EFL cannot enforce their regulations on a team from outside their organisation unless both teams are under the same ownership such Bristol or the football club owns the ground. In this case what Sky wants is irrelevant as Wasps are tied into contractual agreements with BT Sports through the PRL . If Wasps have agreed to give CCFC primacy as part of the deal then that's completely different.Pretty sure primacy is an EFL requirement, its in the regulations somewhere. Think an exception was made in the past due to the circumstances we moved back in but would the EFL allow that over a longer term. Especially in the Championship, can't imagine Sky would be happy to be told they can't show a live game they've selected because it doesn't suit Wasps.
Other teams share without it being an issue so hopefully will be a non-issue for us.
EFL cannot enforce their regulations on a team from outside their organisation unless both teams are under the same ownership such Bristol or the football club owns the ground. In this case what Sky wants is irrelevant as Wasps are tied into contractual agreements with BT Sports through the PRL . If Wasps have agreed to give CCFC primacy as part of the deal then that's completely different.
Surely we should be happy just to be back in COVENTRY. Please just let's see what agreement the 2 sides have come to all we want is a decent pitch to play football on. The primacy bit and Sunday don't think we can dictate that and don't remember playing an excessive amount last time.I hope we’ve got primacy, can’t be dealing with Sunday games all the time
Pretty sure primacy is an EFL requirement, its in the regulations somewhere. Think an exception was made in the past due to the circumstances we moved back in but would the EFL allow that over a longer term. Especially in the Championship, can't imagine Sky would be happy to be told they can't show a live game they've selected because it doesn't suit Wasps.
Other teams share without it being an issue so hopefully will be a non-issue for us.
If CCFC haven't got primacy (and we don't know that they haven't) the EFL may not be happy about it but you know as well as I do they won't appose the move back. Just like most sports organisations they only try to enforce their regulations when it suits themNo but they can disapprove the move back based on it.
Bloody hell are the RAF search & rescue team looking for him then ?....Jim White will be trying to get Tim Fisher on Talk Sport as we speak!!
OK the only new thing is potentially the EFL meeting and maybe the announcement tomorrow? I didn't know if more was said as I have seen somebody on social media say about club shop etc too.
Not sure what is so hard to understand about this, the EFL cannot enforce their regulations on a stadium owner and their team that plays a completely different sport for a different organisation. As for "they made an exception last time" they had no choice as the team that is part of there organisation was a tenant that had use of a stadium as and when the owners weren't using it. this time around it might be different Wasps may well have agreed primacy as part of the deal but if they haven't the EFL cannot enforce it.Yep that's right. I believe they made an exception before because we moved back mid season so fixtures already set etc.
I have a feeling somebody is purposely pushing the information out to stop anybody from pulling out.
Not sure what’s so hard to understand that it’s exactly the same situation at every other stadium with clubs sharing and it works fine there. Play on opposite weekends.Not sure what is so hard to understand about this, the EFL cannot enforce their regulations on a stadium owner and their team that plays a completely different sport for a different organisation. As for "they made an exception last time" they had no choice as the team that is part of there organisation was a tenant that had use of a stadium as and when the owners weren't using it. this time around it might be different Wasps may well have agreed primacy as part of the deal but if they haven't the EFL cannot enforce it.
No but they can disapprove the move back based on it.
Also absolutely understandable the pre/post match stuff will be missed by those who incorporated it into their match day routine. I have a decent pre Ricoh routine (nice pub for ale/lunch then a nice walk to the ground), but it’s nothing compared to Digbeth.
I'm not disagreeing with you, just trying to point out that the EFL cannot dictate when Wasps can and can't play in the stadium. absolutely no reason why the fixture list can't be done to accommodate both teams but as we saw last time there will be fixture clashes because both the PRL & EFL will compile their fixtures independently. If its not made public who has primacy it will become obvious very quickly when the fixtures are released as the secondary club will have move theirs. common sense would say if four fixtures clash move two each but when has common sense prevailed between Wasps and SISUNot sure what’s so hard to understand that it’s exactly the same situation at every other stadium with clubs sharing and it works fine there. Play on opposite weekends.
The 7 year minimum/10 year maximum term, and the EC action no longer being material for Wasps is all huge news, and I hadn’t seen it anywhere else.
Everyone’s sources are the same if you move far enough along the chain, but this seems like a genuine scoop for Gilbert which is why we’re all talking about it.
Not sure what is so hard to understand about this, the EFL cannot enforce their regulations on a stadium owner and their team that plays a completely different sport for a different organisation. As for "they made an exception last time" they had no choice as the team that is part of there organisation was a tenant that had use of a stadium as and when the owners weren't using it. this time around it might be different Wasps may well have agreed primacy as part of the deal but if they haven't the EFL cannot enforce it.
Majority of Wasps fans I know are and have always been more than happy to CCFC playing at the RicohHas the wasps fan started to moan yet, Saying they dont want us back ?
Genuine question, primacy was agreed for the football club as part of the terms when CCC sold to Wasps was this before the move to Northampton?Well no, of course they can't & the EFL rarely enforce their own 'guidelines' anyway just stating what was said previously.
Of course primacy for the football club was agreed as part of the initial set of terms for Wasps move by the council, not that any of them were kept to anyway.
Genuine question, primacy was agreed for the football club as part of the terms when CCC sold to Wasps was this before the move to Northampton?
Genuine question, primacy was agreed for the football club as part of the terms when CCC sold to Wasps was this before the move to Northampton?
Ok didn't word it very well and i'm not a clear on the timelines a you guys. Did theErm.... you answered the question yourself.
from a website you show screen shot of comments of two people what does that prove. The Once a Wasp forum is exactly the same as one here, some people are sensible and some are dickheads.
But the EFL can say they won't authorise a groundshare if CCFC don't have primacy. We all know that is unlikely as the EFL aren't great at enforcing the rules but its not correct to say it cannot happen.I'm not disagreeing with you, just trying to point out that the EFL cannot dictate when Wasps can and can't play in the stadium. absolutely no reason why the fixture list can't be done to accommodate both teams but as we saw last time there will be fixture clashes because both the PRL & EFL will compile their fixtures independently. If its not made public who has primacy it will become obvious very quickly when the fixtures are released as the secondary club will have move theirs. common sense would say if four fixtures clash move two each but when has common sense prevailed between Wasps and SISU
As you say if everyone acts like adults this shouldn't be an issue but that wasn't the case last time round when we had multiple games moved, something which I would suggest may well have impacted the attendance at those games. Fingers crossed we don't get treated like second class citizens if the news of a return is true.EFL said:13.4.1 the playing of any of the Club’s first team matches will always take precedence over the activities of the other party to the agreement;
13.4.2 the Club shall have the ability to postpone other activities scheduled to take place on the pitch in the immediately preceding 48 hour period where in the opinion of the Club, acting reasonably, there is a risk that such activity may result in the subsequent postponement or abandonment of a match to be played under the auspices of The League; and
13.4.3 where a sport other than football will be played on the pitch the playing surface shall be a hybrid (i.e. Desso or equivalent) construction, the specification of which shall be subject to the prior approval of the League. For the avoidance of doubt, the requirements of this Regulation 13.4.3 will apply to all existing ground share agreements with effect from 1 July 2019.
Guidance
Clubs must have primacy of fixture and show the ability to postpone any other activity on the pitch on 48 hours’ notice.
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