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Evo1883

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  • Sep 25, 2021
  • #386
Ccfcisparks said:
Barnsley look terrible
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Nah can't be true , been assured they are better pressers than anybody in world football
 
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Evo1883

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 25, 2021
  • #387
Bristol city showing us a way next week , love that
 
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Sky Blue Harry H

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  • Sep 25, 2021
  • #388
Evo1883 said:
Bristol city showing us a way next week , love that
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Yep - 15 home games without a win !!
 

Tea & Busquets

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  • Sep 25, 2021
  • #389
SlowerThanPlatt said:
Blackburn started the season well, Brereton stepping up
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Brereton Diaz
 

covcity4life

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 25, 2021
  • #390
Cov and Mowbrary double promotion still on
 

cowboy1850

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 26, 2021
  • #391
Barnsley are what could happen to us: have a good season but fail to get promoted and loose the manager and some players. That's one of the downsides to having a good season.
 
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SkyblueTexan

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  • Sep 26, 2021
  • #392

Comment: Coventry City's modern day miracle and the messiah behind it News: The72 - Football League News

Modern football has taken some twists and turns. Heroes and villains are born over night but few stories eclipse that of the re-birth of Coventry City, and their modern day messiah - Mark Robins.
the72.co.uk

Love the article and I've seen many like this over the last few weeks. Hard to stay under the radar for much longer. Hope the team stays humble, hungry and most importantly, together.
 
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Bugsy

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  • Sep 26, 2021
  • #393
SkyblueTexan said:

Comment: Coventry City's modern day miracle and the messiah behind it News: The72 - Football League News

Modern football has taken some twists and turns. Heroes and villains are born over night but few stories eclipse that of the re-birth of Coventry City, and their modern day messiah - Mark Robins.
the72.co.uk

Love the article and I've seen many like this over the last few weeks. Hard to stay under the radar for much longer. Hope the team stays humble, hungry and most importantly, together.
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That's one of the best write-ups I've read so far and for me the comment below makes me so proud to be a Coventry city supporter.......PUSB

"Coventry City have so many things that football clubs crave and money can’t buy, and it’s making for truly unbelievable viewing".
 
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procdoc

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 26, 2021
  • #394
My favourite part:

The modern rebirth of Coventry City is a long and arduous story yet it spans only as long as Robins’ four-and-a-half year tenure at the club. What he’s achieved in such a short space of time and against such highly-stacked odds is without doubt a folklore tale of English football and the main character in it is rightfully gaining more and more plaudits by the day. Robins is a messiah among the people of Coventry not only for what he’s done for the football club itself, but for what the team’s success has done for the city too and what’s more is that he’s being hailed among some of the best tactical managers in the entire country.
 
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SlowerThanPlatt

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 26, 2021
  • #395
cowboy1850 said:
Barnsley are what could happen to us: have a good season but fail to get promoted and loose the manager and some players. That's one of the downsides to having a good season.
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True but that’s the nature of football. Would seem we have some decent structures in place if that does happen
 
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Frostie

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  • Sep 26, 2021
  • #396
Love this

 
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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  • Sep 26, 2021
  • #397
As someone who’s faith waned in Robins last season, it is truly remarkable what he’s doing. It’s nice to see that the football world is now taking notice of us. Although thinking about it…maybe not that great… Robins is ours
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 26, 2021
  • #398
Frostie said:
Love this

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preferred their next tweet…

 
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Frostie

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 26, 2021
  • #399
shmmeee said:
preferred their next tweet…

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Yep, after they predicted us to finish 22nd
 
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Ian1779

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 27, 2021
  • #400
A short thread for amusement

 
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Bugsy

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  • Sep 28, 2021
  • #401



....PUSB
 
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Hutch11

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 28, 2021
  • #402
Bugsy said:
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....PUSB
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Shit that we've only got 1 on that list , sack the board !!
 
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Happy_Martian

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 28, 2021
  • #403
Ian1779 said:
A short thread for amusement

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Didn't some jokers on here do this to the Cov squad a couple of years ago ? IIRC Ms. Godden and Ms. Shipperz would have scored with some of this forums members (??!! ) But Mdm. Adi Viveash didn't come out of the experiment strongly

<<edit>> Found the thread....

Miss Cov 2020

Someone had to... Marissa Robins Sadie Viveash Marcia Marosi Kylie McFadzean Michelle Rose Dominique Hyam Fran-Katie Dabo Samantha McCallum Leah Kelly Jordan Shipley (formally Katie)
www.skybluestalk.co.uk
 
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Sbarcher

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 28, 2021
  • #404
Scheduled to finish 6th on 71pts. Only a 1% chance of relegation.

ABC News – Breaking News, Latest News and Videos

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Frostie

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  • Sep 28, 2021
  • #405
Bugsy said:
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....PUSB
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Whilst it's pleasing to see Moore saving plenty it's just about the most pointless stat there is, takes no consideration of the amount of shots or their difficulty.

For example, to achieve 81.5% he could have just saved 5 out of 6 shots that trickled at 2mph from 30 yards out.
(He's actually saved 21 out of 27 shots on target but you get my point)

Much better is this (which he's also doing brilliantly at):

 
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Sep 28, 2021
  • #406
Happy_Martian said:
Didn't some jokers on here do this to the Cov squad a couple of years ago ? IIRC Ms. Godden and Ms. Shipperz would have scored with some of this forums members (??!! ) But Mdm. Adi Viveash didn't come out of the experiment strongly

<<edit>> Found the thread....

Miss Cov 2020

Someone had to... Marissa Robins Sadie Viveash Marcia Marosi Kylie McFadzean Michelle Rose Dominique Hyam Fran-Katie Dabo Samantha McCallum Leah Kelly Jordan Shipley (formally Katie)
www.skybluestalk.co.uk
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That was one of the surrealist threads on here ever and that’s saying something.
 
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slowpoke

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 28, 2021
  • #407
cowboy1850 said:
Barnsley are what could happen to us: have a good season but fail to get promoted and loose the manager and some players. That's one of the downsides to having a good season.
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Then it is down to our owner to get Robins and Viveash on top contracts asap
 
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SlowerThanPlatt

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 28, 2021
  • #408
slowpoke said:
Then it is down to our owner to get Robins and Viveash on top contracts asap
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The Barnsley manager was, WBA paid sizeable compensation for him.
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 28, 2021
  • #409
Frostie said:
Whilst it's pleasing to see Moore saving plenty it's just about the most pointless stat there is, takes no consideration of the amount of shots or their difficulty.

For example, to achieve 81.5% he could have just saved 5 out of 6 shots that trickled at 2mph from 30 yards out.
(He's actually saved 21 out of 27 shots on target but you get my point)

What you actually want is this (which he's also doing brilliantly at):

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Told you he was crap!!

(jokes)
 
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Happy_Martian

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 28, 2021
  • #410
Frostie said:
Whilst it's pleasing to see Moore saving plenty it's just about the most pointless stat there is, takes no consideration of the amount of shots or their difficulty.

For example, to achieve 81.5% he could have just saved 5 out of 6 shots that trickled at 2mph from 30 yards out.
(He's actually saved 21 out of 27 shots on target but you get my point)

What you actually want is this (which he's also doing brilliantly at):

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Some of those stats seem contradictory. Moore is placed highly in the Goals Prevented stat, together with Blackburn and 'Uddersfields keepers. All teams in the top 8. But in the same analysis, you have the Hull, Derby and Barnsley keepers who's teams are all in the bottom 6.
 

Evo1883

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 28, 2021
  • #411
Frostie said:
Love this

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Wow , love it it when people are brutally honest
 

Frostie

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 28, 2021
  • #412
Happy_Martian said:
Some of those stats seem contradictory. Moore is placed highly in the Goals Prevented stat, together with Blackburn and 'Uddersfields keepers. All teams in the top 8. But in the same analysis, you have the Hull, Derby and Barnsley keepers who's teams are all in the bottom 6.
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That's right, but why's that contradictory?
If you look at the Expected Goals Against (xGA), Derby & Barnsley would have been expected to concede more than they actually have (less so Hull now, that's swung a little since the data was gathered for this).

It is a little crude & there are better methods (Post Shot xG or PSxG) but it is a decent enough barometer over an extended period of time & a far better indicator than simply Clean Sheets or Save %.
 
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Evo1883

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 28, 2021
  • #413
Sbarcher said:
Scheduled to finish 6th on 71pts. Only a 1% chance of relegation.

ABC News – Breaking News, Latest News and Videos

ABC News is your trusted source on political news stories and videos. Get the latest coverage and analysis on everything from the Trump presidency, Senate, House and Supreme Court.
projects.fivethirtyeight.com
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Is this based aswell on matches remaining IE who we have left to play ?
 

Liquid Gold

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 28, 2021
  • #414
I don't like that FiveThirtyEight one, it just feels wildly inaccurate as it changes drastically every week.

Last season it had us likely to go down then likely to stay up week to week. As a long range forecast the figures shouldn't change too much week on week.
 

slowpoke

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 28, 2021
  • #415
SlowerThanPlatt said:
The Barnsley manager was, WBA paid sizeable compensation for him.
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Waste of money then.
 
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shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 28, 2021
  • #416
Frostie said:
That's right, but why's that contradictory?
If you look at the Expected Goals Against (xGA), Derby & Barnsley would have been expected to concede more than they actually have (less so Hull now, that's swung a little since the data was gathered for this).

It is a little crude & there are better methods (Post Shot xG or PSxG) but it is a decent enough barometer over an extended period of time & a far better indicator than simply Clean Sheets or Save %.
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Serious question. Moore’s triple save, would that have got triple xGA/whatever or would the fact it happened in quick succession have modified the stat at all? Obviously he could only have conceded one of the three shots.
 

Frostie

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  • Sep 28, 2021
  • #417
shmmeee said:
Serious question. Moore’s triple save, would that have got triple xGA/whatever or would the fact it happened in quick succession have modified the stat at all? Obviously he could only have conceded one of the three shots.
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No, for exactly the reason you suspect, as the second & third shots come about as an outcome of the first.

In this scenario you instead calculate the chance that a goal wouldn't be scored.

Let's say as an example (I'm making these xG numbers up) the first shot (Ikpeazu?) has an xG of 0.15 then the first rebound is a really tight angle so let's say 0.10 then the 3rd is a really good look at goal (although Moore is positioned well) say 0.50.
Then we'd multiply the chance of each i.e. (1.0 - 0.15) x (1.0 - 0.10) x (1.0 - 0.50)
0.85 x 0.90 x 0.50 = 0.3825 i.e. only a 38% chance that 'Boro don't score from that sequence.

Middlesbrough's xG would then be 0.6175 or, in layman's terms, we'd expect a goal to be scored from that scenario approx 62% of the time.

Make sense?
 
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PUSB-We_are_going_up

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  • Sep 28, 2021
  • #418
Frostie said:
No, for exactly the reason you suspect, as the second & third shots come about as an outcome of the first.

In this scenario you instead calculate the chance that a goal wouldn't be scored.

Let's say as an example (I'm making these xG numbers up) the first shot (Ikpeazu?) has an xG of 0.15 then the first rebound is a really tight angle so let's say 0.10 then the 3rd is a really good look at goal (although Moore is positioned well) say 0.50.
Then we'd multiply the chance of each i.e. (1.0 - 0.15) x (1.0 - 0.10) x (1.0 - 0.50)
0.85 x 0.90 x 0.50 = 0.3825 i.e. only a 38% chance that 'Boro don't score from that sequence.

Middlesbrough's xG would then be 0.6175 or, in layman's terms, we'd expect a goal to be scored from that scenario approx 62% of the time.

Make sense?
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Wow
 

Evo1883

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 28, 2021
  • #419
Frostie said:
No, for exactly the reason you suspect, as the second & third shots come about as an outcome of the first.

In this scenario you instead calculate the chance that a goal wouldn't be scored.

Let's say as an example (I'm making these xG numbers up) the first shot (Ikpeazu?) has an xG of 0.15 then the first rebound is a really tight angle so let's say 0.10 then the 3rd is a really good look at goal (although Moore is positioned well) say 0.50.
Then we'd multiply the chance of each i.e. (1.0 - 0.15) x (1.0 - 0.10) x (1.0 - 0.50)
0.85 x 0.90 x 0.50 = 0.3825 i.e. only a 38% chance that 'Boro don't score from that sequence.

Middlesbrough's xG would then be 0.6175 or, in layman's terms, we'd expect a goal to be scored from that scenario approx 62% of the time.

Make sense?
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shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 28, 2021
  • #420
Frostie said:
No, for exactly the reason you suspect, as the second & third shots come about as an outcome of the first.

In this scenario you instead calculate the chance that a goal wouldn't be scored.

Let's say as an example (I'm making these xG numbers up) the first shot (Ikpeazu?) has an xG of 0.15 then the first rebound is a really tight angle so let's say 0.10 then the 3rd is a really good look at goal (although Moore is positioned well) say 0.50.
Then we'd multiply the chance of each i.e. (1.0 - 0.15) x (1.0 - 0.10) x (1.0 - 0.50)
0.85 x 0.90 x 0.50 = 0.3825 i.e. only a 38% chance that 'Boro don't score from that sequence.

Middlesbrough's xG would then be 0.6175 or, in layman's terms, we'd expect a goal to be scored from that scenario approx 62% of the time.

Make sense?
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Perfect sense. Thanks.
 
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