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slowpoke

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  • Jan 27, 2022
  • #71
This will be an on going debate Kane or Dabo but this is a division higher and the opposition tougher and in the main better organised bit of a dilemma for Robins a nice one I suppose. Dabo has shown us a bit of versatility playing across the back five.
 

stupot07

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  • Jan 27, 2022
  • #72
harvey098 said:
How on earth can people say he’s better defensively than Maatsan? He’s played a game and a half and already produced the worst bit of defending I’ve seen all season.

Not writing him off but can’t see what you lot have seen to suggest he’s a better defender than Maatsan yet.
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harvey098 said:
How on earth can people say he’s better defensively than Maatsan? He’s played a game and a half and already produced the worst bit of defending I’ve seen all season.

Not writing him off but can’t see what you lot have seen to suggest he’s a better defender than Maatsan yet.
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If you think that's the worst bit of defending you've seen all season, I'd suggest re-watching back the Luton away highlights.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Jan 27, 2022
  • #73
We seem to have two balanced options on each side now. One defensive with good delivery, one with a bit of pace and skill. Nice problem to have.

Edit: and a third playing out of position and a fourth signed last season and miles off the first team.
 

slowpoke

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  • Jan 27, 2022
  • #74
stupot07 said:
If you think that's the worst bit of defending you've seen all season, I'd suggest re-watching back the Luton away highlights.
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stupot07 said:
If you think that's the worst bit of defending you've seen all season, I'd suggest re-watching back the Luton away highlights.
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That was an odd absolute disastrous night thankfully has turned to be a one off.
 

Sky Blue Harry H

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  • Jan 27, 2022
  • #75
shmmeee said:
Either Dabo hasn’t been fit since his injury in L1, or he’s not stepped up like many thought he would.
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I think it's the former. Just hoping that whatever that injury was hasn't had a permanent effect. Part of what Dabo was always clever at was luring in a challenge, but somehow wriggling past the defender. Not sure he ever had a lot of pace, but for me it has been apparent he has been playing within himself/managing his game, pretty much since the injury.
 
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harvey098

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  • Jan 27, 2022
  • #76
stupot07 said:
If you think that's the worst bit of defending you've seen all season, I'd suggest re-watching back the Luton away highlights.
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Haha true there was a lot of bad defending in that game obviously but no individual piece of defending was as bad as whatever Bidwell was doing against QPR. Hopefully put it down to rustiness but just bizarre.
 

Kubrick

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  • Jan 27, 2022
  • #77
Warwickshire lad said:
Think some of us forget just how good Dabo has been for us. Until his injury,he was one of the first names on the team sheet.
He has had some mamoth performances, he will come good again.
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5 assists and a goal for Kane, 0 for Dabo and he’s started twice as many games. Move on.
 
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cc84cov

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  • Jan 27, 2022
  • #78
jamboy said:
5 assists and a goal for Kane, 0 for Dabo and he’s started twice as many games. Move on.
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5 assists for kane ? How many has O’Hare got our superstar ? @Grendel
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jan 27, 2022
  • #79
cc84cov said:
5 assists for kane ? How many has O’Hare got our superstar ? @Grendel
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McFadzean has treble his goal tally
 

SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Jan 27, 2022
  • #80
cc84cov said:
5 assists for kane ? How many has O’Hare got our superstar ? @Grendel
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He has 4 the same as him
 

GaryMabbuttsLeftKnee

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  • Jan 27, 2022
  • #81
Ccfcisparks said:
Surprised peoples comments about Dabo, yes hes been poor this season, but last year he was one of our main attacking outlets.
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I might be misremembering the latter part of the season but I remember for a fairly significant part after his comeback from injury he was pretty dreadful. A game against Reading stands out as a particular low point. I recall being really surprised about how our of place he looked in the Championship. I think he only started about half the games and don’t think he got a single assist so saying he was one of our main attacking outlet might be a bit of a stretch.


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Kubrick

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  • Jan 28, 2022
  • #82
SlowerThanPlatt said:
He has 4 the same as him
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Played almost twice as many games.
 

cc84cov

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  • Jan 28, 2022
  • #83
jamboy said:
Played almost twice as many games.
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He’s also a right back
 
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Kilclines curly mullet

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  • Jan 28, 2022
  • #84
Kane or Dabo

There really is no debate - Kane is by far the better all round player as demonstrated by his stats this season. His defending is solid and his attacking threat from wing back is as good as anyone’s in this league.

Dabo has been a great servant and as served us well (we have also been good for him) but football moves on and as you go up the leagues you need better players or those that can continually step up (Godden /Hyam etc). For me, Dabo has not stepped up enough over the past season and a half which is why Kane was bought in.

Dabo for me is now a good squad player but not first choice.
 
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Gibbo

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  • Jan 28, 2022
  • #85
oN Bidwell: He may be pemanent, but is he an upgrade on the three loans, Sam Mac, Ryan Giles and Maatsen? Unlikely.
 
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skybluegod

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  • Jan 28, 2022
  • #86
SlowerThanPlatt said:
He has 4 the same as him
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Its 5 for Kane according to the BBC.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jan 28, 2022
  • #87
Gibbo said:
oN Bidwell: He may be pemanent, but is he an upgrade on the three loans, Sam Mac, Ryan Giles and Maatsen? Unlikely.
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Well, he'll be an upgrade on all of them next season, when they're not at the club. Less loans means less worrying whether we can match like-with-like the following season.
 

SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Jan 28, 2022
  • #88
skybluegod said:
Its 5 for Kane according to the BBC.
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Yes think they’re crediting him with the assist for the OG. Whoscored doesn’t
 
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Gibbo

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  • Jan 28, 2022
  • #89
Deleted member 5849 said:
Well, he'll be an upgrade on all of them next season, when they're not at the club. Less loans means less worrying whether we can match like-with-like the following season.
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Wrong.

Loans are an absolutely essential part of the mix. Usually among the best players in the team and freshen up the squad. They are also a flexible & low risk source with potential for long term recruitment (O'Hare, Sheaf, Gyokeres). We needed all 5 last season to stay up - James did us a great job. I think majority opinion would like us to hang onto C-S. An ex-loanee fits in more easily than a new player and they are good for positions that are tricky to fill - like leftsided ones.

Anyway, the longevity of contracted players is considerably over-exagerated. The current players regularly featuring - by years. In brackets - first team regulars.

5 (1)Kelly & Shipley (both barely featuring) and Hyam
4 (0) None
3 (4) Allen, McFadz O'Hare (loan) , Godden, Dabo, Rose, Wilson
2 (3) Gyokeres (loan), Hamer, Sheaf (loan), Eccles, [Walker]
1 (6) Moore, Bidwell, Kane, Clarke-Salter (loan), Maatsen (loan), Waghorn (assuming he was fit),

11/21 recruited in the last 2 years. And it's not just because our promotions have demanded a lot of upgrades. This level of turnover is essential to keep afloat.

Fans want continuity and new players at the same time. Discuss.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jan 28, 2022
  • #90
Gibbo said:
Wrong.

Loans are an absolutely essential part of the mix. Usually among the best players in the team and freshen up the squad. They are also a flexible & low risk source with potential for long term recruitment (O'Hare, Sheaf, Gyokeres). We needed all 5 last season to stay up - James did us a great job. I think majority opinion would like us to hang onto C-S. An ex-loanee fits in more easily than a new player and they are good for positions that are tricky to fill - like leftsided ones.

Anyway, the longevity of contracted players is considerably over-exagerated. The current players regularly featuring - by years. In brackets - first team regulars.

5 (1)Kelly & Shipley (both barely featuring) and Hyam
4 (0) None
3 (4) Allen, McFadz O'Hare (loan) , Godden, Dabo, Rose, Wilson
2 (3) Gyokeres (loan), Hamer, Sheaf (loan), Eccles, [Walker]
1 (6) Moore, Bidwell, Kane, Clarke-Salter (loan), Maatsen (loan), Waghorn (assuming he was fit),

11/21 recruited in the last 2 years. And it's not just because our promotions have demanded a lot of upgrades. This level of turnover is essential to keep afloat.

Fans want continuity and new players at the same time. Discuss.
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We're in control of what happens to the permanent contracts at the end of the season. Ergo, we can guarantee we have a player for that position of a certain level, that we can choose to try and upgrade... or not.

As opposed to starting with nowt, nada, zip, zilch.
 
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Deleted member 9744

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  • Jan 28, 2022
  • #91
Gibbo said:
Wrong.

Loans are an absolutely essential part of the mix. Usually among the best players in the team and freshen up the squad. They are also a flexible & low risk source with potential for long term recruitment (O'Hare, Sheaf, Gyokeres). We needed all 5 last season to stay up - James did us a great job. I think majority opinion would like us to hang onto C-S. An ex-loanee fits in more easily than a new player and they are good for positions that are tricky to fill - like leftsided ones.

Anyway, the longevity of contracted players is considerably over-exagerated. The current players regularly featuring - by years. In brackets - first team regulars.

5 (1)Kelly & Shipley (both barely featuring) and Hyam
4 (0) None
3 (4) Allen, McFadz O'Hare (loan) , Godden, Dabo, Rose, Wilson
2 (3) Gyokeres (loan), Hamer, Sheaf (loan), Eccles, [Walker]
1 (6) Moore, Bidwell, Kane, Clarke-Salter (loan), Maatsen (loan), Waghorn (assuming he was fit),

11/21 recruited in the last 2 years. And it's not just because our promotions have demanded a lot of upgrades. This level of turnover is essential to keep afloat.

Fans want continuity and new players at the same time. Discuss.
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Interesting and fair points.

The nature of loans we have had in recent years has changed substantialy, partly because of the change in the rules meaning that they are either half season or full season. A few good quality longer term loans can be a great addition to the squad as has happened recently. Trying to cover multiple positions with a succession of short term loans of questionable quality didn't work at all and was in fact integral to our fall to League 2.
 
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stupot07

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  • Jan 28, 2022
  • #92
Gibbo said:
oN Bidwell: He may be pemanent, but is he an upgrade on the three loans, Sam Mac, Ryan Giles and Maatsen? Unlikely.
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Why is it unlikely? He has over 300 games in the championship, 450 games in total and still in his prime, whilst there will be elements those players may be better than him of course he is an upgrade on Sam Mac, Giles and Maatsen. He has proven championship quality. They may develop in time into much better players like Van Aarnholt, Henderson, etc, but they may also decline like Sterry, Bright, etc


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slowpoke

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  • Jan 28, 2022
  • #93
Gibbo said:
oN Bidwell: He may be pemanent, but is he an upgrade on the three loans, Sam Mac, Ryan Giles and Maatsen? Unlikely.
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Yes, because he is permanent
 

stupot07

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 28, 2022
  • #94
Gibbo said:
Anyway, the longevity of contracted players is considerably over-exagerated. The current players regularly featuring - by years. In brackets - first team regulars.

5 (1)Kelly & Shipley (both barely featuring) and Hyam
4 (0) None
3 (4) Allen, McFadz O'Hare (loan) , Godden, Dabo, Rose, Wilson
2 (3) Gyokeres (loan), Hamer, Sheaf (loan), Eccles, [Walker]
1 (6) Moore, Bidwell, Kane, Clarke-Salter (loan), Maatsen (loan), Waghorn (assuming he was fit),
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5 (1)Kelly & Shipley (both barely featuring) and Hyam
4 (0) None
3 (6) Allen, McFadz O'Hare (loan) , Godden, Dabo, Rose, Wilson
2 (3) Gyokeres (loan), Hamer, Sheaf (loan), Eccles, [Walker]
1 (6) Moore, Bidwell, Kane, Clarke-Salter (loan), Maatsen (loan), Waghorn (assuming he was fit),

Out of those the only ones that aren't regular first teamers are Kelly, Shipley, Wilson and the recently returned from injury Eccles and Wilson is a back up keeper so you would expect not to play much.



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Deleted member 9744

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  • Jan 28, 2022
  • #95
stupot07 said:
Why is it unlikely? He has over 300 games in the championship, 450 games in total and still in his prime, whilst there will be elements those players may be better than him of course he is an upgrade on Sam Mac, Giles and Maatsen. He has proven championship quality. They may develop in time into much better players like Van Aarnholt, Henderson, etc, but they may also decline like Sterry, Bright, etc


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Agree but I think it is unlikely McCallum and Maatsen won't play at a higher level. Possibly even Giles.
 

stupot07

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  • Jan 28, 2022
  • #96
Deleted member 9744 said:
Agree but I think it is unlikely McCallum and Maatsen won't play at a higher level. Possibly even Giles.
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Maatsen probably will, I'm not convinced with McCallum tbf.

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Skybluedownunder

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  • Jan 28, 2022
  • #97
junglej13 said:
Reminds of Chris Stokes. In a good way. Solid and dependable. Think he will improve offensively once he settles in. Also last night was generally a very risk averse line up for the first hour.
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You rated Chris Stokes? I personally didn’t


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Terry_dactyl

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  • Jan 29, 2022
  • #98
Grendel said:
Google Chris Marsden Billy Wright
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Just caught up with this. Rule number one don’t disrespect a club legend - especially infront of the owner/anyone else.
No excuse but I guess he may have some regrets about his under the influence behaviour?
Reminded me of this story. I suspect Ronaldo couldn’t give a shit about his actions…

Why United should let this ego walk off to Madrid

Ronaldo's sound bites have become increasingly strategic, as if he thinks we cannot see what he is doing, says Daniel Taylor
amp.theguardian.com
 

cc84cov

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  • Jan 29, 2022
  • #99
3 & half year contract ?
 

Ccfcisparks

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  • Jan 29, 2022
  • #100
cc84cov said:
3 & half year contract ?
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He’s been in the door 2 weeks you melt
 
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cc84cov

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  • Jan 29, 2022
  • #101
Ccfcisparks said:
He’s been in the door 2 weeks you melt
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Same as last weeks goal mate can’t be arsed to get goal side
 

Ccfcisparks

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  • Jan 29, 2022
  • #102
cc84cov said:
Same as last weeks goal mate can’t be arsed to get goal side
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Just utter shite as per usual
 
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Nick

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  • Jan 29, 2022
  • #103
cc84cov said:
Same as last weeks goal mate can’t be arsed to get goal side
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What you on about?
 

Ccfcisparks

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  • Jan 29, 2022
  • #104
Nick said:
What you on about?
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He just talks complete and utter gibberish
 
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cc84cov

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  • Jan 29, 2022
  • #105
Nick said:
What you on about?
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He should of tracked his man same as last week game let his man get to the ball first
 
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