyBlueDom26

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  • May 28, 2019
  • #201
Nick said:
Have a look about, they can do what they want and just say "SISU did it". Over and over again.

They then just roll out the Trust / BBC / Telegraph to drive it home as well.
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Yeah gilbert and his mates will be gutted if we stay at the ricoh, can't put out more BS and make us look like the bad guys when in reality Wasps/the council have took the piss
 
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OffenhamSkyBlue

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  • May 28, 2019
  • #202
Well hopefully they can start from where they left off when the EC complaint was revealed (presumably the Council told Eastwood that they had had a request for information from the EC as part of their preliminary investigation) - which, we were led to believe, was close to agreement.
Now they know CCFC have an agreement to play elsewhere, they will hopefully be SHITTING THEMSELVES that they are about to lose out on rent, etc, and it will push them to the brink of financial viability.
 

Johnnythespider

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  • May 28, 2019
  • #203
Let's hope the pissing about stops now and they sign the 2 year deal that was agreed, I'm not holding my breath though
 
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SkyBlueDom26

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  • May 28, 2019
  • #204
Funny seeing wasps so desperate to have us at the ricoh though! Could sisu have said they will cover costs in regards to the complaint?
 

Nick

Administrator
  • May 28, 2019
  • #205
SkyBlueDom26 said:
Yeah gilbert and his mates will be gutted if we stay at the ricoh, can't put out more BS and make us look like the bad guys when in reality Wasps/the council have took the piss
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They can and will.
 
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Johnnythespider

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  • May 28, 2019
  • #206
SkyBlueDom26 said:
Funny seeing wasps so desperate to have us at the ricoh though! Could sisu have said they will cover costs in regards to the complaint?
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Only if they're absolutely certain there won't be any costs
 

SKYBLUES90

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  • May 28, 2019
  • #207
Got to say this notification on twitter made me laugh this morning
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • May 28, 2019
  • #208
SkyBlueDom26 said:
Funny seeing wasps so desperate to have us at the ricoh though! Could sisu have said they will cover costs in regards to the complaint?
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There isn't any evidence of desperation from Wasps and even the richest man in the world would never indemnify somebody against losses due to the action of a 3rd party.
 
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OffenhamSkyBlue

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  • May 28, 2019
  • #209
SkyBlueDom26 said:
Funny seeing wasps so desperate to have us at the ricoh though! Could sisu have said they will cover costs in regards to the complaint?
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You must be joking - and nor SHOULD they! It's a blank Czech (sorry GR, cheque) - it would be cheaper to buy half the Ricoh!
 
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SkyBlueDom26

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  • May 28, 2019
  • #210
SKYBLUES90 said:
View attachment 12244 Got to say this notification on twitter made me laugh this morning
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Haha the club actually unfollowed the ricoh :smuggrin:
 
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