25/26 January Transfer Window (104 Viewers)

David O'Day

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I don’t think Lampard want his winger’s first priority is covering their WBs when they get forward… Besides, if what you say is true, why has MVE got more assists without Sakamoto than with this season?

Sakamoto is an above average winger in this division so he’d comfortably start for most teams. That said, is he better than Whittaker, Joseph, Azeez or Esse? These are the wingers the team around us have.

Is it a surprise, therefore, that we’ve signed two RW who seem a lot more attacking than Sakamoto?
Who else does Esse play for?
 

Hobo

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While MVE is forward getting the assists, sakamoto covers him, works back, not saying he’s brilliant but always puts a shift in, unlike some, did really well when he came on last night, prob won’t start in front of esse but there’s not many better than saka in this league

One area we have potential in is Rudoni and Esse combining. Both can play wide or drift inside to the 10 role. If they can work together and rotate positions freely during a game that really does give the opposition marking problems. It increases their chances of finding space out wide and the the penalty area.

It’s relatively easy to mark a player who is playing in a fixed role and a fixed position. Once they start rotating and roaming it becomes far more difficult. You either have to pass them on to another defender which is difficult in real time or go man to man. Man to man means you can just walk someone into no mans land and create space for someone else.
 

quinn1971

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One area we have potential in is Rudoni and Esse combining. Both can play wide or drift inside to the 10 role. If they can work together and rotate positions freely during a game that really does give the opposition marking problems. It increases their chances of finding space out wide and the the penalty area.

It’s relatively easy to mark a player who is playing in a fixed role and a fixed position. Once they start rotating and roaming it becomes far more difficult. You either have to pass them on to another defender which is difficult in real time or go man to man. Man to man means you can just walk someone into no mans land and create space for someone else.
The games Esse’s played he drifts all over the place, it’s good he’s got that but gives MVE nightmares, he’s got the game to play anywhere, that flick for wright was class,
 

Hobo

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He was still working on it when he was rehabbing after calf injury although said it was ok now but unless you get surgery Im pretty sure dislocating shoulder again remains a risk. Maybe it’s just where he’s been asked to play but he’s not attacked the box in the same way as last season
They knew the calf injury would put him out for sometime. If he needed an op on his shoulder they would have done it then. They wouldn’t gamble with so much season left or even his future fitness and career, too big an asset to the club.
 

quinn1971

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You wonder what Doug’s thinking, watch us at home and he’s thinking we’ll be fine with what we’ve got, maybe just hoping we’ll turn the away form around, which we could do, surely being this close he’s got to give Lampard a bit more ?
 

Hobo

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The games Esse’s played he drifts all over the place, it’s good he’s got that but gives MVE nightmares, he’s got the game to play anywhere, that flick for wright was class,
But that is where fullbacks and other midfielders need to be less adventurous and switched on. He has gone or pushed on so I need to holdback or I need to drop in behind and cover. I’m not being funny but I could understand that as a 13 or 14 year old footballer.

As a team you need to give your most naturally gifted and creative players as much freedom as possible. Why put them in a straight jacket. For instance Torp can stay deeper and cover, because he ain’t got the legs or pace to get caught up field. He can still do his stuff at corners and free kicks. He can still be a threat on the edge of the box if someone else takes a corner.

It is about maximising players strengths and negating weaknesses.
 

alexccfc99

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If no one leaves we'll be paying them to come into Ryton and train, nothing else. The squad is full now.
Is Dovin registered for the season?

If he has had a setback in his recovery as is believed to be the case can he not be unregistered to open up a slot
 

David O'Day

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Is Dovin registered for the season?

If he has had a setback in his recovery as is believed to be the case can he not be unregistered to open up a slot
Still expected back before end of season, they will want him registered in case he is as if anything happens to Rushworth he is a better bet than Wilson.

It's the time of the window when experienced Championship players such as Bidwell become more attractive to teams looking for numbers and experience.
 

alexccfc99

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Still expected back before end of season, they will want him registered in case he is as if anything happens to Rushworth he is a better bet than Wilson.

It's the time of the window when experienced Championship players such as Bidwell become more attractive to teams looking for numbers and experience.
If he is still not back in training at nearly the beginning of Feb, he will be fit at best for what the last 4 or 5 games? Seems a bit pointless to me
 

David O'Day

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If he is still not back in training at nearly the beginning of Feb, he will be fit at best for what the last 4 or 5 games? Seems a bit pointless to me
Maybe, but as things currently stand it's a risk they are willing to take. If you can have him for those games if need which wiull al be massive games then it's much better to have him than Wilson.

It's a no brainer at the moment as players are likely going to leave.
 

Hobo

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Is Dovin registered for the season?

If he has had a setback in his recovery as is believed to be the case can he not be unregistered to open up a slot

Yes he could be unregistered wth the senior squad but remain registered with the club. He could still play for the under 21’s to rehabilitate after injury but not for the first team this season.

That may suite both parties. But I suppose there is a potential psychological risk with Dovin coming back from such a serious injury. If he is match fit towards end of the season I assume you could loan him out on a short term loan to a none league club.
 

alexccfc99

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Yes he could be unregistered wth the senior squad but remain registered with the club. He could still play for the under 21’s to rehabilitate after injury but not for the first team this season.

That may suite both parties. But I suppose there is a potential psychological risk with Dovin coming back from such a serious injury. If he is match fit towards end of the season I assume you could loan him out on a short term loan to a none league club.
A goalie of Dovin's calibre is not going to waste his time playing in non-league
 

alexccfc99

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Ideal end to the window would be thanking Bidwell for his service and moving him on to a lower Champ/Upper League 1 club and getting Brau on the next Ryanair flight back to Spain - To be replaced by the elusive centre mid and another Left Back to compete with Dasilva

That is the ideal world, which we do not live in so I shan't get my hopes up
 

Hobo

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A goalie of Dovin's calibre is not going to waste his time playing in non-league
That is like saying he wouldn’t waste his time playing for the under 21 side as part of his rehabilitation. If it aids his recovery and gets him match sharp so he can hit the ground running in pre season next year, he will.
 

alexccfc99

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That is like saying he wouldn’t waste his time playing for the under 21 side as part of his rehabilitation. If it aids his recovery and gets him match sharp so he can hit the ground running in pre season next year, he will.
Mate he is not going to go and play for some nothing club like Solihull Moors or Woking for the sake of it, he has played for the Swedish National side before do you not think he might see himself as a bit above that
 

MacReady

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we could do with a proper old head CB for the rest of the season, it’s not the pace we lack but the positional awareness in defence
 

Ccfcisparks

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Mate he is not going to go and play for some nothing club like Solihull Moors or Woking for the sake of it, he has played for the Swedish National side before do you not think he might see himself as a bit above that
He would just play for the u21's
 

skybluebristol

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That is like saying he wouldn’t waste his time playing for the under 21 side as part of his rehabilitation. If it aids his recovery and gets him match sharp so he can hit the ground running in pre season next year, he will.
There’s not a chance in hell that Dovin plays non-league. It’s a completely different game down there, and not worth the risk either. Far better just playing for the u21s
 

quinn1971

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But that is where fullbacks and other midfielders need to be less adventurous and switched on. He has gone or pushed on so I need to holdback or I need to drop in behind and cover. I’m not being funny but I could understand that as a 13 or 14 year old footballer.

As a team you need to give your most naturally gifted and creative players as much freedom as possible. Why put them in a straight jacket. For instance Torp can stay deeper and cover, because he ain’t got the legs or pace to get caught up field. He can still do his stuff at corners and free kicks. He can still be a threat on the edge of the box if someone else takes a corner.

It is about maximising players strengths and negating weaknesses.
Still convinced it’s just “ we’ll score more than you” and we’ll keep playing that way, but you’d of thought at this level you’ve got to be able to defend in games that you probably aren’t going to win, still can’t believe after nearly 3 seasons our back 4 play like they don’t even know each other, just don’t get it ?
 

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