No dynamism going forwards, questionable at the back. Used to slowly slowly bore you to death Swansea and not swashbuckling Cov I reckon.
Didn't he literally set their goal up against us?No dynamism going forwards, questionable at the back. Used to slowly slowly bore you to death Swansea and not swashbuckling Cov I reckon.
Didn't he literally set their goal up against us?
He did. They were the only side that I felt we couldn’t lay a glove on at home. They were able to play around us and create space and angles we couldn’t cope with. Still bitter about the offside goal though. It was only 2 metres!Didn't he literally set their goal up against us?
That he was dynamic getting forward.What’s your point? That would support my theory of “used to playing Swansea style”
That he was dynamic getting forward.
He's also scored more than most of our players this season.
Swansea only went crazy on possession this since season Martin took over, that's not how they played under Cooper.He wasn’t, they play little triangles with players almost static and work the ball towards goal. He played exactly the same against us as he does for us. I hope he can adapt but at the moment he doesn’t really fit the team. It’s fine, a lot of new signings take a while to understand how we play. But the question was what are people not seeing and for me it’s that. He’s used to a possession team.
Swansea only went crazy on possession this since season Martin took over, that's not how they played under Cooper.
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He hasn't even been here two weeks yet and has gone straight into playing after after not being in the Swansea side for two months.Then I’ve no idea why a young DM out of position om the right has looked so much more dangerous last two games.
Well you did say Moore was utterly useless so anything is possibleThen I’ve no idea why a young DM out of position om the right has looked so much more dangerous last two games.
Handy to get the fishing gear in the back though!Went for Avenger Estate as my dad had one and it was slow with a fat arse.
He hasn't even been here two weeks yet and has gone straight into playing after after not being in the Swansea side for two months.
Maybe give him a chance to settle in before having a meltdown.
I could understand if he had been terrible so far but he's been fine. Not outstanding but not rubbish either.Yes yes everything that’s not stating who your favourite player is and how awesome we are is a meltdown. Sure buddy.
The commentary on Bidwell has been almost exclusively “not seen much yet but sure he’ll bed in”. Stop looking for things that aren’t there.
Then I’ve no idea why a young DM out of position om the right has looked so much more dangerous last two games.
Very rare you will see a team play 5 at the back and have both wing backs bombing, one usually sits and the other goes.View attachment 23709
Eccles is getting a lot further forward than Bidwell. Whether Bidwell is just less adventurous, having to do more defending, or just still getting to grips with his responsibilities in this system, I don’t know. But I think MR will want him getting higher up the pitch, as we’re a lot more effective when we stretch the play.
Very rare you will see a team play 5 at the back and have both wing backs bombing, one usually sits and the other goes.
Call me old fashioned but first of all I want our wing backs to be strong at defending and have very good positional sense - and then it's obviously a bonus if they are exceptional in attack.Go and look at the average player positions from our last few games: https://www.whoscored.com/Teams/17/Show/England-Coventry
That only shows back to Millwall at home, but in every game, each of our starting wing backs spend most of their time in the opposing team’s half, with one exception - Jake Bidwell.
Liverpool are an obvious exception amd that is while playing 4 at the back. I think it's one sits while the other goes. If it's only 1 going it becomes predictableVery rare you will see a team play 5 at the back and have both wing backs bombing, one usually sits and the other goes.
Call me old fashioned but first of all I want our wing backs to be strong at defending and have very good positional sense - and then it's obviously a bonus if they are exceptional in attack.
How on earth anyone can rush to judgement after a couple of games - it's simply mind blowing.
I wouldn’t be surprised we go down that road both Kane & Bidwell are full backs rather than wing backs both can overlap and we know Todd can pass and delivers good crosses into the box I think Bidwell is a similar type of player. Does that mean a back four eventually time will tell.Liverpool are an obvious exception amd that is while playing 4 at the back. I think it's one sits while the other goes. If it's only 1 going it becomes predictable
As said he is new and the end of Feb is a fair more sensible time to make any judgements.
That's reasonable SBT and I see your point - and I think you see what I'm saying as well!Our wing backs are the most productive attacking outlet we have. Without them we hardly create chances at all. Just look at how few assists the rest of our midfield has.
I’m not passing judgment on Bidwell, but it’s clear he’s not getting forward as much as the alternatives at LWB do. I expect that to change as he beds in, but I worry about how it affects us in the meantime.
Don't know SP; 3 at the back is a big part of how we have been set up for a few years now. Can't see Robins changing that except if we lose our LCB again.I wouldn’t be surprised we go down that road both Kane & Bidwell are full backs rather than wing backs both can overlap and we know Todd can pass and delivers good crosses into the box I think Bidwell is a similar type of player. Does that mean a back four eventually time will tell.
That’s what I meant an option.Don't know SP; 3 at the back is a big part of how we have been set up for a few years now. Can't see Robins changing that except if we lose our LCB again.
We tried 4 at the back last season and looked awful but as you say with new personnel it's an option in certain games/situations.
Our wing backs are the most productive attacking outlet we have. Without them we hardly create chances at all. Just look at how few assists the rest of our midfield has.
I’m not passing judgment on Bidwell, but it’s clear he’s not getting forward as much as the alternatives at LWB do. I expect that to change as he beds in, but I worry about how it affects us in the meantime.
Be careful, wing backs don’t need to take players onMaatsen would be my choice. His defensive “weakness” are over exaggerated and what he offers offensively far outweigh any defensive concerns.
He is an outlet at LWB and has the ability to make things happen.
That said, Bidwells championship pedigree is impressive and he’s been brought in on a decent salary for a reason. I’ve not been impressed so far, but I put that down to rustiness and being new to the team.
Bidwell and Kane have both been described as ‘solid’ which is fine, but if we have two solid WB’s, who aren’t willing to take defenders on and are fairly predictable, we become easier to play against and lose some dynamism.
I wouldn’t be surprised to see them rotated depending on the opposition. But my default is to play on the front foot and be attacking, hence my preference for Maatsen.
Another “coup” #RollsRoyceAnyone fancy telling him he’s meant to be playing as a wing back?
You show time and time again that you are wrong so I guess with your latest target he will come good.Another “coup” #RollsRoyce
Looks slow to play LWB looks a flat 4 player but yes early days let’s see I’ll give him another 14 days that’s itYou show time and time again that you are wrong so I guess with your latest target he will come good.
Anyone fancy telling him he’s meant to be playing as a wing back?
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