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Gynnsthetonic

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  • Jan 25, 2022
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Not doing bad are they, are the fans still clammering to get rid of Mowbray and Venkys I doubt it Interesting to see what there budget it is compared to ours, the owners have gave him time and it looks like it's paying off, hopefully something we can emulate ourselves!
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Jan 25, 2022
  • #2
Gynnsthetonic said:
Not doing bad are they, are the fans still clammering to get rid of Mowbray and Venkys I doubt it Interesting to see what there budget it is compared to ours, the owners have gave him time and it looks like it's paying off, hopefully something we can emulate ourselves!
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They've got an excellent (Category 1) academy and he paid £8m for Brereton and £6m for Sam Gallagher. He's fortunate that the academy and Brereton are just now bearing fruit, I don't think it is part of his masterplan
 

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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  • Jan 25, 2022
  • #3
Him, Venus, and Waggot are (and these aren't my words) like the 3 horseman of the apocalypse. They seem to have a very high interest in selling the training ground for money. Sound familiar?

Some seriously dodgy shit going on with that entourage.
 
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edgy

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  • Jan 25, 2022
  • #4
fernandopartridge said:
They've got an excellent (Category 1) academy and he paid £8m for Brereton and £6m for Sam Gallagher. He's fortunate that the academy and Brereton are just now bearing fruit, I don't think it is part of his masterplan
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It's literally this.

We are a Brereton away from being a really decent side.
 
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Skybluemichael

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  • Jan 25, 2022
  • #5
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
Him, Venus, and Waggot are (and these aren't my words) like the 3 horseman of the apocalypse. They seem to have a very high interest in selling the training ground for money. Sound familiar?

Some seriously dodgy shit going on with that entourage.
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I don’t understand, it’s not theirs to sell and if it’s sold the club make the money how do those three benefit from it?
 

Bertola

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  • Jan 25, 2022
  • #6
If it's sold at a decent price, to a property development which they have interest in, then they'd benefit. I know that was the rumour around Ryton
 

Skybluemichael

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  • Jan 25, 2022
  • #7
Bertola said:
If it's sold at a decent price, to a property development which they have interest in, then they'd benefit. I know that was the rumour around Ryton
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But why would the do that? The owners pump in 6-8mil every 6 months they don’t need the what 4mil? for selling the training ground
 

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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  • Jan 25, 2022
  • #8
Skybluemichael said:
But why would the do that? The owners pump in 6-8mil every 6 months they don’t need the what 4mil? for selling the training ground
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Someone will know more than me on this, but I am pretty sure said development company was owned by Waggot´s wife or something.
 
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Frostie

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  • Jan 25, 2022
  • #9
Gynnsthetonic said:
Not doing bad are they, are the fans still clammering to get rid of Mowbray and Venkys I doubt it Interesting to see what there budget it is compared to ours, the owners have gave him time and it looks like it's paying off, hopefully something we can emulate ourselves!
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He's done a phenomenal job there imo. I know others don't agree.
They have a bottom 3rd wage bill & 2nd youngest squad in the league.
 
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Evo1883

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  • Jan 25, 2022
  • #10
He's been given time and it's paying off , they look a good side
 
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Skybluemichael

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  • Jan 25, 2022
  • #11
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
Someone will know more than me on this, but I am pretty sure said development company was owned by Waggot´s wife or something.
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Yeah someone from Blackburn came on hear and said the same thing about Venus wife, then someone pointed out that the company closed years ago and his wife had died
 

Skybluemichael

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  • Jan 25, 2022
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Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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  • Jan 25, 2022
  • #13
Skybluemichael said:
Yeah someone from Blackburn came on hear and said the same thing about Venus wife, then someone pointed out that the company closed years ago and his wife had died
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I´ll need to read into it more, but two attempts at training ground sales, property companies... Don´t some alarm bells ring?
 
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SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Jan 25, 2022
  • #14
edgy said:
It's literally this.

We are a Brereton away from being a really decent side.
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Going into the Blackburn game Gyokeres was 3 ahead of him. His overall game remains decent but think it’s now 17 games without a goal
 
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Grendel

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  • Jan 25, 2022
  • #15
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
Someone will know more than me on this, but I am pretty sure said development company was owned by Waggot´s wife or something.
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Some Blackburn fan claimed that it was as Venus and his wife had a property company but its a load of rubbish
 
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edgy

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  • Jan 25, 2022
  • #16
SlowerThanPlatt said:
Going into the Blackburn game Gyokeres was 3 ahead of him. His overall game remains decent but think it’s now 17 games without a goal
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He was. And although I agree his overall game is good, he is getting chances everytime he plays.

17 without a goal is shocking though and not many other past players have survived that without serious questioning.
 
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Earlsdon-Loyal-Blue

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  • Jan 25, 2022
  • #17
Skybluemichael said:
Yeah someone from Blackburn came on hear and said the same thing about Venus wife, then someone pointed out that the company closed years ago and his wife had died
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I have family that are Blackburn ST holders. In the last 6 months Blackburn Rovers sold their Brockhall training ground to a recently formed company belonging to the Venky’s with Mogga, Waggot and Venus all in favour of it. I can see why fans have questions about it. The first team now train at the academy, what gets built on the training ground?

On the other hand you could argue that combining First and Youth team training grounds has worked for Blackburn and they’re reaping the results on the pitch with players developing at an impressive rate.

I do agree with comments that we are one Brereton away from being a top team in this league. We are making an insane amount of chances and should be blowing teams away. In recent years, Blackburn have invested money when it matters - such as paying out £1.5 million on Armstrong and £7 million on Diaz which both look like amazing pieces of business based on league position and sell ons.
 

Grendel

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  • Jan 25, 2022
  • #18
Earlsdon-Loyal-Blue said:
I have family that are Blackburn ST holders. In the last 6 months Blackburn Rovers sold their Brockhall training ground to a recently formed company belonging to the Venky’s with Mogga, Waggot and Venus all in favour of it. I can see why fans have questions about it. The first team now train at the academy, what gets built on the training ground?

On the other hand you could argue that combining First and Youth team training grounds has worked for Blackburn and they’re reaping the results on the pitch with players developing at an impressive rate.

I do agree with comments that we are one Brereton away from being a top team in this league. We are making an insane amount of chances and should be blowing teams away. In recent years, Blackburn have invested money when it matters - such as paying out £1.5 million on Armstrong and £7 million on Diaz which both look like amazing pieces of business based on league position and sell ons.
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The Venkys are much maligned but they have ploughed millions of their own personal fortune and have stuck with it and have clearly an actual interest in the football club. They were stupid and naive at the start but have learned fast.

Whatever people think of Waggott, venus and Mowbray its another former CCFC employee that tried to exploit and profit from the Venkys
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jan 25, 2022
  • #19
Don't loads of ex footballers have property companies for their buy-to-lets?
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Jan 25, 2022
  • #20
Frostie said:
He's done a phenomenal job there imo. I know others don't agree.
They have a bottom 3rd wage bill & 2nd youngest squad in the league.
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It wasn't planned as far as I know, was it? He initially tried to spend his way and when the taps were turned off he was very fortunate to be able to fall on a crop of exceptional young players.

That said, I suppose he has to be given credit for getting the best out of Brereton and the way he's integrated some of the youngsters into the team.
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Jan 25, 2022
  • #21
edgy said:
He was. And although I agree his overall game is good, he is getting chances everytime he plays.

17 without a goal is shocking though and not many other past players have survived that without serious questioning.
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Perhaps it's worth remembering Brereton's previous seasons when comparing with Gyokeres. He'd got 17 goals in 133 Championship appearances before the beginning of this season.
 

Skybluemichael

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  • Jan 25, 2022
  • #22
Earlsdon-Loyal-Blue said:
I have family that are Blackburn ST holders. In the last 6 months Blackburn Rovers sold their Brockhall training ground to a recently formed company belonging to the Venky’s with Mogga, Waggot and Venus all in favour of it. I can see why fans have questions about it. The first team now train at the academy, what gets built on the training ground?

On the other hand you could argue that combining First and Youth team training grounds has worked for Blackburn and they’re reaping the results on the pitch with players developing at an impressive rate.

I do agree with comments that we are one Brereton away from being a top team in this league. We are making an insane amount of chances and should be blowing teams away. In recent years, Blackburn have invested money when it matters - such as paying out £1.5 million on Armstrong and £7 million on Diaz which both look like amazing pieces of business based on league position and sell ons.
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Well I didn’t know that but sounds like a way of getting round FFP

Rovers training ground sale explained as financial expert offers insight

Blackburn Rovers' Senior Training Centre was sold by the club to Venkatashwara London Limited in June
www.lancs.live
 

SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Jan 25, 2022
  • #23
Looks like they’ll be losing one of their best players Rothwell to Bournemouth
 

Frostie

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  • Jan 25, 2022
  • #24
Earlsdon-Loyal-Blue said:
I do agree with comments that we are one Brereton away from being a top team in this league. We are making an insane amount of chances and should be blowing teams away. In recent years, Blackburn have invested money when it matters - such as paying out £1.5 million on Armstrong and £7 million on Diaz which both look like amazing pieces of business based on league position and sell ons.
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I'm not so sure. I think it is more our final ball & shot selection that's lacking rather than missing lots of good opportunities.

I'll do some stats analysis on another thread rather than derail this one though.
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Jan 25, 2022
  • #25
SlowerThanPlatt said:
Looks like they’ll be losing one of their best players Rothwell to Bournemouth
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He was very good in our game with them

I would love it if Bournemouth didn't go up
 
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SkyBlueMatt

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  • Jan 25, 2022
  • #26
edgy said:
It's literally this.

We are a Brereton away from being a really decent side.
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Exactly, if Gyokeres had kept up his goal scoring form, we'd be where they are. Take Brereton out that side and they are midtable. Before this season he had scored about 4 goals over two years. Now he's scored 20 already.

He was 1000/1 to score 20 this season.

Just shows how difficult it is to find that consistent goal scorer.





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Skybluefaz

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  • Jan 25, 2022
  • #27
SlowerThanPlatt said:
Looks like they’ll be losing one of their best players Rothwell to Bournemouth
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Little plucky old Bournemouth buying everyone else's best players. Like Fernando I hope they fuck it up.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Jan 25, 2022
  • #28
SlowerThanPlatt said:
Going into the Blackburn game Gyokeres was 3 ahead of him. His overall game remains decent but think it’s now 17 games without a goal
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Its 12 games without a goal by my count, three of which he was on for less than half an hour.
 

cc84cov

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  • Jan 25, 2022
  • #29
edgy said:
It's literally this.

We are a Brereton away from being a really decent side.
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Isn’t Godden scoring at a similar Ish rate ?
 

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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  • Jan 25, 2022
  • #30
cc84cov said:
Isn’t Godden scoring at a similar Ish rate ?
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Probably higher over the last 10 games, but now he is injured.

Gyokeres and Godden have 19 goals total, Brereton has 20.

Main difference is Blackburn score from all over the pitch. We don´t.
 

slowpoke

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  • Jan 25, 2022
  • #31
Deleted member 5849 said:
Don't loads of ex footballers have property companies for their buy-to-lets?
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I believe so it’s been said Robbie Fowler has over a 1000 rented out properties if correct a1000+ houses rented out at say £400 month each that’s what you call a nice little earner
 

stevefloyd

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  • Jan 25, 2022
  • #32
At the risk of being controversial...who gives a flying fuck...this is a Cov forum
 

cc84cov

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  • Jan 25, 2022
  • #33
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
Probably higher over the last 10 games, but now he is injured.

Gyokeres and Godden have 19 goals total, Brereton has 20.

Main difference is Blackburn score from all over the pitch. We don´t.
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They probably have more creativity than O’Hare & Allen also
 
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Gynnsthetonic

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  • Jan 25, 2022
  • #34
stevefloyd said:
At the risk of being controversial...who gives a flying fuck...this is a Cov forum
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We're discussing whether or whether not a team in our division with smaller crowds than us with a similar budget are flying high above other teams with substantially more than some and hopefully something we can emulate, fair play to them!
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jan 25, 2022
  • #35
I don’t think our issue is with the forwards, it’s in midfield.
 
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