torchomatic
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Ah, I see. So it's not Brexit, it's all the fault of the BBC. Silly me, should have known.
They did, they win twice by reporting this shit, the initial lies then the plebs panic buy, which creates another story for them to report. Was the same with the bog roll last year.
They did, they win twice by reporting this shit, the initial lies then the plebs panic buy, which creates another story for them to report. Was the same with the bog roll last year.
Even the Government admits there is a problem.They did, they win twice by reporting this shit, the initial lies then the plebs panic buy, which creates another story for them to report. Was the same with the bog roll last year.
They (amongst others) reported a warning directly from BP that they had closed some petrol stations due to driver shortages. That’s a matter of fact not opinion. Where’s the lie? Plebs? I only know 2 people personally who panicked brought petrol, both leavers. So maybe you are right on your second point.
It actually annoyed me that Sky and the BBC were reporting the death of Sabina Nessa, if they hadn't reported that then there wouldn't be any murders.
Woke bullshit, that's what it is.
The BBC struggles to even mention brexit and these issues in the same breath. We’re 100,000 HGV drivers short and we’re issuing visas for less than a tenth of that, if they come and the shortage is driving wages up. It’s also about more than petrol.It's all a big game, it's an engineered crisis, where everyone gets what they want, Big business gets cheap labour, Government has an excuse for easing visa restrictions, Media get their stories, and the only ones getting shafted are the workers yet again, don't play their games.
The BBC struggles to even mention brexit and these issues in the same breath. We’re 100,000 HGV drivers short and we’re issuing visas for less than a tenth of that, if they come and the shortage is driving wages up. It’s also about more than petrol.
So are you saying that there isn’t a labour shortage?You're obsessed with Brexit, It's happened, get over it, It doesn't matter if you voted leave or remain, if you get sucked into the media lies, you're an idiot.
So are you saying that there isn’t a labour shortage?
Gotcha. That must be why reversing elements of brexit are apparently the answer.Brexit has got nothing to do with Brexit mate!
Gotcha. That must be why reversing elements of brexit are apparently the answer.
So are you saying that there isn’t a labour shortage?
Of course you’re going to leave this. Just one point though. Who sets the minimum wage? Not the EU or immigrants. The British government. Foreign labour is only cheap because our sovereign government chooses to keep it that way.Yes there is, in specific areas, root cause is suppressed wages due to cheap foreign labour flooding the market. If companies paid the drivers what they're worth, there would be more willing to take up that work.
I'm going to leave this as I find you incredibly tedious to interact with, you even make @shmmeee seem interesting.
On the news there was a haulage company who employs drivers moaning about how drivers won't work because of low pay and treated badly.
While standing in front of loads of empty lorries.
Not really a good look for them
Of course you’re going to leave this. Just one point though. Who sets the minimum wage? Not the EU or immigrants. The British government. Foreign labour is only cheap because our sovereign government chooses to keep it that way.
Well most aren't, a small percentage were , very smallTruckers aren't minimum wage workers. But that's it, I'm done.
Truckers aren't minimum wage workers. But that's it, I'm done.
Of course you’re going to leave this. Just one point though. Who sets the minimum wage? Not the EU or immigrants. The British government. Foreign labour is only cheap because our sovereign government chooses to keep it that way.
That is actually such a cringey post and incredibly disrespectful.
This isn’t a debating thread it’s a thread for the Dead Labour Losers Club to vent their spleen. Vicki pollard and her moronic rant last night and Starmer and his waffling and sputtering this morning is all you need to know. In fact the lack of comment from the Dead Losers Club on the conference really says it all
Well, obviously I wasn't disrespecting her murder, but nice pearl clutching.
This country gets more Trumpian every day.
Anti vaxxers say Covid doesn't exist because they don't know anyone who has died. Brexiteers refuse to believe Brexit has damaged the country and led to these shortages because, like the Government, they cannot admit they made a mistake.
Much easier to blame the media and "panic buying".
Labours ineptitude doesn't alter the fact that this government is fucking awful.
It just means the opposition are as well. Lucky us.
Yes there is, in specific areas, root cause is suppressed wages due to cheap foreign labour flooding the market. If companies paid the drivers what they're worth, there would be more willing to take up that work.
I'm going to leave this as I find you incredibly tedious to interact with, you even make @shmmeee seem interesting.
But the media has played a huge roll in this , its not even something we can argue about .
The minute they tell people there's potential shortages of fuel (there wasn't on the whole and still isn't) people went out their way to fuel up and even some went further taking numerous cans to fill up too .. this has spiralled and its directly caused by information , information we get from where ? The media
The tankers are filling up and they are selling out in a couple hours
So the media shouldn't report it? They should keep quiet over things that make the government look bad?
If they hadn't then idiots would be accusing them of suppressing news.
So why haven't the Bulldog Brits stepped up to the plate to drive the lorries, pick the fruit and look after people in care homes?
After all these forinnerrrrs came over here and nicked our fruit picking jobs.
Brexit was five years ago, surely Brits have been queuing up for these jobs?
Maybe, just maybe foreign labour was a good thing, eh?
The media actually didn't need to report on this at the time no .. like i said , there is no fuel shortage and if people carried on as normal it would have been fine (this view backed up by almost everybody )..1 particular large company was having issues .
It's been created
Exactly the same happened with shit roll early pandemic
You cannot keep up with demand if the demand is suddenly much much higher than normal , in any job
Indeed, and also I'm sure I heard BP closed 20 out of around 1200 stations. Hardly a reason for panic.
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The media actually didn't need to report on this at the time no .. like i said , there is no fuel shortage and if people carried on as normal it would have been fine (this view backed up by almost everybody )..1 particular large company was having issues .
It's been created
Exactly the same happened with shit roll early pandemic
Great deflection from this ridiculously incompetent GovernmentThis isn’t a debating thread it’s a thread for the Dead Labour Losers Club to vent their spleen. Vicki pollard and her moronic rant last night and Starmer and his waffling and sputtering this morning is all you need to know. In fact the lack of comment from the Dead Losers Club on the conference really says it all
People naturally follow the information that they're given
As I've just said , and a point backed up by the head of AA , that driver shortages in this sector are localised 1 large company was having staffing issues but isn't enough to cause this mess ..and the reason we are running out at the pumps is PURELY panic buying .. no other reason at this pointNo, there isn't a shortage of fuel. There is a shortage of HGV drivers who deliver the fuel and our food. Now, why is there a shortage of delivery drivers?
Because people voted to chuck out the Romanians and other Eastern Europeans they didn't like driving our British lorries and picking our fruit.
Marty called it "cheap foreign labour". We are in a mess because we told this cheap foreign labour to fuck off as we don't need 'em.
Turns out we do. Laughable that the Government is asking them to come back and help us out, though only for three months as the Brits will be driving around eating Yorkies by Christmas.
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