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Match Thread ⚽️ Cardiff City vs Coventry City Match Thread - Saturday 15th Oct (2 Viewers)

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shmmeee

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  • Oct 15, 2022
  • #666
Brighton Sky Blue said:
I'd be OK with that just don't think he should be able to start immediately after letting his teammates down in a not insignificant way
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Its just cutting our nose off to spite our face though. The drop to Eccles or Allen is huge. And his team mates have had a month to let him know how they feel. Surely they’d prefer the three points?
 
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PVA

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 15, 2022
  • #667
The last time Hamer got suspended he was on the bench for his first game back as a punishment.

You could see Eccles starting based on that and his performance today, but then Hamer will be a lot fresher than Eccles.

Maybe he'll surprise us and give Sheaf a rest!
 

Greggs

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 15, 2022
  • #668
I'll be disgusted if Hamer strolls back into the side, your place should be earned, not gifted.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Oct 15, 2022
  • #669
shmmeee said:
Its just cutting our nose off to spite our face though. The drop to Eccles or Allen is huge. And his team mates have had a month to let him know how they feel. Surely they’d prefer the three points?
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You can also argue he's been out for a long enough time to be a bit too rusty to start. That and it's Sheff U who will be experts at getting under his skin. Bring him on second half sure but I don't want a 5 game ban by half time
 

skybluepm2

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 15, 2022
  • #670
SheafIsGod said:
Robins has lost the plot. We need to get rid of him
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Hard luck. Try again next week. Gimp.

How is your quest for understanding why our fanbase dislikes wasps going? Cracked the code yet?
 
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Frostie

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  • Oct 15, 2022
  • #671
shmmeee said:
The Cardiff commentators speculated that him having to play it made the player active in that phase.
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Yeah, they're wrong. His mere presence isn't enough, he has to actually challenge for it or make some other action which disrupts Fadz's ability to play it. He didn't, Fadz misjudged it.
Brave but correct call by the lino imo.

As above I can only think Madley thinks Fadz hasn't touched it or that it has just inadvertently deflected off him rather than him deliberately playing it.
 
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Seaside-Skyblue

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 15, 2022
  • #672
I think if we had Hamer and O'Hare up until this point in season (Given Hamers missed a few) I'd perhaps be slightly concerned, but the fact we've adapted like we have i.e tightened up in general over the last 5 games or so without them and achieved some good results is what gives me some confidence that we should be ok this season and no reason why we can't achieve similar to last season. When they are back we should in theory improve further. And credit to Robins for adapting. Stay up this season probably needs to be priority still followed by a rebuild in Summer. Like everyone points out though, keeping everyone in January is paramount.

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Hutch11

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  • Oct 15, 2022
  • #673
Just got back , we sang all game and more and the team responded and fully deserved the win
 
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Gynnsthetonic

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  • Oct 15, 2022
  • #674
Greggs said:
I'll be disgusted if Hamer strolls back into the side, your place should be earned, not gifted.
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We've surely got to rotate the squad though.
 

Gibbo

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 15, 2022
  • #675
Five games and only two goals conceded. You should not get relegated on that form if it continues. Robins was forced into what was obvious to all that today notwithstanding the best back three is Doyle - MacFadz-Panzo.

Big leaks of goals have ceased once Hyam went - (dons tin hat)
 
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Jamesimus

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  • Oct 15, 2022
  • #676
SlowerThanPlatt said:
On the decision to substitute Callum Doyle...

“It’s difficult for anyone to come off, let alone in the first half and I honestly thought he was carrying something.

“He’s a young lad learning and if you’re not at the races, and he wasn’t, he was off it a little, it’s not a criticism.
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Only just seen this and posted a thread about it!
 

Tommo1993

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  • Oct 15, 2022
  • #677
Finally home and washed.

Not been Fadz biggest fan this season but thought he was a rock today. Same with Eccles, wasn’t too keen on him playing but he’s a big contender for my MOTM, much better in that role and he was braver than he has been previously. Allen had an alright game, Dabo perhaps had one of his weaker games. Wilson not properly tested.

Today wasn’t going to win over any neutrals, but we had more to offer than them and we deserved to win. Hopefully we can build on it.
 
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pusbccfc

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  • Oct 15, 2022
  • #678
Gibbo said:
Five games and only two goals conceded. You should not get relegated on that form if it continues. Robins was forced into what was obvious to all that today notwithstanding the best back three is Doyle - MacFadz-Panzo.

Big leaks of goals have ceased once Hyam went - (dons tin hat)
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1 goal conceded in 5 and a half matches. Maybe letting Hyam go for £1.5m wasn't that bad after all?
 

mark82

Super Moderator
  • Oct 15, 2022
  • #679
Frostie said:
He was in an offside position at that point but commited no offence. He only becomes active when playing the ball which came off Fadz - it should have stood.
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Yeah, that's not how the offside rule works though.
 
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pusbccfc

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 15, 2022
  • #680
mark82 said:
Yeah, that's not how the offside rule works though.
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Yep. Someone on the Cardiff forum explain the rule and admitted it was offside. A really good decision from the officials.
 
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mark82

Super Moderator
  • Oct 15, 2022
  • #681
Frostie said:
That can be his only interpretation but he clearly means to play it imo.
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He doesn't mean to play it backwards, and it only hits him because he's trying to stop the ball going through. If he'd deliberately passed back to Wilson it's offside, but that isn't what happened.
 

mark82

Super Moderator
  • Oct 15, 2022
  • #682
Was Gyokeres offside for our goal? Looked it on one of the replays I've seen.
 

Frostie

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  • Oct 15, 2022
  • #683
mark82 said:
He doesn't mean to play it backwards, and it only hits him because he's trying to stop the ball going through. If he'd deliberately passed back to Wilson it's offside, but that isn't what happened.
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Irrelevant, he deliberately plays the ball.

 

Londonccfcfan

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  • Oct 15, 2022
  • #684
pusbccfc said:
Palmer's aggression was brilliant. We've needed that.
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Palmer was excellent again.

Hes done so well in every game hes played as far can remember.

Surprised me tbf.
 
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mark82

Super Moderator
  • Oct 15, 2022
  • #685
Frostie said:
Irrelevant, he deliberately plays the ball.

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He didn't deliberately play the ball.
 

Londonccfcfan

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  • Oct 15, 2022
  • #686
Grendel said:
I think he will start Hamer against them
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Rightly so.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Oct 15, 2022
  • #687
Frostie said:
Yeah, they're wrong. His mere presence isn't enough, he has to actually challenge for it or make some other action which disrupts Fadz's ability to play it. He didn't, Fadz misjudged it.
Brave but correct call by the lino imo.

As above I can only think Madley thinks Fadz hasn't touched it or that it has just inadvertently deflected off him rather than him deliberately playing it.
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I don’t know the ins and outs of the law these days, but I can’t see how it’s a separate phase of play TBH. He was offside when the ball came in. But I’m old school and can accept this may not be the current rule.
 
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Londonccfcfan

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  • Oct 15, 2022
  • #688
PVA said:
I don't think anyone has suggested we wouldn't be in the shit if we sold Gyokeres
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Why are we again focussing on negatives after an great win.?

Wheres this line of conversation come from? Let me guess...lol
 

Londonccfcfan

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 15, 2022
  • #689
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Play Hamer and he'll get sent off, don't play him and it looks impotent. If only we had a dynamic central midfielder who wasn't the easiest to wind up in the division
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Lol
 

Londonccfcfan

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 15, 2022
  • #690
skyblu3sk said:
I think we are violently agreeing. Especially on the back of a win today. We do need to be able to rotate but shouldn't be an instant kick out to put Hamer back in.
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Hamer walks back into the team. Hes one the best midfielders of his type in the division. Well done eccles today. Now take take step back to bench.
 
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SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Oct 15, 2022
  • #691
Londonccfcfan said:
Hamer walks back into the team. Hes one the best midfielders of his type in the division. Well done eccles today. Now take take step back to bench.
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The only place he’s been walking recently is off the pitch head in hands
 
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Frostie

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  • Oct 15, 2022
  • #692
mark82 said:
He didn't deliberately play the ball.
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That's the debate.
You said he didn't mean to play it backwards but as mentioned that's not important. Neither is whether he makes proper contact, miscontrols it or whatever he simply has to make a deliberate play for the ball & there's plenty of examples of similar goals that have stood.

It's a very bold decision from Madley, I'm not sure what he thinks Fadz is doing if not trying to play the ball? It's gone in our favour today but I'd be very disappointed if the shoe was on the other foot & Robins agrees:
"We had a bit of luck with the goal that was disallowed. We got away with that."
 
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Ghosty

Member
  • Oct 15, 2022
  • #693
SlowerThanPlatt said:
The only place he’s been walking recently is off the pitch head in hands
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And into the casino
 

Londonccfcfan

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 15, 2022
  • #694
SlowerThanPlatt said:
The only place he’s been walking recently is off the pitch head in hands
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So you think Josh Eccles has taken his place? Lmfao.
 

Frostie

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 15, 2022
  • #695
shmmeee said:
I don’t know the ins and outs of the law these days, but I can’t see how it’s a separate phase of play TBH. He was offside when the ball came in. But I’m old school and can accept this may not be the current rule.
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Current interpretation of it is shit no doubt but yeah, if it's deemed Fadz deliberately plays the ball then the goal should stand.
 

Tommo1993

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 15, 2022
  • #696
Londonccfcfan said:
Hamer walks back into the team. Hes one the best midfielders of his type in the division. Well done eccles today. Now take take step back to bench.
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Other than hothead, what is his type?
 

mark82

Super Moderator
  • Oct 15, 2022
  • #697
Frostie said:
That's the debate.
You said he didn't mean to play it backwards but as mentioned that's not important. Neither is whether he makes proper contact, miscontrols it or whatever he simply has to make a deliberate play for the ball & there's plenty of examples of similar goals that have stood.

It's a very bold decision from Madley, I'm not sure what he thinks Fadz is doing if not trying to play the ball? It's gone in our favour today but I'd be very disappointed if the shoe was on the other foot & Robins agrees:
"We had a bit of luck with the goal that was disallowed. We got away with that."
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I'll have to watch it again.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Oct 15, 2022
  • #698
Frostie said:
That's the debate.
You said he didn't mean to play it backwards but as mentioned that's not important. Neither is whether he makes proper contact, miscontrols it or whatever he simply has to make a deliberate play for the ball & there's plenty of examples of similar goals that have stood.

It's a very bold decision from Madley, I'm not sure what he thinks Fadz is doing if not trying to play the ball? It's gone in our favour today but I'd be very disappointed if the shoe was on the other foot & Robins agrees:
"We had a bit of luck with the goal that was disallowed. We got away with that."
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Unless it’s a save your link says, so you can argue he’s trying to save the ball near the goal, not play it to a team mate.

 

Londonccfcfan

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 15, 2022
  • #699
My concern today is we should have put that game to bed. We had by far the better clear cut chances. Vik on another could have had a hat trick.
 

Hutch11

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 15, 2022
  • #700
Offside or not who gives a shit , we got the decision, we got the 3 pts and we got the croaky voices
 
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