Transfer Rumour 25/26 Summer Transfer Window (27 Viewers)

shmmeee

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I know what you mean. But it gets harder to replace players with quality the higher up we get so naturally will feel like we miss out more.

Doesn’t help that we seem to be shopping in the same market at parachute clubs or those with ridiculously deep pockets.

Wrexham signing Broadhead for £10m may inflate a lot of players values in the eyes of their owners too.

Ive been wondering about this. Genuine wonder. What is the market at various levels? Are there enough championship quality players out there and it’s a matter of finding them or is it quite a limited pool each summer and if you don’t get one of say the top ten then you’re downgrading?

I do think teams seem to get similar targets and there’s a bit of me that wonders if clubs buying the same data product end up with similar results as well.
 

SHUNT31

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Ive been wondering about this. Genuine wonder. What is the market at various levels? Are there enough championship quality players out there and it’s a matter of finding them or is it quite a limited pool each summer and if you don’t get one of say the top ten then you’re downgrading?

I do think teams seem to get similar targets and there’s a bit of me that wonders if clubs buying the same data product end up with similar results as well.
There’s definitely gems to be found but I do think it’s a lot harder now. I also wonder how much clubs are embracing AI as it will definitely play a role in the future.

Data is a massive part of it at all levels. We often say follow the Brighton or Brentford model but the problem is we are not the only ones now as others can also see how good it can be.

I would imagine that most clubs use the same or similar data analytic tools so naturally come up with similar targets.
 

shmmeee

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There’s definitely gems to be found but I do think it’s a lot harder now. I also wonder how much clubs are embracing AI as it will definitely play a role in the future.

Data is a massive part of it at all levels. We often say follow the Brighton or Brentford model but the problem is we are not the only ones now as others can also see how good it can be.

I would imagine that most clubs use the same or similar data analytic tools so naturally come up similar targets.

The trick IMO is to cast a wider net with data but you’re still filtering with human judgement. Id imagine most systems allow for finding similar profile players using ML algorithms but then you’re only ever as good as your data quality and for young players particularly outside the highest level that’s pretty sparse. If we’re just buying a data product and running some basic searches I’d expect us to get the same as everyone else. I wouldn’t be surprised if there’s a data scouting course going around with example searches even.

I’m very data forward but the stats are so limited really that everyone is looking a two or three key metrics per player so I’m not sure how much texture is there to get different results even. And I suppose a lot of it comes from the profile a manager asks for and whether it can be interpreted.

One thing I thought worked well with Badlan was he was clearly ahead of his tim me on finding players with data but we always seemed to get decent human beings which must have been a human filter somewhere in the process.
 

skyblue025

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They got that back in TV money and parachute payments
They got some of it back but also had massive debts from league 1 promotion season and the Championship season. All those players they spent £130 mil on last season will also be Prem wages. They were the opposite of Luton and spunked all their dough trying to stay up but didn't even get close. The debts have to be paid.

Sunderland will be in the same position next season if they don't stay up.
 

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