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PUSB-We_are_going_up

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  • Jun 2, 2021
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SlowerThanPlatt said:
No he’s on international duty
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How
 

no_loyalty

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  • Jun 2, 2021
  • #1,402
PUSB-We_are_going_up said:
How
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He is in the Curaçao squad for their World Cup qualifier against The British Virgin Islands, on Saturday.
 
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KenilworthSkyBlue

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  • Jun 2, 2021
  • #1,403
Frostie said:
ACL
Will miss start of next season.
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And the rest. He'd be nothing short of extremely lucky to feature before the New Year.
 
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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  • Jun 2, 2021
  • #1,404
KenilworthSkyBlue said:
And the rest. He'd be nothing short of extremely lucky to feature before the New Year.
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According to his Twitter he’s in Rehab atm. Maybe it wasn’t as bad as Jones’ injuries
 
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KenilworthSkyBlue

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  • Jun 2, 2021
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan said:
According to his Twitter he’s in Rehab atm. Maybe it wasn’t as bad as Jones’ injuries
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I suppose there's different grades. You'd think surely we wouldn't touch him if he suffered a grade 3.
 
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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  • Jun 2, 2021
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KenilworthSkyBlue said:
I suppose there's different grades. You'd think surely we wouldn't touch him if he suffered a grade 3.
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No, it’s an odd one. I assume he’ll miss the start of the season - but if it’s say a month. We could probably get by with Reid whilst he gets up to speed and given the glowing report on him it may be worth the risk.

anymore than that, it may be one that just isn’t for us as a club at this time
 
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SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Jun 2, 2021
  • #1,407
Another cracker from Football League World. Alex Gilliead a 25yo winger recently released by Scunthorpe, scored 1 goal last season, though to his credit did win a few awards.

Sources: Huddersfield, Coventry, Sunderland and Ipswich hold talks over move for 25-year-old

Huddersfield Town and Coventry City are offering Alex Gilliead a potential move into the Championship, whilst Sunderland and Ipswich Town are also talking to the departing Scunthorpe United midfielder, a source has exclusively revealed to Football League World.
footballleagueworld.co.uk
 

skybluegod

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  • Jun 2, 2021
  • #1,408
SlowerThanPlatt said:
Another cracker from Football League World. Alex Gilliead a 25yo winger recently released by Scunthorpe, scored 1 goal last season, though to his credit did win a few awards.

Sources: Huddersfield, Coventry, Sunderland and Ipswich hold talks over move for 25-year-old

Huddersfield Town and Coventry City are offering Alex Gilliead a potential move into the Championship, whilst Sunderland and Ipswich Town are also talking to the departing Scunthorpe United midfielder, a source has exclusively revealed to Football League World.
footballleagueworld.co.uk
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Weren't we linked to him a few years back? I think when Mowbray was manager maybe?
 

SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Jun 2, 2021
  • #1,409
skybluegod said:
Weren't we linked to him a few years back? I think when Mowbray was manager maybe?
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Yeah he trained for a few weeks with a view to loan but we sent him back
 
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junglej13

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  • Jun 2, 2021
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SlowerThanPlatt said:
Yeah he trained for a few weeks with a view to loan but we sent him back
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Think he was fast but very raw when we had him on trial.
 
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KenilworthSkyBlue

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  • Jun 2, 2021
  • #1,411
HuckerbyDublinWhelan said:
No, it’s an odd one. I assume he’ll miss the start of the season - but if it’s say a month. We could probably get by with Reid whilst he gets up to speed and given the glowing report on him it may be worth the risk.

anymore than that, it may be one that just isn’t for us as a club at this time
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Yeah it's a bit of a strange one. I wouldn't be at all surprised if we've enquired and perhaps put a feeler out there but I can't see this one happening. Reports expect him to be fit by September. So, I expect he just suffered a bad Grade 2 rather than a complete tear.

Also, according to Cardiff fans it seems he wanted a longer contract than what the club were initially offering and on the same money which is likely to be far above what we'd ever be able to cater for.
 

slowpoke

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  • Jun 2, 2021
  • #1,412
Would be a decent signing good experience and with the young lad Josh Reid as back up too bit of a risk though.
 
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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  • Jun 2, 2021
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KenilworthSkyBlue said:
Yeah it's a bit of a strange one. I wouldn't be at all surprised if we've enquired and perhaps put a feeler out there but I can't see this one happening. Reports expect him to be fit by September. So, I expect he just suffered a bad Grade 2 rather than a complete tear.

Also, according to Cardiff fans it seems he wanted a longer contract than what the club were initially offering and on the same money which is likely to be far above what we'd ever be able to cater for.
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By all accounts we matched them for collins so wage structure might not be as far off.

we may be willing to offer the length he wants aswell, at 30 if the years are offered he may be willing to come down on wage considering his injury
 
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larry_david

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  • Jun 2, 2021
  • #1,414
I'd be disappointed to sign Gilliead - when we trialled him he was an up[ and coming hotshot, now he's got an average record and league 1 and mainly 2. He's not for us at all if we want to continue pushing forward and he will block the route of Bapaga and Tavares who are our own and arguable more exciting players.
 
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slowpoke

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  • Jun 2, 2021
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At thirty plus a two year contract with an option gives the player a bit of security and after 18 months or so can look for a deal elsewhere if they want or we can implement the option good position for the player really.
Could do the same with Matty James too.
 
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fatso

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  • Jun 2, 2021
  • #1,416
But we dont play with wingers
 

SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Jun 2, 2021
  • #1,417
larry_david said:
I'd be disappointed to sign Gilliead - when we trialled him he was an up[ and coming hotshot, now he's got an average record and league 1 and mainly 2. He's not for us at all if we want to continue pushing forward and he will block the route of Bapaga and Tavares who are our own and arguable more exciting players.
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Think it’s his agent putting his name out there, at 25 he would need to make an impact in the first team and wouldn’t think he’s capable of that.
 

SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Jun 2, 2021
  • #1,418
better days said:
I reckon anyone with a pro contract would get into the Curacao squad
Be interesting to see if he regularly makes the starting 11
Seems to have made 3 appearances so far
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Hopefully Hiddink can put a word in to to one of his former employers
 

slowpoke

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  • Jun 2, 2021
  • #1,419
larry_david said:
I'd be disappointed to sign Gilliead - when we trialled him he was an up[ and coming hotshot, now he's got an average record and league 1 and mainly 2. He's not for us at all if we want to continue pushing forward and he will block the route of Bapaga and Tavares who are our own and arguable more exciting players.
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Let’s be honest it’s just paper talk but we know little about him do we, Robins has to build a squad of 25/26 take the three keepers out leaves 22/23 outfield some younger ones like Bapaga might go out on loan so someone like Gilliead would be a cheap option to boost the squad but admittedly unlikely to be the next Tommy Hutchison.
 

Terry_dactyl

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  • Jun 2, 2021
  • #1,420
I’ve seen Joe Bennet play quite a bit. Assuming his injury clears up I think he’d be a quality signing. I think he had a bit of stick this year from Cardiff fans, not sure why. Always looks fairly assured and he doesn’t mess about when comes to tackling.

Edit: I’ll ask my Cardiff scout - father in-law.
 
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KenilworthSkyBlue

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  • Jun 2, 2021
  • #1,421
HuckerbyDublinWhelan said:
By all accounts we matched them for collins so wage structure might not be as far off.

we may be willing to offer the length he wants aswell, at 30 if the years are offered he may be willing to come down on wage considering his injury
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Maybe. Although Cardiff fans did indicate he was one of the bigger earners in the squad. Don't forget he achieved promotion with them to the Premier League and therefore would have likely received a significant increase on his contact at the time.

Granted he probably wouldn't be able to command the same wage as he was on at Cardiff - certainly not in this climate, but I just can't see him coming down to a level where he'd be willing to cut his wage to the extent where it would be feasible for us to sign him.

Collins would've been on far less than Bennett. So, I think matching Cardiff's offer wasn't exactly beyond the realms of possibility given the wage he would've been on at Luton.
 
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Terry_dactyl

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  • Jun 2, 2021
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Terry_dactyl said:
I’ve seen Joe Bennet play quite a bit. Assuming his injury clears up I think he’d be a quality signing. I think he had a bit of stick this year from Cardiff fans, not sure why. Always looks fairly assured and he doesn’t mess about when comes to tackling.

Edit: I’ll ask my Cardiff scout - father in-law.
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That scouting mission was quick!

Apparently they offered Bennet a new contract on reduced wages - one of their high earners - and he turned it down.
I would think that pretty much rules us out.
Injury + High wages + age = do one!
 
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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  • Jun 2, 2021
  • #1,423
KenilworthSkyBlue said:
Maybe. Although Cardiff fans did indicate he was one of the bigger earners in the squad. Don't forget he achieved promotion with them to the Premier League and therefore would have likely received a significant increase on his contact at the time.

Granted he probably wouldn't be able to command the same wage as he was on at Cardiff - certainly not in this climate, but I just can't see him coming down to a level where he'd be willing to cut his wage to the extent where it would be feasible for us to sign him.

Collins would've been on far less than Bennett. So, I think matching Cardiff's offer wasn't exactly beyond the realms of possibility given the wage he would've been on at Luton.
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Good point, one thing I will say is that his age and injury will count against him with his wage demands. Probably why were enquiring about him.

if he’s only out until September he maybe worth the risk given its a key position we need to fill
 
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Sky Blue Harry H

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  • Jun 2, 2021
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Terry_dactyl said:
Injury + High wages + age = do one!
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I would think that, as he got injured during negotiations, and was subsequently released, that equation has altered to:

Injury + age = considerably less wages!
 
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Terry_dactyl

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  • Jun 2, 2021
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Sky Blue Harry H said:
I would think that, as he got injured during negotiations, and was subsequently released, that equation has altered to:

Injury + age = considerably less wages!
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Yeah, given that he’s turned down a reduced contract offer, sounds like he thinks he can still get good wages elsewhere.
Tbh I’d just try and get McCallum back!
 
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Sky Blue Harry H

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  • Jun 2, 2021
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Terry_dactyl said:
Yeah, given that he’s turned down a reduced contract offer, sounds like he thinks he can still get good wages elsewhere.
Tbh I’d just try and get McCallum back!
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We'd be daft not to try and get Sam back. He'll only improve, and it gives time for Reid to develop in the meantime.
 
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slowpoke

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  • Jun 2, 2021
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Terry_dactyl said:
That scouting mission was quick!

Apparently they offered Bennet a new contract on reduced wages - one of their high earners - and he turned it down.
I would think that pretty much rules us out.
Injury + High wages + age = do one!
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I think players will have to realise reduced wages when these lot of contracts expire will be the norm. Bennett will have been on a premier league contract.
 
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KenilworthSkyBlue

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  • Jun 2, 2021
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan said:
Good point, one thing I will say is that his age and injury will count against him with his wage demands. Probably why were enquiring about him.

if he’s only out until September he maybe worth the risk given its a key position we need to fill
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It almost certainly will, especially with clubs being far more cautious about what they're spending and on who. Players like Bennett are going to be faced with a pretty significant reality check this summer whereby they'll quickly realise they'll no longer be able to command the same inflated wages from Championship clubs.

But it's still entirely dependent on how much he's willing to reduce his wages to and who's interested in him. I take wage reports with a giant pinch of salt but apparently Bennett is on around £20k per week. So, if that's the case, even if we reduced his wage demands by half we just wouldn't be able to sign him
 
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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  • Jun 2, 2021
  • #1,429
KenilworthSkyBlue said:
It almost certainly will, especially with clubs being far more cautious about what they're spending and on who. Players like Bennett are going to be faced with a pretty significant reality check this summer whereby they'll quickly realise they'll no longer be able to command the same inflated wages from Championship clubs.

But it's still entirely dependent on how much he's willing to reduce his wages to and who's interested in him. I take wage reports with a giant pinch of salt but apparently Bennett is on around £20k per week. So, if that's the case, even if we reduced his wage demands by half we just wouldn't be able to sign him
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I think the club could go up to 15k a week for the right players. Obviously not all around, that on a 3 year deal or even 13k is better than 20k on 1 or 2 years
 

slowpoke

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  • Jun 2, 2021
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I’d think in the future £10k+ a week for players in the championship will be about as good as it gets and let’s be honest that’s pretty good.
 
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Sky Blue Harry H

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  • Jun 2, 2021
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KenilworthSkyBlue said:
But it's still entirely dependent on how much he's willing to reduce his wages to and who's interested in him. I take wage reports with a giant pinch of salt but apparently Bennett is on around £20k per week. So, if that's the case, even if we reduced his wage demands by half we just wouldn't be able to sign him
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Agree - I think that's why we will end up looking at up and coming players, where they receive an increase in salary, rather than 'old heads' who are shopping around for the 'least drop' in wages. I'd much sooner have a young hungry one than picking amongst the bones of a group of players who will be fought over more keenly, due to being out of contract, as clubs look to eke out their budgets. PL loans and foreign signings (those that are allowed) - but for every Hamer, there are two Kastaneers!!
 

Sky Blue Harry H

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  • Jun 2, 2021
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan said:
I think the club could go up to 15k a week for the right players. Obviously not all around, that on a 3 year deal or even 13k is better than 20k on 1 or 2 years
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One 15k player would use up over 4,000 of our ST sales (when you factor in JSBs etc). Scary !
 
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KenilworthSkyBlue

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  • Jun 2, 2021
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan said:
I think the club could go up to 15k a week for the right players. Obviously not all around, that on a 3 year deal or even 13k is better than 20k on 1 or 2 years
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Would they for a 31 year old who's just coming out of an ACL injury? That goes against Robins' and the club's whole transfer ethos.

Granted according to reports we put O'Hare on £10k pw but he's obviously an investment that the club hope to make a significant return on all being well. With Bennett the club wouldn't be able to achieve any ROI on him.

Putting Bennett on between £10-15k pw just wouldn't be feasible and I just can't see Robins be willing to do it even if it was.
 
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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  • Jun 2, 2021
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KenilworthSkyBlue said:
Would they for a 31 year old who's just coming out of an ACL injury? That goes against Robins' and the club's whole transfer ethos.

Granted according to reports we put O'Hare on £10k pw but he's obviously an investment that the club hope to make a significant return on all being well. With Bennett the club wouldn't be able to achieve any ROI on him.

Putting Bennett on between £10-15k pw just wouldn't be feasible and I just can't see Robins be willing to do it even if it was.
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I’ve noticed that we tend to get experienced players if they’re a significant upgrade. Injury aside Bennett would be one of them. 10-15k would be the going rate unfortunately.

that being said, as you’ve rightly pointed out, would it be worth it given his recent injury? That’s up to Robins - we’ve shown in recent years the ACL injuries don’t bother us - I also feel that the big money signing is earmarked for James
 

Mucca Mad Boys

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  • Jun 2, 2021
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SlowerThanPlatt said:
Hopefully Hiddink can put a word in to to one of his former employers
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Back in the day, we all did the Football Manager cheat of adding a new manager to Man City/Chelsea then buying a rubbish player to bolster your own coffers.

We just need Hiddink to do this in real life now...

Danny Ireland, the 50 million pound goalkeeper who never played...
 
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