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stupot07

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  • Nov 29, 2012
  • #71
ncfcfan said:
Sorry but when I go to Cov matches, and granted it's not every game, he is hardly ever on the teamsheet. Just because it doesn't instantly click like it did with Marlon king and Mcgoldrick that means he gets slung on the bench for eternity. Im sorry but he deserves better and every single club he's been at prior to Coventry would agree.
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But you didn't start him, you didnt teust hik with an extended run in the side, he only got regular game time at Gillingham.

He actually started the 7 games of the season, so was obviously given a chance.
 
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ncfcfan

New Member
  • Nov 29, 2012
  • #72
Come off it. He played the first 4 games of the season really. Scored in the first game of the season. Scored again against blues. So thats 2 in 4. Then gets dropped because Mcgoldrick comes in and has barely played since. Fair?
 
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wingy

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 29, 2012
  • #73
King certainly never hit the ground running ncfcfan..I'm of similar opinion to you when it comes to a run of starts for CM,all his appearances have come in short trunkated spells,my recolection is he scored 2 in 4 form 8 real chances ,then like all of them went off the boil when the manager went.We're messing with him psychologically when he may end up the one we rely on come january.it was the same when he arrived but he was unfit then and subsequently injured so got just a few games at a time .Think we should percevere or were wasting £400k.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Nov 29, 2012
  • #74
Look at Eastwood whenever he had a decent run on the team....
 
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ncfcfan

New Member
  • Nov 29, 2012
  • #75
Nick said:
Look at Eastwood whenever he had a decent run on the team....
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Another half decent player. half decent EXPENSIVE player. Remember he scored on his debut against us. Always gave us trouble did Freddy.
 
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psgm1

Banned
  • Nov 29, 2012
  • #76
Originally Posted by SkyBlue_Taylor

I agree, I think Barton and Fleck, if given more game, will flourish.

You are of course joking aren't you? They will flourish? - At what? Certainly not football. Central midfield role is all about strength flair and leadership and effort. Fleck fails on all counts. I couldn't believe they signed him after his trial game against Hinckley. He was one of the worst if not the worst players on the pitch! The only reason I could see this being a good deal was if Rangers paid cov to take him off their hands.

And how on earth Robins isn't playing Garner I will never know. The lad is hungry, has pace, and most important of all vision. Yet he is being kept out by the likes of Fleck. I'm sure Fleck is a nice guy, but so was my nan - and I wouldn't pick her to play either.

There are an awful lot of questions Robins has been asked and has failed to answer. How can it be argued that he has turned the team around - yet they STILL cannot playfor 90 mins or hold on to a lead? How can it be claimed baker is an inspired choice as skipper, yet say it is a team effort when it comes to DM?

Every time DM has had a relatively poor performance (bar 1 game) cov have either lost outright or lost the lead! If it were 1 game this could be argued, but nearly 20 games? It CANNOT be a coincidence!

Even when they have managed to get points, it has been helped in no small part by generous refs or exceedingly poor performances from the opposing team.

It will be interesting to see if the run of results continue against teams in the upper end of the league. Cov have for the most part got points only from the bottom few clubs. Someone posted a few days ago and said cov are on track for a 14th-15th position. And he is probably about right if they continue this run.

But considering this team is supposedly one of the best teams inj this league on paper - surely 14th 15th is simply not good enough. If its true that the team is valued at around 4-5 mill (SiSU's values so take with a pinch of salt) then it is a pathetic return.

If the form holds on for a month or 2 after DM goes then the call that Robins has turned the team around would almost certainly have merit, but right now, Id say bar for DM - NOTHING has changed since he arrived - they have just played teams even worse - hardly a ringing endorsement!
 

pusbccfc

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 29, 2012
  • #77
I think a Cody on form will bag plenty. Gets into some great positions. Just like the goal he scored when it was disallowed a few weeks back.

I like Norwich. Very nice City, good shopping and friendly people.
I've always said the promotion game a few years back was one of the loudest games I've been to. Immense atmosphere!
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Nov 29, 2012
  • #78
ncfcfan said:
Another half decent player. half decent EXPENSIVE player. Remember he scored on his debut against us. Always gave us trouble did Freddy.
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When he had that decent run I remember he got a hat trick with about 5 or 6 goals in 7 games I think but then another striker got fit and came back in.
 

SkyBlue_Bear83

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 29, 2012
  • #79
Mcdonald would be a disaster as a lone striker
 

Mucca Mad Boys

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 29, 2012
  • #80
psgm1 said:
Originally Posted by SkyBlue_Taylor

I agree, I think Barton and Fleck, if given more game, will flourish.

You are of course joking aren't you? They will flourish? - At what? Certainly not football. Central midfield role is all about strength flair and leadership and effort. Fleck fails on all counts. I couldn't believe they signed him after his trial game against Hinckley. He was one of the worst if not the worst players on the pitch! The only reason I could see this being a good deal was if Rangers paid cov to take him off their hands.

And how on earth Robins isn't playing Garner I will never know. The lad is hungry, has pace, and most important of all vision. Yet he is being kept out by the likes of Fleck. I'm sure Fleck is a nice guy, but so was my nan - and I wouldn't pick her to play either.

There are an awful lot of questions Robins has been asked and has failed to answer. How can it be argued that he has turned the team around - yet they STILL cannot playfor 90 mins or hold on to a lead? How can it be claimed baker is an inspired choice as skipper, yet say it is a team effort when it comes to DM?

Every time DM has had a relatively poor performance (bar 1 game) cov have either lost outright or lost the lead! If it were 1 game this could be argued, but nearly 20 games? It CANNOT be a coincidence!

Even when they have managed to get points, it has been helped in no small part by generous refs or exceedingly poor performances from the opposing team.

It will be interesting to see if the run of results continue against teams in the upper end of the league. Cov have for the most part got points only from the bottom few clubs. Someone posted a few days ago and said cov are on track for a 14th-15th position. And he is probably about right if they continue this run.

But considering this team is supposedly one of the best teams inj this league on paper - surely 14th 15th is simply not good enough. If its true that the team is valued at around 4-5 mill (SiSU's values so take with a pinch of salt) then it is a pathetic return.

If the form holds on for a month or 2 after DM goes then the call that Robins has turned the team around would almost certainly have merit, but right now, Id say bar for DM - NOTHING has changed since he arrived - they have just played teams even worse - hardly a ringing endorsement!
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Says you who don't watch CCFC and think Garner should start?! :facepalm:

P.S your policy of boycotting does more damage than going. At least if you were there, you could voice your opinion
 

stupot07

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 29, 2012
  • #81
ncfcfan said:
Come off it. He played the first 4 games of the season really. Scored in the first game of the season. Scored again against blues. So thats 2 in 4. Then gets dropped because Mcgoldrick comes in and has barely played since. Fair?
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No.

Started v D&R
Started v Yeovil
Started v Sheffield
Started v Bury
Started v Birmingham
Started vs Crewe
Started vs burton
Then on the bench when mcgoldrick came.
 

deanocity3

New Member
  • Nov 29, 2012
  • #82
Mcdonald was pretty poor last season
 

Mucca Mad Boys

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 29, 2012
  • #83
stupot07 said:
No.

Started v D&R
Started v Yeovil
Started v Sheffield
Started v Bury
Started v Birmingham
Started vs Crewe
Started vs burton
Then on the bench when mcgoldrick came.
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BUT, great assist v Sheff U, looked good v Bury (should've scored), good v Brum, Crewe I don't know, I didn't go, but the whole team was poor I hear and v Burton, again, we played poor as a team. Plus, the latter 3 was in the Shaw era so we'll let a fair few players off (in a sense, don't take it too literally) because we have improved as a team.
 

Mucca Mad Boys

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  • Nov 29, 2012
  • #84
deanocity3 said:
Mcdonald was pretty poor last season
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Our bet striker, best games:goals ratio. In fact, better than Nimely and Platt put together last season.

In fairness, he was a lot of the time, our most likely goal scorer, he didn't get great service either.
 

SkyBlue_Bear83

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 29, 2012
  • #85
SkyBlue_Taylor said:
Our bet striker, best games:goals ratio. In fact, better than Nimely and Platt put together last season.

In fairness, he was a lot of the time, our most likely goal scorer, he didn't get great service either.
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Better than Juke?
 

ccfcway

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 29, 2012
  • #86
ncfcfan said:
Also not sure playing 1 up front at home is attacking enough for me! Seems to do the job at the moment though...
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yer agreed

the 2 wins in 10 at home is really working well for a team looking to bounce back at the 1st attempt
 

deanocity3

New Member
  • Nov 29, 2012
  • #87
He needs to lose a bit of weight,he's going the same way as Eastwood did
 

covcity4life

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 29, 2012
  • #88
stupot07 said:
No.

Started v D&R
Started v Yeovil
Started v Sheffield
Started v Bury
Started v Birmingham
Started vs Crewe
Started vs burton
Then on the bench when mcgoldrick came.
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scored in 2 but could have had more,especially vs yoevil

that was in thorns team too,now that we attack more i think he could grab a fair few for us

prefer cmgoldrick though
 

Mucca Mad Boys

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 29, 2012
  • #89
covcity4life said:
scored in 2 but could have had more,especially vs yoevil

that was in thorns team too,now that we attack more i think he could grab a fair few for us

prefer cmgoldrick though
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Who doesn't prefer McG? But will he stay? Doubt it.
 

deanocity3

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  • Nov 29, 2012
  • #90
Mcgoldrick fights to get the ball back,mcdonald doesn't, but they should have a run out together.
 

WillieStanley

New Member
  • Nov 29, 2012
  • #91
It would be great to see them partner up front. He's so frustrating to watch because every time he plays, he looks like he's going to score but more often than not, doesn't.
 

stupot07

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 29, 2012
  • #92
SkyBlue_Taylor said:
Our bet striker, best games:goals ratio. In fact, better than Nimely and Platt put together last season.

In fairness, he was a lot of the time, our most likely goal scorer, he didn't get great service either.
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No juke scored less than 1 in 3 last season. Juke had the best goals to game ratio.
 

stupot07

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 29, 2012
  • #93
SkyBlue_Taylor said:
BUT, great assist v Sheff U, looked good v Bury (should've scored), good v Brum, Crewe I don't know, I didn't go, but the whole team was poor I hear and v Burton, again, we played poor as a team. Plus, the latter 3 was in the Shaw era so we'll let a fair few players off (in a sense, don't take it too literally) because we have improved as a team.
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That was a complete miscontrol which turned into an assist. He played ok vs Bury and yes he should have scored at least 2 including an easy 1-1 he mid hit straight to the keeper.

I don't dislike him, he's ok, but he's not the player we thought he would be and he certainly won't fill the void left by mcgoldrick.
 

stupot07

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 29, 2012
  • #94
covcity4life said:
scored in 2 but could have had more,especially vs yoevil

that was in thorns team too,now that we attack more i think he could grab a fair few for us

prefer cmgoldrick though
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We attack more now, but we pack the midfield with 5 men and play only 1 up front and have looked far more threatening with that formation.
 

Mucca Mad Boys

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 29, 2012
  • #95
stupot07 said:
No juke scored less than 1 in 3 last season. Juke had the best goals to game ratio.
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I didn't class him tbh, because he wasn't our striker from Jan, his goal:game ratio could've went down etc. also, he scored 1-2 pens? Take them away, there's little in it.
 
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Mucca Mad Boys

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 29, 2012
  • #96
stupot07 said:
That was a complete miscontrol which turned into an assist. He played ok vs Bury and yes he should have scored at least 2 including an easy 1-1 he mid hit straight to the keeper.

I don't dislike him, he's ok, but he's not the player we thought he would be and he certainly won't fill the void left by mcgoldrick.
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Nonetheless, it was an assist, a good one.

I'm not going to get into the 'he did/didn't mean it' argument because only he knows it.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 30, 2012
  • #97
pusbccfc said:
I think a Cody on form will bag plenty. Gets into some great positions. Just like the goal he scored when it was disallowed a few weeks back.

I like Norwich. Very nice City, good shopping and friendly people.
I've always said the promotion game a few years back was one of the loudest games I've been to. Immense atmosphere!
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Having been treated like shite there last year I'd beg to differ.
 
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ncfcfan

New Member
  • Nov 30, 2012
  • #98
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Having been treated like shite there last year I'd beg to differ.
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What makes you say that? I've often found us to be really accomodating for away fans
 
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ncfcfan

New Member
  • Nov 30, 2012
  • #99
And about Cody. He was the clubs top scorer in the league before he got dropped. Crazy. Would be surprised if he ever scored again the amount of times his confidence has been bashed.
 

lordsummerisle

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 30, 2012
  • #100
ncfcfan said:
And about Cody. He was the clubs top scorer in the league before he got dropped.
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At the time that was like being the tallest of the seven dwarves, alll very good, but still won't be able to grab you a copy of Razzle from the top shelf.
 
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ncfcfan

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  • Nov 30, 2012
  • #101
lordsummerisle said:
At the time that was like being the tallest of the seven dwarves, alll very good, but still won't be able to grab you a copy of Razzle from the top shelf.
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Duly noted.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Nov 30, 2012
  • #102
ncfcfan said:
What makes you say that? I've often found us to be really accomodating for away fans
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Haha it wasn't football related-the ex lives just outside Norwich and her family aren't a particularly pleasant bunch. Makes Norwich one of my most disliked teams for that reason alone!
 
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ncfcfan

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  • Nov 30, 2012
  • #103
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Haha it wasn't football related-the ex lives just outside Norwich and her family aren't a particularly pleasant bunch. Makes Norwich one of my most disliked teams for that reason alone!
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Haha my bad. It's a shame you feel like that!
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Nov 30, 2012
  • #104
ncfcfan said:
Haha my bad. It's a shame you feel like that!
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That and a good part of my extended family are all based in Ipswich. Doomed from the start
 
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ncfcfan

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  • Nov 30, 2012
  • #105
Brighton Sky Blue said:
That and a good part of my extended family are all based in Ipswich. Doomed from the start
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Ouch. Say no more
 
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