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SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Jul 14, 2021
  • #36
HuckerbyDublinWhelan said:
Pretty sure there were plenty of people on Twitter claiming we’d be getting 25k a week if we returned to the Ricoh…. Thousands of people who said they’d not go to st Andrews but would definitely go to the Ricoh
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We’ve had over 25,000 for a league match only 7 times since the Ricoh opened (most of them down to to massive away support)
 

COV

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  • Jul 14, 2021
  • #37
SlowerThanPlatt said:
We’ve had over 25,000 for a league match only 7 times since the Ricoh opened (most of them down to to massive away support)
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Our issue is not size of support, it’s consistent support. Even in the old division one days we could get 23k one week and 12k the next.
 
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Grendel

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  • Jul 14, 2021
  • #38
COV said:
Well late 80s as well. We didn’t have 30k but we compared well to our rivals at that point. Most of them were below us, Wolves, West Brom, Birmingham, Leicester and so on
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From memory Leicester were better
 

CDK

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  • Jul 14, 2021
  • #39
HuckerbyDublinWhelan said:
Pretty sure there were plenty of people on Twitter claiming we’d be getting 25k a week if we returned to the Ricoh…. Thousands of people who said they’d not go to st Andrews but would definitely go to the Ricoh
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Now is the time for those fans to get off there arses stop talking and start walking down to the CBS as no excuse now.
 
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Legia Sky Blue

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  • Jul 14, 2021
  • #40
slowpoke said:
No it isn’t it’s about the same 330k for Nottingham 325k for Cov. and they do have two football clubs.
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Rubbish, you're just showing your ignorance of the geography of Nottingham. The figure you're quoting is the city of Nottingham only, but the conurbation of Nottingham is double that. By your definition Forest wouldn't count as a Nottingham club anyway as their ground is in Rushcliffe and not the City of Nottingham!!
 

COV

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  • Jul 14, 2021
  • #41
Grendel said:
From memory Leicester were better
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I meant they were in the divisions below. Crowds I think we were better than all of them in the late 80s only Villa higher and they are not really ‘rivals’
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jul 14, 2021
  • #42
Budgeting for 17000 I think
 
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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  • Jul 14, 2021
  • #43
CDK said:
Now is the time for those fans to get off there arses stop talking and start walking down to the CBS as no excuse now.
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Agreed. This was the tongue in cheek point I was making. These people have got to stop their bullshit excuses and get up and support that team
 

blunted

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  • Jul 14, 2021
  • #44
SAJ said:
Tbf population of Nottingham is roughly twice that of Coventry and I imagine there are more Forest than County fans
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Think the population of the city of Nottingham is smaller than the city of Coventry. The wider county is twice that of Coventry but if you add in Nuneaton, Kenilworth, Rugby, Bedworth, Leamington, Warwick etc I would imagine they are similar or we are bigger. However we have only one club, they have two. They have been way more successful overall than us, hence the bigger crowds. Same with Derby and Stoke smaller towns but more successful overall.
 
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SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Jul 14, 2021
  • #45
blunted said:
Think the population of the city of Nottingham is smaller than the city of Coventry. The wider county is twice that of Coventry but if you add in Nuneaton, Kenilworth, Rugby, Bedworth, Leamington, Warwick etc I would imagine they are similar or we are bigger. However we have only one club, they have two. They have been way more successful overall than us, hence the bigger crowds. Same with Derby and Stoke smaller towns but more successful overall.
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Derby definitely are but Stoke? I’d say we’re on a par. We’ve won a FA Cup to their League Cup, they’ve had more seasons in the top flight but post war about the same.
 

fatso

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  • Jul 14, 2021
  • #46
Around 17000, due mainly to a number of local games against the Likes of Brum, West Brom, Derby, Forest and Stoke.
Maybe a few more if we are in the top half after xmas and pushing for a play off spot.
 

blunted

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  • Jul 14, 2021
  • #47
SlowerThanPlatt said:
Derby definitely are but Stoke? I’d say we’re on a par. We’ve won a FA Cup to their League Cup, they’ve had more seasons in the top flight but post war about the same.
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Stoke sure, meant their recent Prem tenure. Coventry has been punching below its weight in attendances for years. We have an almost identical ABC profile as Leicester but when we were on a par with them, they still got more fans in. Obviously comparing before their recent successes.
 

vow

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  • Jul 14, 2021
  • #48
COV said:
15k would be terrible
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Indeed, I agree but that's my opinion on the average.
 

Paxman II

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  • Jul 14, 2021
  • #49
SAJ said:
Tbf population of Nottingham is roughly twice that of Coventry and I imagine there are more Forest than County fans
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What? Cities
 

slowpoke

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  • Jul 14, 2021
  • #50
Legia Sky Blue said:
Rubbish, you're just showing your ignorance of the geography of Nottingham. The figure you're quoting is the city of Nottingham only, but the conurbation of Nottingham is double that. By your definition Forest wouldn't count as a Nottingham club anyway as their ground is in Rushcliffe and not the City of Nottingham!!
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I ain’t fucking interested in the geography of Nottingham someone said Nottingham had double the population of Coventry which is simply not true go on google and it tells you there’s 5000 difference.Actually go on another site and it has Coventry with 50000 more than Nottingham.
 
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COV

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  • Jul 14, 2021
  • #51
slowpoke said:
I ain’t fucking interested in the geography of Nottingham someone said Nottingham had double the population of Coventry which is simply not true go on google and it tells you there’s 5000 difference.
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It actually is true

800,000 people or so in Nottingham unless you don’t count anyone living outside the city centre
 
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usskyblue

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  • Jul 14, 2021
  • #52
Legia Sky Blue said:
conurbation
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slowpoke

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  • Jul 14, 2021
  • #53
COV said:
It actually is true

800,000 people or so in Nottingham unless you don’t count anyone living outside the city centre
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Well if you go on google and punch in population of Nottingham it comes up 331297 (2019) must of had huge surge of migrants in the last two years.
 
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SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Jul 14, 2021
  • #54
slowpoke said:
Well if you go on google and punch in population of Nottingham it comes up 331297 (2019) must of had huge surge of migrants in the last two years.
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Do you have to punch it in or is it okay to type it too?
 
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Peter Billing Eyes

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  • Jul 15, 2021
  • #55
SAJ said:
Tbf population of Nottingham is roughly twice that of Coventry and I imagine there are more Forest than County fans
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The population of the city doesn’t really equate to support, though. The built up conurbation of Nottingham is larger than Coventry, but the city is actually smaller by about 40,000. People quoting Coventry at 325k aren’t using the latest ONS data - it’s in excess of 370k, now. The catchment area is key, and there are likely a lot more people around Nottinghamshire who support Forest than there are people around Warwickshire supporting Coventry. This wouldn‘t represent a million people though as has been suggested, there are only roughly 830,000 people in Nottinghamshire county which includes the city; and because of boundary bleed to the west of the county, some of those will be Derby fans or follow Notts County (or not follow football at all, or maybe ((but less lilkely than around Cov)) support a prem team).
Coventry also has a far more transient and diverse population that wouldn’t necessarily consider Coventry ‘their city’ and a large Irish community who in the main support Man Utd, Liverpool, Arsenal or Celtic and a large asian community who without generalising too much would likely pick a prem team to follow . Historically, Coventry has one of the most active local Saturday football leagues in the country and this also impacts attendance. Our realistic support has never matched its potential and that is proven when it comes to big matches and away days when fans do turn up in number.
 
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fatso

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  • Jul 15, 2021
  • #56
SlowerThanPlatt said:
Do you have to punch it in or is it okay to type it too?
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skybluesam66

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  • Jul 15, 2021
  • #57
Peter Billing Eyes said:
The population of the city doesn’t really equate to support, though. The built up conurbation of Nottingham is larger than Coventry, but the city is actually smaller by about 40,000. People quoting Coventry at 325k aren’t using the latest ONS data - it’s in excess of 370k, now. The catchment area is key, and there are likely a lot more people around Nottinghamshire who support Forest than there are people around Warwickshire supporting Coventry. This wouldn‘t represent a million people though as has been suggested, there are only roughly 830,000 people in Nottinghamshire county which includes the city; and because of boundary bleed to the west of the county, some of those will be Derby fans or follow Notts County (or not follow football at all, or maybe ((but less lilkely than around Cov)) support a prem team).
Coventry also has a far more transient and diverse population that wouldn’t necessarily consider Coventry ‘their city’ and a large Irish community who in the main support Man Utd, Liverpool, Arsenal or Celtic and a large asian community who without generalising too much would likely pick a prem team to follow . Historically, Coventry has one of the most active local Saturday football leagues in the country and this also impacts attendance. Our realistic support has never matched its potential and that is proven when it comes to big matches and away days when fans do turn up in number.
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the big game thing I thing is a bit of a red herring . Many fans of other clubs, go for the day out, many families go along
Most of these would never consider a Tuesday night game in November V Hull

The higher you rise, you get more of the tourist fans. That is why we should be focussing on the Unis etc, as we could sell tickets at maybe £10 each to Uni students, bump the gates up and potentially turn some of them into long term fans
 
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Peter Billing Eyes

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  • Jul 15, 2021
  • #58
skybluesam66 said:
the big game thing I thing is a bit of a red herring . Many fans of other clubs, go for the day out, many families go along
Most of these would never consider a Tuesday night game in November V Hull

The higher you rise, you get more of the tourist fans. That is why we should be focussing on the Unis etc, as we could sell tickets at maybe £10 each to Uni students, bump the gates up and potentially turn some of them into long term fans
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Read my post again, I mentioned ‘potential’ support, e.g. fans of other clubs and families?
 
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Peter Billing Eyes

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  • Jul 15, 2021
  • #59
skybluesam66 said:
the big game thing I thing is a bit of a red herring . Many fans of other clubs, go for the day out, many families go along
Most of these would never consider a Tuesday night game in November V Hull

The higher you rise, you get more of the tourist fans. That is why we should be focussing on the Unis etc, as we could sell tickets at maybe £10 each to Uni students, bump the gates up and potentially turn some of them into long term fans
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You won’t get long term fans from uni students when Cov and Warwick uni’s have amongst the lowest retention rates for graduates settling in the place they qualified?
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Jul 15, 2021
  • #60
Cranfield Sky Blue said:
Bristol Rovers away, the 3-1 defeat, took some beating as well… for beauty I mean!
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That was utter shite
 

slowpoke

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  • Jul 15, 2021
  • #61
skybluesam66 said:
the big game thing I thing is a bit of a red herring . Many fans of other clubs, go for the day out, many families go along
Most of these would never consider a Tuesday night game in November V Hull

The higher you rise, you get more of the tourist fans. That is why we should be focussing on the Unis etc, as we could sell tickets at maybe £10 each to Uni students, bump the gates up and potentially turn some of them into long term fans
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Don’t disagree with what you say but I doubt there is another club in the country which over the years has made such crass decisions in relation to its ground that has cost regular support from Jimmy Hills all seater, building the new East Stand and it’s restricted views because of posts, the chaotic move to the Ricoh and its car parking issues poor public transport and then Northampton which more than halved our regular support and just when support was improving getting back to double figure regular support sisu impose St. Andrews on us halving the regular support again. Hopefully it can now rebuild again but it will take time We were getting towards 6000 before covid to treble that is a big ask in my opinion.
 

skybluelee

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  • Jul 15, 2021
  • #62
Even if only ST holders and away fans turned up to every game we'd average 13k. 17-18k average sounds reasonable overall. More if we exceeded expectations and made a credible play-off push.
 
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slowpoke

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  • Jul 15, 2021
  • #63
Could do not sure what the ST uptake is at the moment don’t think it’s 10k yet but if we can get 50% on top of the STs with walk up that wouldn’t be too bad to start with then it’s down to how we do.
 

COV

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  • Jul 15, 2021
  • #64
skybluelee said:
Even if only ST holders and away fans turned up to every game we'd average 13k. 17-18k average sounds reasonable overall. More if we exceeded expectations and made a credible play-off push.
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We must be one of the hardest clubs to predict

Doing badly could be 11/12k, go on a run and could be 25k or more

It probably did some real damage that not more fans could get on the bandwagon over the last couple of years
 
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Legia Sky Blue

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  • Jul 15, 2021
  • #65
slowpoke said:
Well if you go on google and punch in population of Nottingham it comes up 331297 (2019) must of had huge surge of migrants in the last two years.
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So do Forest play in Nottingham or not? By your definition they don't!!
 

Gynnsthetonic

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  • Jul 15, 2021
  • #66
Legia Sky Blue said:
So do Forest play in Nottingham or not? By your definition they don't!!
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The play in West Bridgeford which is south of the trent effectively not in the 'City of Nottingham'
There are around 11 other towns which make up Greater Nottingham!
 
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SeaSeeEffCee

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  • Jul 15, 2021
  • #67
Anything less than 20k is pathetic
 

Evo1883

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  • Jul 15, 2021
  • #68
Grendel said:
From memory Leicester were better
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From 1980

Leicester

Coventry
 

Evo1883

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  • Jul 15, 2021
  • #69
60s and 70s
Coventry



Leicster


On average until Leicester were took over we had better support in many seasons
 

COV

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  • Jul 15, 2021
  • #70
Legia Sky Blue said:
So do Forest play in Nottingham or not?
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Depends if they're home or away m8
 
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