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Both. The legals are pointless and have already done more damage to our club than any benefit that they ever could have hoped to achieve and that damage is still ongoing. Forget what Wasps want. The majority of fans want them dropped and we should be pushing SISU to do it regardless. There's no...

You really are a dumb ass. That would kill our club and barely scratch wasps. Still, you'd get to think you're clever sticking two fingers up to wasps so I guess that's all that counts.

No. That's your way of thinking. The point is that if SISU were serious they'd be driving this forward. The fact is that you and a few others have turned into RFC, hanging onto every SISU sound bite trying to convince yourself and others that they're serious about doing this.

I haven't defended anything you idiot. If we're in partnership with CRFC as you well know we're supposed to be on the BPA there's nothing stopping them getting plans in for the both of us. Even if they don't want to do it we can do it with their permission. I even posted a link earlier that...

If they'd been drawn up they'd be all over the Observer by now. In this war of words we're currently experiencing from all sides they'd be no chance that opportunity would be missed.

There's a lot you don't know so that's hardly surprising.

Absolute bollocks. You don't have to own the land to put in for planning permission. Happens all the time little man. https://www.planningportal.co.uk/info/200126/applications/59/how_to_apply/3

What bollocks. Of course it can. Nothing stopping SISU and CRFC coming up with a plan both financial and building. In fact it would probably help convince Lord Chief Justice Millerchip to transfer the lease if they did come up with a tangible plan that works for both outfits. Also nothing...

So has someone from SISU spoken to the planning dept. then? I'd guess that they'd have to go with some sort of a plan. It's going to be yay big and hold this many people isn't going to get any sort of thoughts and advice. They'd have to talk to them with some outline plans at the least on a...

Said it pretty much from day one but the best way to hurt Wasps is go and see CRFC and give them your money. A successful CRFC is by far the biggest threat Wasps will have.

So people want to deal with SISU? Is that what you're saying? Also, these directors pre SISU that found Higgs impossible to deal with. Are these the same directors that sold the clubs share in ACL that you constantly tell everyone was worthless for millions of pounds?

We already know that the clause at the AEHC means that with SISU as owners nothing would be considered longer than seven years. So the obvious answer (unless you want to play the victim) is come in with an offer based on a seven year commitment. The next thing to do is come clean over this...

OK. Where's the properly prepared project then?

Oh, well if you were told I take it all back. It was clearly a given then. Just one question. If the planners don't see it as a problem where are the plans?

Some people don't want piece talks Otis. They're more interested in shouting at what they perceive to be the problem rather than concentrate on a cure.

OK Dave, let's assume that Kieran is genuine and so is the story he's telling. It still comes down to what I said in my original reply to you. No one wants to deal with SISU, it's time for them to go and the sooner the better. If Kieran's tweets are factually accurate all it's doing is adding to...

Must have been one of the many councils that they were talking to or the environment agency or the highways agency that blocked it. Did the FOI's all confirm these talks? No, I didn't think so. Dave. You seem like an intelligent bloke, do you really buy all this nonsense?

Yeah it had one of those hipster names, Oh what was it called? Oh yeah. Reality.

Ha ha ha. Planning permission. That's a good one Nick. Like it was ever going to get that far.

Block what turn? The turn we were never going to take? No one wants to deal with SISU. They have to go and the sooner the better.