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SBAndy

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  • Oct 6, 2022
  • #71
Grendel said:
you are ignoring the fact two players with the most value could decide to negotiate A deal and leave for free the following season
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But as he’s said, in that event you’d have Gyokeres and Hamer in L1 for a full season. They’d take the piss.
 
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SBT

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  • Oct 6, 2022
  • #72
Grendel said:
you are ignoring the fact two players with the most value could decide to negotiate A deal and leave for free the following season
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Didn't you spend most of last weekend arguing with me that Gyokeres' value was only ever likely to increase?
 

Grendel

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  • Oct 6, 2022
  • #73
SBAndy said:
But as he’s said, in that event you’d have Gyokeres and Hamer in L1 for a full season. They’d take the piss.
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Automatic assured then would it?
 

Grendel

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  • Oct 6, 2022
  • #74
SBT said:
Didn't you spend most of last weekend arguing with me that Gyokeres' value was only ever likely to increase?
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No I said the only hope of staying in the league is retaining him - his value will increase clearly if a premier league team wants him but relegation costs you £7 million
 
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SBT

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  • Oct 6, 2022
  • #75
Grendel said:
No I said the only hope of staying in the league is retaining him - his value will increase clearly if a premier league team wants him but relegation costs you £7 million
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Grendel said:
If he keeps performing his value will escalate
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Grendel said:
You stick or twist - I’d stick at all cost as if he keeps performing he’s value will escalate
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Grendel

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  • Oct 6, 2022
  • #76
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Er no this discussion is purely based on the hypothesis of relegation

the discussion previously was on the basis that we had to sell now to maximise a fee

I said we should not sell him as he’s the only hope of staying in this league whereas you were adamant we had to sell him. If he succeeds his value would clearly escalate and he’s worth £7 million in TV revenue alone as without him we are down
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Oct 6, 2022
  • #77
Deleted member 5849 said:
It's looking like a virtually new team next season isn't it. Sell Hamer, O'Hare, *and* Gyokeres, lots out of contract, and use the cash and wages to bring in just about everybody!
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I floated that some months ago and it wasn’t too popular, even with me. But it looks unavoidable now.
 
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Grendel

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  • Oct 6, 2022
  • #78
Oh you seem to have edited my quote to distort context

And breathe

Talk about moving the goalposts. 🤣🤣 If you genuinely think we’ll finish around the same place, surely you’d take anything above 15th? I do think we will be mid table yeah. You all seem to be banging on about relegation hence why I suggested that as a bet. Happily take £30 on 15th or higher to...
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stupot07

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  • Oct 6, 2022
  • #79
fernandopartridge said:
He's a left wing back and played his whole career there, hasn't he already got as many assists as Maatsen did

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Maatsen only had one assist when playing left wing back, the others were in his short stint in attacking midfield.

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SBT

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 6, 2022
  • #80
Grendel said:
Oh you seem to have edited my quote to distort context

And breathe

Talk about moving the goalposts. 🤣🤣 If you genuinely think we’ll finish around the same place, surely you’d take anything above 15th? I do think we will be mid table yeah. You all seem to be banging on about relegation hence why I suggested that as a bet. Happily take £30 on 15th or higher to...
www.skybluestalk.co.uk
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Everyone else please feel free to click through to the original post to see the crucial context I cut out. I didn't mean to suggest that Grendel was just arguing contrary points for the sake of it, he would never do this.
 

Grendel

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  • Oct 6, 2022
  • #81
SBT said:


Everyone else please feel free to click through to the original post to see the crucial context I cut out. I didn't mean to suggest that Grendel was just arguing contrary points for the sake of it, he would never do this.
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I wasn’t arguing contrary points - you have said we need to sell him going back to tbe sumner window which was utter nonsense

I’ve said we need to keep him as he’s the only hope we have. His value will escalate if he scores through the season clearly if a premier league club wants him. If they don’t and we survive he’s still worth as much as a championship club will pay in TV revenue

I mean you’ve even claimed we can use proceeds of sale of one of these players to actually sign the others on improved extended deals. Where on planet reality is that ever happening?
 
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SBT

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  • Oct 6, 2022
  • #82
Grendel said:
I’ve said we need to keep him as he’s the only hope we have. His value will escalate if he scores through the season clearly if a premier league club wants him. If they don’t and we survive he’s still worth as much as a championship club will pay in TV revenue
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Sounds like an important caveat that could have been mentioned at the time! Oh well. I look forward to us getting £7 million for him next summer in that case.

Grendel said:
I mean you’ve even claimed we can use proceeds of sale of one of these players to actually sign the others on improved extended deals. Where on planet reality is that ever happening?
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I mean - we got the order of business wrong, but hasn't it already technically happened with Dom Hyam?
 

David O'Day

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  • Oct 6, 2022
  • #83
Pezza said:
He plays like a left back, less so like a wing back - he isn't good enough going forward, his technique for both shooting and passing is poor, crossing is average and isn't quick enough.

Defensively he is decent.

That's my point of view and based on what I've seen this season.
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Not seen him much this year then fella?
 
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shmmeee

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  • Oct 6, 2022
  • #84
Grendel said:
you are ignoring the fact two players with the most value could decide to negotiate A deal and leave for free the following season
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No I’ve already addressed it. It’s not particularly likely first of all, and if it were their wage would be offset by others leaving and they’d be ridiculously overpowered for L1 as solid upper Championship players.

The fact you’ve had to concoct some mental scenario where all our star players refuse to leave and somehow think this is a better option than going on the cheap shows how fine well be.
 

Grendel

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  • Oct 6, 2022
  • #85
SBT said:
Sounds like an important caveat that could have been mentioned at the time! Oh well. I look forward to us getting £7 million for him next summer in that case.



I mean - we got the order of business wrong, but hasn't it already technically happened with Dom Hyam?
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No more important than we should have sold him already as Brentford do (then I pointed out the small £100m interest free loan and £44m wage bill) and Hull got it right “notwithstanding their current form”’

Oh and as hamer and Gyokeres areny Worth a million anyway what can we do (see who liked The post as well)

Match Thread - Nottingham Forest (H)

Fadz (one pass aside) and O'Hare doing what they can. Everyone else looks like they've barely sniffed a ball in pre-season
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SBT

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  • Oct 6, 2022
  • #86
Grendel said:
No more important than we should have sold him already as Brentford do (then I pointed out the small £100m interest free loan and £44m wage bill) and Hull got it right “notwithstanding their current form”’

Oh and as hamer and Gyokeres areny Worth a million anyway what can we do (see who liked The post as well)

Match Thread - Nottingham Forest (H)

Fadz (one pass aside) and O'Hare doing what they can. Everyone else looks like they've barely sniffed a ball in pre-season
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Lol some deep cuts coming out tonight - I’m sorry, those VAR gifs maybe were a little cruel.
 
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Grendel

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  • Oct 6, 2022
  • #87
SBT said:
Lol some deep cuts coming out tonight - I’m sorry, those VAR gifs maybe were a little cruel.
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Lol as if I give a fuck. Give it out take it back. Do you think we’d get half a million for Gyokeres?
 

Evo1883

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  • Oct 22, 2022
  • #88
What a player
 

stupot07

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  • Oct 22, 2022
  • #89
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fatso

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  • Oct 22, 2022
  • #90
Really solid defender, played a big part in the record breaking run of clean sheets.
 

rob9872

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  • Oct 22, 2022
  • #91
Steady. All the plaudits in diff games for Vik, Gus, Fadz and rightly so, but Bidwell my PotS so far.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Oct 22, 2022
  • #92
rob9872 said:
Steady. All the plaudits in diff games for Vik, Gus, Fadz and rightly so, but Bidwell my PotS so far.
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I'd agree, although I actually thought today was one of his poorer games!
 

Evo1883

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  • Oct 22, 2022
  • #93
Deleted member 5849 said:
I'd agree, although I actually thought today was one of his poorer games!
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Really , thought besides 1 poor pass he was pretty solid .. maybe I missed a couple of poor passes first half
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Oct 22, 2022
  • #94
Evo1883 said:
Really , thought besides 1 poor pass he was pretty solid .. maybe I missed a couple of poor passes first half
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Am saying that more because he was a limited attacking threat today IMHO. He's been a good (sometimes, the only!) outlet further up, but today he wasn't so hot there.
 
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lordy_87

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  • Feb 25, 2023
  • #95
Thought he was great today
 
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Evo1883

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  • Feb 25, 2023
  • #96
lordy_87 said:
Thought he was great today
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Actually think he's had a good season
 
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lordy_87

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  • Feb 25, 2023
  • #97
Evo1883 said:
Actually think he's had a good season
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Agreed , takes a lot of unfair criticism but he's rock solid and though not that quick isn't too shabby going forwards.
 
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PVA

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  • Feb 25, 2023
  • #98
One really bad defensive lapse today, but otherwise solid as per.

I do think we might see a little more of JWE in some of the games against weaker opposition though.
 

Londonccfcfan

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  • Feb 25, 2023
  • #99
PVA said:
One really bad defensive lapse today, but otherwise solid as per.

I do think we might see a little more of JWE in some of the games against weaker opposition though.
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Esbrand is the awfull. Schoolboy utterly lost
 
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Calista

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  • Feb 25, 2023
  • #100
Evo1883 said:
Actually think he's had a good season
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True, but he would be twice the player if he could whip a cross in. Mostly just chips it vaguely in the direction of the goalmouth.
 
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Grendel

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  • Feb 25, 2023
  • #101
PVA said:
One really bad defensive lapse today, but otherwise solid as per.

I do think we might see a little more of JWE in some of the games against weaker opposition though.
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I fucking hope not.
 
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PVA

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  • Feb 25, 2023
  • #102
Londonccfcfan said:
Esbrand is the awfull. Schoolboy utterly lost
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He was lost at AM. Much better at LWB (understandably).
 
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Grendel

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  • Feb 25, 2023
  • #103
PVA said:
He was lost at AM. Much better at LWB (understandably).
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he wasn’t any better and no where near the quality of Bidwell
 
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Evo1883

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  • Feb 25, 2023
  • #104
Grendel said:
he wasn’t any better and no where near the quality of Bidwell
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I have to admit i agree
 

RegTheDonk

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 25, 2023
  • #105
Thought he's done well recently and didn't deserve to come off but would have looked strange I suppose having God replace BW. I get the lad was brought in as a LWB and if Bidwell was tiring then fair enough but looked fairly headless filling in for Palmer.
 
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