shmmeee
Well-Known Member
Both party’s talent pipelines have been gutted. Tories can make more with less hassle in finance or similar, lefties are all activists or wonks these days instead of leaders thanks to the demise of unions.
Labours ineptitude doesn't alter the fact that this government is fucking awful.
It just means the opposition are as well. Lucky us.
Could have sworn that when some of us said this regarding the tory press we were told it was bollocks!!
Log off, you're embarrassing yourself.
As I've just said , and a point backed up by the head of AA , that driver shortages in this sector are localised 1 large company was having staffing issues but isn't enough to cause this mess ..and the reason we are running out at the pumps is PURELY panic buying .. no other reason at this point
Ah
If it was just fuel you would have a point, but it's not, is it?
So why haven't the Bulldog Brits stepped up to the plate to drive the lorries, pick the fruit and look after people in care homes?
After all these forinnerrrrs came over here and nicked our fruit picking jobs.
Brexit was five years ago, surely Brits have been queuing up for these jobs?
Maybe, just maybe foreign labour was a good thing, eh?
Also in regards to immigration , why does it have to be such a battleground subject ?
There isn't a leading country in the world in or out the EU that doesn't use immigration to fill roles , we should allow people to live here and work to fill these roles
That doesn't mean that our government have to neglect its own people by failing to train millions of working age people up with trades needed and in demand .. this Labour shortage has been arguably brewing for decades whilst millions of British people left school with absolutely no worthwhile qualification
I know people on here love to protect the media , but their role in this is clear as day ..
People naturally follow the information that they're given , and that information comes mostly from mainstream and social media
Also in regards to immigration , why does it have to be such a battleground subject ?
There isn't a leading country in the world in or out the EU that doesn't use immigration to fill roles , we should allow people to live here and work to fill these roles
That doesn't mean that our government have to neglect its own people by failing to train millions of working age people up with trades needed and in demand .. this Labour shortage has been arguably brewing for decades whilst millions of British people left school with absolutely no worthwhile qualification
We've become a very unskilled nation
Sounds sensible. Yet it seems British workers are reluctant to do certain jobs like picking fruit. Can't have it both ways.
The whole Vote Leave campaign trumpeted by racists like Rees Mogg and Farage hinged on those Romanians and other undesirables coming over here and taking our jobs.
Turkey too joining the EU was another big lie.
Trouble is racists and the uneducated believed the bullshit and voted for their masters.
I always remember a woman from Wolverhampton on the news who said she was voting Brexit because "foreigners and their kids wanted to come over and make better lives for themselves". So?
Sounds sensible. Yet it seems British workers are reluctant to do certain jobs like picking fruit. Can't have it both ways.
The whole Vote Leave campaign trumpeted by racists like Rees Mogg and Farage hinged on those Romanians and other undesirables coming over here and taking our jobs.
Turkey too joining the EU was another big lie.
Trouble is racists and the uneducated believed the bullshit and voted for their masters.
I always remember a woman from Wolverhampton on the news who said she was voting Brexit because "foreigners and their kids wanted to come over and make better lives for themselves". So?
Fruit picking is shit wages and shit conditions. Why would anyone do it? We can attract people willing to do that because our currency is worth so much more not because we’re work shy and they aren’t. People the world over respond to the same pressures.
Ah yes, everyone who voted leave is uneducated or racist. Log off and stop embarrassing yourself, you bigot.
The Daily Mail is the worst for it.They did, they win twice by reporting this shit, the initial lies then the plebs panic buy, which creates another story for them to report. Was the same with the bog roll last year.
Fruit picking is shit wages and shit conditions. Why would anyone do it? We can attract people willing to do that because our currency is worth so much more not because we’re work shy and they aren’t. People the world over respond to the same pressures.
The Daily Mail is the worst for it.
Pretty much yeah. And a combination of the two.
I totally agree, but it seems Brexiteers were happy for foreigners to do it.
Very angry , this kind of mindset isn't healthy
Er you are and you don’t care about their living standards as they to you are underclass - just scum to coin a phrase from Vicky
He has lurched to the far right it’s incredible
He’s accusing Angela Raynor of being scum by calling her Vicky, a clear reference to the fictional character Vicky Pollard while also accusing you of labelling the “underclass” as “scum”. Although you suggested no such thing.WTF are you going on about?
Highly educated people run this country , there's an argument to be made that the educated are fucking wankers too, after all these are the very people (the educated ) that are moaned about day in day out on here that treat people like second class citizens to line their own pockets
Works both ways
The working class racist thicko argument really pisses me off
Some of the most caring and kind people on this earth have fuck all
He’s accusing Angela Raynor of being scum by calling her Vicky, a clear reference to the fictional character Vicky Pollard while also accusing you of labelling the “underclass” as “scum”. Although you suggested no such thing.
I think a lot of people who run the country aren't highly educated at all. They may have gone to the best schools in the land, but family connections got them there rather than intelligence.
Are Johnson, Raab, Truss, etc intelligent? I don't think so.
Not all racist thickos are working class. Farage and Johnson being fine examples.
Ha, what a twat you are.
I think a lot of people who run the country aren't highly educated at all. They may have gone to the best schools in the land, but family connections got them there rather than intelligence.
Are Johnson, Raab, Truss, etc intelligent? I don't think so.
Not all racist thickos are working class. Farage and Johnson being fine examples.
There’s a difference between being highly educated and going to expensive private schools. A lot of them are also incredibly rich and self-serving.Highly educated people run this country , there's an argument to be made that the educated are fucking wankers too, after all these are the very people (the educated ) that are moaned about day in day out on here that treat people like second class citizens to line their own pockets
Works both ways
The working class racist thicko argument really pisses me off
Some of the most caring and kind people on this earth have fuck all
There’s a difference between being highly educated and going to expensive private schools. A lot of them are also incredibly rich and self-serving.
The funniest thing about the people who accuse other of promoting something close to slave labour are also the ones who were critical of labours plans to hike the minimum wage at the last election as unsustainable, keep quiet about the removal of the £20 uplift to working families, keep quiet about the over 10% rise in NI that is going to disproportionately hit the lowest paid the most, the increase in food banks, the growth in the inequality gap between the rich and the poor over the last 10 years etc etc etc. Seems they don’t mind inequality so long as it’s not Johnny Foreigner on the receiving end.
There’s a difference between being highly educated and going to expensive private schools. A lot of them are also incredibly rich and self-serving.
Almost as much sense as saying that they’re clever because they’re Tories. Diane Abbot had an at least equal education to Patel, also doesn’t have a grasp for numbers like Patel but you’ve been gloating that she’s stupid for years. What makes Abbot thick and Patel not?Truss was through the comp system wasn’t she as was Patel? So despite both achieving higher ranks of office as females in a bigoted party they are thick as they are Tory
Yeah makes sense
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